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Three Lions for the win!

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also i'm gonna need help with a respec b4 i can pvp as i need 1 bad and have no idea how to do 1 on the villain side

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np mate. Grim needs to re-do the second respec again anyways. Im not busy tonight if you fancy it?

Max, i would be glad for your stalker to come in

Currently a few of us gather around the arena on a Friday night, I think if a team of villains turned up it could make things fun...

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can't do tonight going out for massive [censored] up for al's bday, am free at weekend or any night next week

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it's big 'Al bday is it? Tie him to a lamp post and write nimmer on his head in lipstick from me will you?

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lol i'll see what i can do mate...

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Alright, so as to try and gather some potential tactics and to try and figure where our strenth will lie, can i just clarify all builds available from players ( preferably only those 35+ )..

atm..

1) Brute ( DC ) - SS/EA, Alex whats yours?
2) Dom - Mind/Nrg ( max whats yours? )
3) Corruptor ( Grim - Ice/Kin, Cryo - Ice/Kin )
4) MM - X whats yours? and same KS, whats yours again?
5) Stalker - Max ( Gutts - ?/? )

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mine is mercs/dark, as my mercs are all ranged im hoping to get group fly after respec so i can just bomb and debuff ppl from range, not sure how it'll work tho, will test it out on test after respec

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also i'm gonna need help with a respec b4 i can pvp as i need 1 bad and have no idea how to do 1 on the villain side

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np mate. Grim needs to re-do the second respec again anyways. Im not busy tonight if you fancy it?

Max, i would be glad for your stalker to come in

Currently a few of us gather around the arena on a Friday night, I think if a team of villains turned up it could make things fun...

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can't do tonight going out for massive [censored] up for al's bday, am free at weekend or any night next week

sigh, i honestly feel the ppl who dont like empaths have never actually teamed with a good empath

on union its pretty much:
Art of War
Three Lions
Eternal Knight Walkers

AoW is the only really big PvP group tho, altho the lions and knight walkers have temed up on occasion to take them to school

also i'm gonna need help with a respec b4 i can pvp as i need 1 bad and have no idea how to do 1 on the villain side

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Illusion by far. They contribute the most even if you are busy healing.
Spectral terror, phantom army and phantasm. They each add something and it wont take your time.

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What he said. With Power Boost from the Primal Forces epic you can even heal more than empathy defenders.

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doesnt power boost have a much shorter recharge than power build up?

i agree with nightbringer, illu/emp all the way, all i wudd do is keep in the air with super invis and heal/buff as well as dropping decoys and spectral terror, the key is being able to heal without being seen

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excellent, all will be welcome.

The nimmer gang eh? well as your volunteering for the team, it would be fitting wouldn't it?

I think mind/nrg will have awesome potential for pvp, holds and detoggles

KS, IIRC could you play Debt Collector? We can try with you and alex as brutes.
Grim as Ice/Kin corruptor
Norton as Mind/Dom
X as MM

Now we need a stalker...

Come on, lets go hammer some heroes!

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nice 1 in terms of stalker i would suggest max powerz as gutts

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If it worked like Hurricane however it would be a blasters best friend. Hell, I'd respec for it.

I don't think giving it the same animation of a defender/storm power is the right thing to do, especially since it's considered 'anti-Stalker'.

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thats not what I meant I was talking graphical as opposed to changing anything in the power, more like the tonrnado effect that can get locked on you, hell they could leave the wind effect as it is and just drop the stupid spinning movement.

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isn't that what the power is supposed to be about tho? spinning arond really fast in a whirlwind to knock enemies back

In my very humble opinion as I don't have much tanking experience I would go either invul/energy or invul/fire, depending on whether u want single target attacks or aoes

its uncle als b-day today so were going down union bar at 6 for a couple of hours (proper [censored] up on fri ) so will be a bit late on tonight for pvp but should be on around 9 or 10

i love tanking but since i5 and 6 my troller can do everything my tank can far more effectively and with far more damage

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i'll be there for some fun this wednesday, all the lions will be back on the internet by next week

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shouldnt you be in uni you nimmer?

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what is this word uni? .... ok looked it up and i think its that place i spend around 1-3hours a week at

i'll be there for some fun this wednesday, all the lions will be back on the internet by next week

was great fun last night, thx for the fights was good practise as well

i'd be up for this although think my mm wud get owned in pentad but wud be interesting to see how it works out

our team is sorted, not sure if we can all make this monday yet, will let u no, looking forward to some good pentad tho

awesome stuff my tanks description is "this street wise hercules answered bonnie tylers desperate cry for help"

will now make my empaths description "this healer answered mr. tanktastics desperate cry for help"

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right i need to respec into something better, too many useless powers imo

what do you guys recon for my kin/elec defender
power mastery(powerbuild up+TF) or psychic(hold, aoe sleep, telekinesis)

and i still have 2 powerslots open
zapp seems silly as i hardly attack(and shouldnt even :P)
aim perhaps?
teleport is obtainable from temp powers
though fly or ss might be handy (already have sj+acro but get immobilized sometimes with no travel power to take me away, so hasten+ss might be handy there)

or should i take up stamina after all, cant recall that i ever ran out of end during the match, cept when i was drained by some nasty kin :P

thanks for the thoughts
-alex hunt-

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i'm no kin pvp expert but as a defender the combo of fly, invis and ss is a very good combo for getting away from scrappers and blappers, with very few ppl having fly u can dominate the sky making it a lot easier to buff ur team, altho with fly stamina is probably gonna be a must. im thinking of ditching ss for leaping but dont no how id cope without hasten. i would suggest with the majority of ur powers being target based aim would be a must. if end is a problem only some of the time u cud pick up conserve power and power build up (imagine how slow the target wud be with power build up and siphon speed )

as i said tho im no expert on pvp kin

the lions apologise for the exit, due to our housemate being a [censored] we are having to change our broadband provider and it disconnected last night instead of this morning, wont be on over weekend either for same reason, thx for some gr8 fights tho was very interesting and gr8 practise, sorry again

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No I wouldnt say empathy has had its day. Just that people woke up that its not a must which is good. Although Im finding an increasing amount of layers not picking them in teams to prove a point. That is what bothers me.

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No defender is a must, but if I had a choice I'd take a good empath ANY day, and twice on Sunday's. A good empath turns a scrapper into a tank and a tank into an indestructable lump of flesh.

If you find yourself in a position where you're not thinking; an empath would be quite useless right about now then in my experience its because the mission you're doing is...

TOO EASY.

I'll never say no to fortitude, a heal or recovery aura and my main is a regen scrapper.

However good empaths are few and far between. A good empath ignores the mobs and focuses on the team, keeping CM sunning on everyone, trying to keep fort running on as many people as possible as well as healing where its needed. the mobs? they're someone else's problem.
How many empaths actually display that atitude?

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i agree completely

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have you seen they do to scrapper my poor mate got one hitted by shadowhunter and one last thing without a empath u will i promise you WILL die horribaly (a tank would help to)

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A kinetics has incresed density which offers 39% res to smashing damage. If the kinetic defender uses siphon power too, you can more than cut the damage to 50%. If you dont have a tank, dont bring an empath (with this setup).
Dont get me wrong, I love empathy in a lot of situation, Im just saying its not very good in this.

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agreed kinetics is amazing for avs, its a lot easier to duo an av with an energy tank and a kin than an energy tank and empath

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Some tanks can...e.g. Stone tanks.

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i'd like to see that....especially on mothem mayhem