Aett_Thorn

That was kind of the point of this thread. I didn't want to see a bunch of threads popping up saying things like, "The Devs are looking at Tankers next!"

Even if they could get into your account, it wouldn't do anything to help us diagnose the problem if it's an issue with your computer.

Yeah, I'm sure they can be balanced...just going to be interesting to see how they work out in practice. But yes, it looks like Devices just picked up some good bonuses.

Quite honestly, many of us already knew that the Tanker AT might possibly be the next one to get looked at. It's one of the reasons we made the Consolidated Tanker Improvements thread.

This gives me one concern. The sets with the sustain toggles that don't suppress will be a LOT better off than sets with the click Sustain mechanisms. Because those sustain mechanisms won't be useable under mez. Will need to see how it works out, but it could cause an imbalance in these if the click numbers aren't higher than the toggle ones.

They are the ones who need it, after all. I'm just being greedy.

Please tell me that ALL versions of Chilling Embrace are getting that!

(Yes, I know that won't happen, but I'd be a fool not to ask for it!)

Gotcha...just from the way people were writing it it looked like the power was completely changing. I figured that wasn't the case, but wanted to be clear.

Does Cloaking Device lose it's +Stealth?

I agree.

Also, how do you "grapple" the Kronos Titan? If you were grappling with a tiny clockwork, would you have less damage/range than if you were to grapple with something taller/heavier?


But yeah, the engine can't support a set like this anyways, so it's a pretty moot point.

First two I like...third one I'm not such a fan of. I could see that being VERY annoying since very little in the game has any sort of protection against repel, and you'd have the same sorts of complaints about KB with no way to negate it if you want.

I think it was the Consolidated Tanker Improvements thread that really ended a lot of the fights there. It basically gave everyone a single place to just put any idea they had to improve Tankers. And once we heard back from the Devs that they were looking there for when Tankers got their looking at, I think it really ended a lot of the perceived notion that if we just scream loud enough, the Devs will hear us.

We've basically come up with a lot of ideas for the Devs to explore, but now it's just a waiting game to see when Tankers get a balance pass. I think that most Tankers understand that Stalkers and Blasters are worse off. But once Blasters get their look, Tankers will probably scream for their chance next.

I think the issue is more like this:

Can other ATs solo at base levels? Yes
Can Blasters solo at base levels? Yes

Can other ATs solo at +2/+6 fairly easily? Yes
Can Blasters solo at +2/+6 fairly easily? And the answer becomes very muddled, but generally is a no.


Another AT running on just SOs is likely to be able to run through content at 0/0 difficulty faster than a blaster, but not that much faster. Either that, or their survivability is much higher, allowing them to have less defeats. Basically, reward/time subtracting for defeats is higher for other ATs. However, this may or may not be within the margin of error.

Also, other ATs running at just SO levels might be able to crank up the difficulty to something higher while still being able to go through at speed equivalent to Blasters doing their missions. So, since they are at higher difficulties, they're getting more rewards/time.


Now, we take some mid-high level builds into account. Other ATs may be able to crank up to +2/+6 without a significant investment, and run those missions at a decent clip. Blasters either need more money into them to perform at that level of difficulty, or for the same investment lag significantly behind in rate of advancement.


So, are people saying that Blasters should be able to run at +2/+6? No. What they're saying is that given roughly the same investment in their build, Blasters should be able to run at +2/+6 at a pace similar to, but not necessarily equal to, other ATs.


If Blasters can run with the other ATs at base levels of difficulty, but start to lag behind significantly at higher levels of difficulty, it MAY point to a problem with the difficulty slider, or it MAY point to a problem with the AT. Given that many other ATs can run fine at that level, including ATs with similar defense levels, it seems to point to their being something wrong with Blasters.

Not as much as you'd think. Scrappers/Stalkers/Brutes/Tanks are all mirrored to some extent.

Corruptors/Defenders are definitely mirrored.



But seeing as how that is 6 ATs out of the basic 10, I'd say that if you gave Blasters some more control options, that even if it DID cause them to become mirrored that it wouldn't be a problem.

That's what I'm hoping! Got a good name, great costume, and good backstory. Just hoping the combo isn't terribad.