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As far as I know all versions have it, it is a pretty basic part of the power. I only have hurricane on a defender so far so I dont know for sure. It would be a big part of the defense package to leave off from the other AT's.

Congrats on taking a storm char. It will be a wild ride on a dark and stormy night

Well that just blows.

So a master mind with storm secondary cant get credit for participation? That is what I am hearing.

I am wondering how well my bot/ff mastermind will do, does force bubble count for 'tagging' them? Or should I just spam repulsion bomb and do nothing else?

That would make fire/kin even more disgusting, or for that matter anyone who took world of confusion. It is a thought though.

It might take me a bit to level up the grav guy. I'll see if hurricane can pick up some casings.

qtf

Storm is all about the debuff. The one buff, o2-boost, is easily skipped.

Fire/storm corrupter would be all about damage and debuff.

As of the last time I played WOW if the buffer leaves the team/raid the buff goes with them. Simple enough.

Basically what WOW does. I havnt played the new expac, as of LK, many of the buffs at max level, when targeting a player also buff everyone in their team. If your 5-maning it thats one cast for each buff. If your raiding one cast for each team. Of course in wow most buffs dont stack, on the other hand 20 min is very short for a buff, most are at 1 hour.

The difference between the single and group buff is the cost of a reagent, which is to say a very trivial amount of gold.

The single target version of those buffs still exist (as I recall 30 min duration) and are useful in case someone gets dispelled or deaded.

I agree with a lot of what you are saying. People come at COH with a lot of differing ideals on what makes for good play. Some enjoy crunching numbers to the point of being "the best" some hate numbers and like pretty graphics, or dont like min/max numbers but do like big damage numbers.

Sadly many people assume that how they like to play the game is the only or 'right' way to play. So far as I am concerned anyone who is enjoying themselves without directly and deliberately interfering with others enjoyment is fine and good.

I speak only to my views and experience. In those experiences Khelds are a viable class to play, if not the min/max poster child. Some wonderful things can be done with both PB and WS characters and they do provide help to a team.

Also in my experience the class was more powerful and balanced when it first hit the streets then now. Some work could be done, like how tanks got more damage, controllers got containment etc.

I am curious, how many of the individuals posting in this thread have a kheld? How many have one at 50? How long has it been since it was played? At what level of slotting is it? And more importantly, how does it's play style mesh with your preferred way to enjoy the game?

For myself:

One PB at 50, last played yesterday.
A few WS levels 1 to 20, on my list to play

My PB is IO'd but not uber efficiently. His slotting hasnt changed much since IO's first came out. It is time for me to mids out a new tri-build and human build for him.

I tend to enjoy complicated and intricate characters, ones that take time to master and once you have done so has flexibility and tricks.

I'd say Symby is my secondary main. My primary being a fire/storm controller, a class that blooms late and has some serious levels of subtlety and raw power.

Of the two there is no question that the controller does far more raw dps and destruction, that does not however make Symby less enjoyable to play.

You dont need too, I agree, some people however do, one reason being that 3d sound is not available in vista/7 and is in XP.

Some older games need to be run in compatibility mode as well.

For the longest time COH wasn't officially vista compatible - if it even is now - so people may have it still set up.

Gona make it more difficult to get on my Heroes. Hmmm, do I want to rotate my PB though all the alignments..... hmmm

I have - he gives you some rikti drones (three I think) as well as a rifle with a number of charges.

It can be fun to pull out the rifle.

How did you get the void gun?

Can I team with you and work on that badge? JK

Maybe some damage dealt to ally badges could be fun though.

Wow. I havnt been attacked by my own pets since.... err... well before ED. One of the early attempts to make controller pets perm would have them sometimes go hostile after a zone/map change.

I would bet your right about the proc... or it could be something else.