Another_Fan

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And it gets a 13.9% To Hit Continuously to compensate for it not adding Damage.


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Apparently you haven't read about the recent nerf to targeting drone?

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What they nerfed my targeting drone ?

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Nope, its still 13.9, they nurfed the Epic version. THe Devices version is still the one you know and love.

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Thanks for the update. I am leveling up another Arch/Dev targeting drone + archerys inherent pretty much means no real need to slot extra accuracies in the primary.

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And it gets a 13.9% To Hit Continuously to compensate for it not adding Damage.


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Apparently you haven't read about the recent nerf to targeting drone?

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What they nerfed my targeting drone ?

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Just my opinions:

If you are gaining xp with 0 risk, it's abuse (if you can herd/pull 3 critter groups and drop them all in under 3 minutes with over 50% health/end remaining, I'd call that close enough to 0 risk). This includes door sitting.

If you are gaining levels faster than 1 per hour (beyond level 5), it's abuse.

Doesn't matter if it's a Dev mission or not.

I think that pretty much covers it.
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BTW, OP, saw you on TV, you were cool.

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Thank you for making the counterpoint. Herding 3 spawns an exploit ?? Gaining levels faster than 1/hr after 5 ??

Well that makes every tank /kin combo team an exploit and large teams an exploit

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The devs would be foolish to post exact examples of what they consider exploitative or not. Simply because people will use that to skirt as close to edge as they can without getting caught. Honestly, I don't think you're ever going to get a concrete answer on that.


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Thats just insane.

If the developers aren't going to give guidelines they can hardly expect anyone to follow them. Especially in a game with as much dynamic range as this one and so many bugs

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All this is well and good but I only have one question:

What do I do now to farm efficiently?

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Freaks/Demons/Battlemaiden whatever they ares/romans

Positron
Synapse
Lgtf
ITF


If you want a forum game take a shot everytime positron says something horribly tactless in a post.

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Go to warehouse click glowie

Go to cave destroy object

Go to cave kill everything including that one stuck in the wall so you can't target it.

Go to out door map kill everything and click glowies (Wow a real iconoclast here)

Yep new and innovative for sure.

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Sounds to me like you're bored with the entire game itself, given all missions official or MA based use similar objectives.

For that matter, you're probably bored with MMORPGs in general, given other games also have Go Here Kill These Guys, or Kill X Of These Guys, or Go Here Click This Thing.

New hobby, maybe?

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What an interesting take. My other big hobby is Golf.

Which is knock ball into hole and repeat 8 or 17 times. Followed by have drinks at clubhouse.

What I do in city heroes is see how rapidly and how extremely I can do things. Posi in 1:20 that is interesting, Clockwork vahzilock and the COT are trying to blow up the damn wasn't interesting in the first place.

The market could be interesting to me but its not a very good implementation. There are just too many things missing. While flipping and such is too much a case of ripping off people that got lucky and don't know what they had or what its value is. For some its quite the big deal.

What I am winding around to is that "Story telling" is not the major part of the game for many if not most of the people playing. Oddly enough this echoes eerily of my arguments with market people that couldn't grasp that the market was not the alpha and the omega of the game.

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Oh honestly! What do you think the Mission Architect was built for? As if the Mission Architect provides no mission, story, or new enemy content from 1 to 49?!


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Go to warehouse click glowie

Go to cave destroy object

Go to cave kill everything including that one stuck in the wall so you can't target it.

Go to out door map kill everything and click glowies (Wow a real iconoclast here)

Yep new and innovative for sure.

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I don't like that people can just create easy missions and power level themselves to 50. What's worse is that they can create their own faction that is REALLY weak or ridiculously strong.


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What your neighbors get up to must drive you completely round the bend.

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Just to list the issues I have with the MA -

1. Limited publishing slots. Have to throw away ratings, stars, etc. to publish.

2. Ratings system: Too volatile and open to griefing.

3. Small file size. Not that I want a ton more, but 100k is just a little too restrictive. I'd get along find with about twice that.

4. Limits on objective types (can't lead hostage to WP, can't set a specific boss w/a specific onjective) and bugs (Hostages changing groups, Boss animations not working)

5. Removal of mobs unique maps from the system with no timeline for replacing them (and at least in the case of maps, no announcement that they were even removed).

6. Signal to noise ratio. Trying to get something played a lot without a large SG or Voting Cartel is like winning the lottery.

All in all, the MA is an interesting idea, but with the limits on the system, I'm not sure if it's worth the time.

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The form itself is also horribly limiting.

Someone has said that you should wait till it gets I15s shiny new features. I'd say the feature it really needs is for the devs to start playing straight with the players and stop undoing the work people have done.

To the Homer guy. One classical greek had a lot more than 5000 words and if Homer wanted to he could make up more. He also didnt have someone erasing his memory whenever they got a feather up their rear to do so.

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go see what positron has to say about the MA. It will certainly be enlightening... threats to ban players, destroy their toons, force them to speak to CS just because someone didn't like their arc... gotta love it.

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wow... just wow... seem some cowgirl is upset they closed her farm.

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Apparently contagious.

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Didn't we learn anything from the Winter Lords?

