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I feel that the pvp changes are extremely unfair to nonfreedom pvp players. That is unless i can call them on the phone and tell them I am going to rv on pinnacle and they have everyone in the office log in and fill the zones since they arent gonna do that they need to find a better way to fix it. it really isin't asking much. I am not asking for an advantage only fairness

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If you PvP on a low pop server and the drops are that rare than no one will have the PvP IO on the low pop server and there will not be any balance issues. I can see the main reason people farmed them in the arena is to sell them for outrageous prices on the market.

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the market is cross server. the point is unless you pvp on fredom you cannot even get a chance for the drop unless it is the first kill of your pvp session. the way the rep timers work is if you kill some one a timer starts where you cannot get rep from that person for 5 minutes. if you kill him again within that 5 minutes that timer resets. and to top that off the guy who got killed has the same timer on him so if he comes back and returns the favor he resets that timer himself.

to explain that better. if i am on a team of 2 fighting another team of 2. lets say i get killed. i got killed but my timer for the person who killed me is set for 5 minutes b4 i can get a chance of a drop.

if you are on a team and a team mate kills some one you share the rep and that starts your timer on that person as well. the rep timer gets reset no matter who does the killing unless you sit in the base solo and wait out the timers. it is a very retarded way to work a rewards system. and unfairly hurts low pop servers.

to further explain my frustration with this going to live. the pvp recipee changes are to prevent farming them by having a second account or friends stand still to get alot of kills very fast and farming the recipees.

the current known ways of doing this was afk farming them 30 minutes at the time in the arena and popping wakies in a pvp zone usually in bloody bay standing by the pill store.

a summation of suggestions made on test were to disable wakies in a pvp zone so they cannot be used at all. this eliminates zone farming all together.(at least makes it more comparable to actual pvp.)

second suggestion was to time how long it takes to go from rez in hospital in rv to get to full health and make it to city hall and use that time as a rep timer for the arena.



there were more suggestions i left out but i feel those 2 would have solved the problems and still allowed low pop servers the ability to have a chance at a drop. as it stands when you only have 3 or 4 people to attack the rep timers eliminate any chance to get a drop. this change is as short sighted a change i have ever seen the devs make to curb farming. and I for one am very angered by this change.

thank for making pvp recipees on small pop servers 100% unobtainable. thanks once again for taking advice from others and myself about alternate ways to stop people from farming them without making them impossible to get unless you pvp on freedom. thank you for putting yet another nail in our pvp coffins on small pop servers.

Or one could just build a shield/ss tank with assault and farm absolutely safe and be at damage ap all by himself all day against 95% of all dev created enemies. I use a shield/fire melee tank and my damage stays around 250% i make up the rest with reds i gain from the killing.

any results on this?

while your here babs lets get some reflections on the issues on the pvp drops please. put a bug in who evers ears needed to give us a little more information. pretty please?

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How can I see this rep counter?

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simple go to a pvp zone and either kill some one or get killed then look at your personal player info under the pvp tab where you can see rep and the player defeat list it will show you who and how long before rep is enabled on them.

odds are you will never receive a recipee in a low population pvp zone. To better describe your chances think of playing the lottery. if you are the very lucky fellow who receives the recipee you will be rich beyond your wildest dreams and you will enjoy your 2billion windfall

Q/r

the simple solution was to disable wakies in a pvp zone. and maybe alter the arena so that kills done in less time than it takes to rez recluses victory and get back to atlas in the middle of the zone doesn't count.

steps to do this.
1 get killed in rv.
2 rez at hospital get back to full health and get to atlas while timing this.
3. adjust rep timer for arena only to this time

4 disable wakies in pvp zones.

this cripples farming them afk considerably and still allows low pop servers to remain unchanged for legitimate pvp

or make it so in a pvp zone wakies cannot be popped. that would have ended it right there without effecting anybody not farming whatsoever.

and the 1 in 20 would only work on freedom. with only kills that allow rep being valid for the drop low population servers are still boned.

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I am absolutely enraged by the change to the pvp recipees. i pvp on pinnacle. issue 13 made pinnacle basically ghost town and only a few of us actually venture into the zones on a regular basis and we fight each other over and over and over. we switch out toons to keep it interesting by what our opponets bring. alot of the time it s 2v2 or 4v4 and we don't earn any rep for most of the night. I am going to come out and say right now that my opinion of these changes are retarded and it makes my opinion of our developers here go down quite considerably. just remove pvp all together if your going to treat us this way.


now that my rant is out of the way a much better solution would be to not allow wakies to be used in a pvp zone. there is no need for a wakie whatsoever to be used in pvp as there are spawning hospitals in zone. a compromise could be lowering the rep timer to the amount of time it takes to get to the hospital and regain full health and make your way back to the middle of the pvp zone.

making all lt's is not an exploit. there are reason to only have lt's. power availability, story lines requiring a raid on an officer convention. plenty of ways this would be used.

Just because the outdoor map was used doesn't make it a farm. just because they were all lt's. you don't have a guy in blue and red with an s on his chest and you don't have some one named man'o'steel or other variant.


nothing i have seen described deserves a complaint being sent to get it pulled. Anyone claiming it needs to be yanked needs to rexamine their priorities.

wow thanks for actually taking time to comment on this. whether you agree with "fixing" it or not at least the information was given

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Would be foolish of haters on your idea to point that out turg.

After all spiders don't have web coming out their hands either.

confirmed bug search castles last post today.

I can't wait to get on a team with 4 or 5 trollers all spamming a different colored rain power so we can all go into instant seizures.

confirmed in the rikti war zone. my 10 year old kept yellin to me.

"Dad,Dad,Dad, come look quick. untill i finally looked and he was right.

the most speed oriented attack to me is shield charge. if you can stand having to hold a shield. not sure if you can do martial arts with shield or not. never looked at that combo to be honest. but what could be more speed oriented than kicking one guy and immediately crossing 30 feet with a shield charge almost instantly.

to me purples are the easiest way to solve end problems on end heavy toons. i dont try to slot all of a particular set. for instance my fire/rad I 2 slotted unbreakables across 4 diff hold powers added in 2 more from another set and poof max of 5 set bonuses of 4%recovery.

however i do have one purpled out build with max recharge on a toon that is my cadillac. i love running tf's with him if im gonna do a tf.

and if you hit enough paragon police villain side you can get the new doughnut shield with and without sprinkles. the color you make the sprinkles adjusts defense and the shield color adjusts shield charges damage.

i do not beleive this is an exploit it is more a delay of damage being applied to targets targeted within range of the attack at the time of firing it off. your joustiung motion and their chasing motion happens before the damage is applied. works with sands of mu and ripper also

masterminds die quicker they don't get the pvp resistanve buff and have few hitpoints

i understood the purple drops could drop off any enemy that cons level 50.

for example a level 50 minion could

a level 49 lt could
a 48 boss
a 47 elite boss
a 46 av.

that was what i seem to remember about this. if i am wrong i apologize in advance.