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This thread is kind of refreshing as there seems to be an assumption amongst some people that you're not a tank unless you're some kind of bloody mob shepherd. I don't know how many times I've seen a tank gather way more aggro than the team can handle and everyone ends up on the floor. Being honest, I've been guilty of it myself in the past, but it's usually with friends late a night and alcohol has played it's part .

Generally I only herd when I really need to get a spawn or two away from some others to avoid aggro overspill, and I usually precede the "I'm herding" statement with "we got a nuke ready?" Herding is just another possible tactic, attempting to herd constantly is stupid.

An inv tank should be able to go toe-to-toe with most AVs with a little support, Mother Mayhem takes a little more thought though and in my experience you definitely need the whole team pulling together to avoid multiple deaths. I really don't like playing my tank in the outdoor MM mish, but the hospital one has such a great setting I'll happily do it any time.

I reckon you can still tank anything in the right team and almost anything can be soloed.

Come on, let's face it Rikti aren't exactly the toughest opponent for any decently built tank, and with decent support they're cannon fodder. We wouldn't exactly be virtually begging the comms officer to open a portal if they were that tough would we.

And it really never occurred to me not to tank CoT. Sure, they're tougher than a lot of other mobs but that's just a challenge and the number I can cope with just depends on what support I have from the rest of the team.

Now tanking the Mother Mayhem mission, that another issue. Do that the normal way and it's faceplant city guaranteed

I love the inv set, and the ability to go invincible in the face of overwhelming odds, yet bareing in mind how careful you have to be to watch the drop, has provided a lot of those "NOW THIS IS WHAT BEING A SUPERHERO IS ALL ABOUT!!!" moments I've had in the game.

Take care and hope to see back on patrol soon.

Honest question here, what exactly do you mean when you say "tanking for an empath"?

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In short, you cannot be afraid of debt. On no account should you ever run from a mob while your team is still engaging them. Your over-riding duty is to keep your team alive, no matter how suicidal they might be (within reason - sometimes they just deserve it).


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Keeping the team alive is the job of every member of the team, the tank just has a specific way of doing it. If the team plays as a team and the tank tells people to retreat then they'll retreat and allow the tank to attempt a withdrawl themsevles. Everyone stays alive. If someone refuses to aknowledge that the tank has indicated a retreat then that's really their problem not the tank's.

In saying that, the number of times I've had my tank get the [censored] beaten out of it because soemone refused to listen just isn't funny. Despite what I said, it's pretty hard to leave someone in the thick of it, even when they do deserve it.

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This is starting to sound like an obituary :S

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HE'S NOT DEAD? But I sent flowers.

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A story as old as time. Geeks and Cat Girls..

Thanks everybody for the kind words n all that! Not 100%sure when my subs run out. (how do i check?) If i get the chance ill pop in game and say some real goodbyes.

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Check your PlayNC account and it'll tell you.

Ach, and I thought we'd just about managed to convince you to stay a little longer. Gonna be less colourful wih you gone mate, but take care and all the best with whatever you get up to.

And as Ang says, dont be a starnger.

About damned time

Gratz mate, been an absolute pleasure teaming with you over the course and being there on the big occassion ;()

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Sorry, but it's effectively dead for the general public.


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Perfectly understandable reason but the link should probably be removed from the What's on in Union thread I'd guess if it's no longer applicable.

We've acquired a Ventrilo server or I just run a TS server from my PC anyway since we lost access to the other one

Excuse the thread necromancy, but is this server still active? None of the CoH players I know have been able to get on it for some times so just wondered.

Cya Globey...good luck with whatever else you choose to fill your time with.

A couple of days late, but happy birthday mate

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So are we're saying we don't want it fixed or it's not that much of a big deal then?


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Well in that case I'll stop moaning.

Thanks for info though.

So are we're saying we don't want it fixed or it's not that much of a big deal then?

Personally, I want it fixed. Yes, you can work with it and still tank but the current situation is less than ideal. On some teams it's not a problem at all but if the ATs are unbalanced then it can become a problem. "Why have an unbalanced team?" I may be asked, well...depending on who you're teaming with and what they have available that's just the way it turns out now and again. I could respec my tank to put taunt durations in my AoEs but then I have to sacrifice something else and with the aura slotted for taunt duration, and if it's working properly, you simply don't need them.

My gripe here isn't really the difference it makes to tanking it's knowing that it's not WAI and that it's hasn't been for sometime. Now, if Cryptic said they'd increased mob intellect so that bosses and LTs could ignore auras, all the time or some of the time, I'd probably moan but get on with the business of adapting accordingly. Meantime, I'd like it fixed.

One spawn at a time is fairly manageable but when you're on invinvible and a fair proportion of the mobs are LTs or bosses it's damned hard to keep them all locked down effectively.

I'm just hacked off that it hasn't been fixed and that I keep having to warn people in teams that it's bugged, and to be aware of it, because a surprising number of people still don't know.

Yes, it can be worked around but, honestly, why should we have to? Unless there's a lot more to the problem than meets the eye it should have been fixed by now.

And my response after a few nights of the frustrations of being able to tank reasonably effectively but not entirely to my satisfaction? I installed WoW

I'm in the same boat as last night and wont get on until late but if there's a space when I get there I'll join.

Damn, I was going to use those exact same words

Oh well, merry Christmas Gossipers

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Take the monkey fight club, to me its ok villain side but awful hero side but i am just glad its in pocket d where its heroes and villains, sharkhead for villains and nowhere else. Its like watching a cockfight to me. I am nuts i know but i conceptually Roleplay.

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You're not the only one, it sits uneasy with me when I'm hanging out there with a hero. Well, depends on the hero I suppose

The only real problem with tanking is that a lot of people think being able to stand in the middle of a spawn dishing out and taking damage means they're tanking. Aggro management means nothing to a lot of people. Scrapper jumps into spawn; blaster fires at mob; mob isn't taunted; blatser shouts "Rez please".

When I see a blaster trying to tank these days I sometimes pull out my bow and arrow temp power and announce that I'll just do a bit of blasting for a while, or maybe dish out some green insps if they want another defender. The message usually get's through

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:O I'm kinda back! Pinching broadband from the neighbours till I get my own sorted out

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Ahh, I knew that router hacking session we had would provide you with some useful skills

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Fair enough, as long as you had a good reason for Posi!

(Nasty that, at least it was early in the TF.)

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While we're discussing TF's thanks again for the help with Babbage when the TF team I was in were doing Synapse ealrlier today


And on our first attempt at Positron last weekend we had to bail after about three missions because some idiot had himself set at invincible and the mobs were just too high for us (especially with no defender). Yes, I was that idiot.

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i actually still need to do this on my lvl 50 elec/elec blaster Mega Amp (as i never bothered trying when i was in the lvl range) so could i join?

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I just finished it at 3AM this mornign on my level 50 tank. Boy was it weird playing him at level 15 for that length of time