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Feed two people identical stimuli and you get three different responses. Given that since the WLs we have had xp smoothing and patrol xp what the devs took away might not be what you think should be learned

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My point remains, though: Don't expect the masses to love your serious work.

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LOL so true. Everyone seems to forget that Shakespeare's globe had bear baiting and [censored] [Male Chicken] fighting.

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Probably because you can't discuss culture decline without discussing reasoning behind it. That always leads to a discussion about powergaming and farming. This in turn leads to people defending their chosen method of game play.

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By "defending their chosen method of game play", you mean "igoring the discussion in favor of just tossing insults at people who don't think farming is necessarily a good thing", right? Because I've yet to see a one of you actually engage in defending anything. Tossing fecal material at people you disagree with does not consitute "defending your opinion".

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The humor boggles the mind. That anyone could consider disagreement and pointing out the obvious flaws in a position, especially when that position is little more than "I don't like it make them stop" as tossing feces.

Now here is some feces that has been tossed

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Despite what the Farmheads keep saying

all the farking farms

To all you hairballs

because you jerks are ruining the server

"just a game" isn't a reason to piss all over other people.

childish buttheads

governed by go-fever and treasure-lust.


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This has all been tossed by you though.

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So how come, when I'm making the RL analogies, I'm wrong, but when you resort to that most tired and cliched of internet appeals, argumentum ad nazium, it's true and/or funny?

All I did was remark on the speed with which you resorted to it.

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Is that what happened ? My old eyes must be getting worse by the minute. What I saw was someone trying to shutdown a line of discussion by attaching a label to it. Which was exactly one of the tactics used by the propaganda minister.

So I wasn't making a funny just observing that you had become one

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Godwin in four posts, very nice.

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chuckle

Shirer's rise and fall. Its a little long but still definitive. Read it and you might understand why your comment is funny

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Now, I can conceivably achieve my goal of a 50 of each AT. I have a Defender, Controller, and Dominator that are just so bloody slow to play (the Def in particular has spent 4 years in the 10-20 level range), that they aren't fun. I do, however, want to play my Warshade/PB/SoA/Widow the "vanilla" route.



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Its funny but if you have been reading the boards maybe you have seen some of the following.

Q: Is there anyway to respec your powersets while keeping your badges and such ?
A: Yeah its called going to peregrine island, followed by how you have to live with having picked powersets that you didn't like.

Q: Powerset x isn't working out for me
A: X doesn't blossom until you get to level Y and get Z from your secondary
R: I dont have Z in my secondary
A: Go to peregrine.

Q: I'd like to PVP but I have an X/Y
A: Thats gimped for PVP roll a V/W

It seems nobody really liked the answers they were getting.

Go Figure.

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Does anyone know the ratio?


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Just a note there seem to be 2 different ratios. One for non custom critters one for custom critters.

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Cant argue with what you said which at times is the problem. As for the lazy part I wasn't exactly calling the devs lazy per se however it could be perceived as a way of getting around having to produce new content all the while getting paid to have paying subscribers to do it for you.

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Worked for Tom Sawyer. I am surprised that more elements of the publishing business don't make their slush piles available via the internet. Somewhere out there there are people that will pay to read through every bad science fiction story ever sent to analog, every would be Doc Smiths space opera, every would be George O Smiths gadget yarn, well you get the idea.

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Mod08 seems to be closing down a lot of farm related threads in this forum, even though they are directly on topic for discussion about Misson Architect and it's usage, asking in the last post of each one that he lock that we "limit conversations on farming to one of the existing topics."


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It would be nice. Wouldnt hold my breath though. As long as debate tactics are being borrowed from Joeseph Goebels it will be hard to have an inteligent discussion on farming.

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Wow, three replies to me, that certainly struck near a nerve. :P


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Yep the funny bone.

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In my experience, the advantage conferred by rare and ultra-rare IOs only really comes up in high-end PvP, where every percentage point counts. Truly "casual" players aren't going to be competing in that league, any more than I'm going to be driving in the Indy or Daytona 500. IMO, casual players can get by just fine with generic IOs or even SOs, as we did for many years.


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No to the bolded part its just wrong. The advantage comes into play on any character that has them it is incredibly noticeable and has a giant impact.

As to the rest your opinion about what others should shouldn't want can and can't enjoy is duly noted.

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I submit that "casual player" and "purple IO" are not meant to go together.

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O'Rly ?

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The people who played the market to get rich now are paying for their greed. I say things are balancing out just nicely. One could almost call it Karma o.@

-C.A.

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There is so much wrong with this I don't know where to begin.

But I will leave you with this, the people that got rich playing the market for greed were smarter than you in I13, nothing in I14 has changed that.

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Really, more profitable? I didn't see the price of purples inflate (just the common salvage. . .) I just saw their avaliability drop like a rock :/


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In demand pieces are hitting and exceeding the 100 mil mark now.

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And as far as padding stuff out. . .personally I'd rather team and I don't think that should decrease the chance for a purple drop.


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Unless your team is 8 times as fast as the fastest member is solo it decreases potential production.

Pretty happy with it myself. Its made my purple purchases prior to I14 much more valuable. Its made my regular farming much more profitable

Its made it so much easier to IO out new characters that there is no excuse for anyone not to.