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Taken by US, Elec melee is nearly the same damage output with dark melee in PvE. While in PvP is pretty trash.
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To be honest cant see what Cognito is. A jealous guy, a Guru of CoH, or a [censored] talker. You decide. The only problem that somebody has with PLers is that they cant do what they do. Most of them are sad enough to flame PLers because they level faster. Its called 'I'm jealous'. When you guys take a deep deep breath and get a bit of fresh air you might release that Globey did not ask you to pay his subscription, and we dont give a [censored] about your gratz either. TG felt like congratulate him at the forums and he did. Now call the emergency number before you get a heart attack. Pretty bad there is no cure for jealously. You guys are comedy value.
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Where have I said im jealous. Im not. What have I got to be jealous about??? If I wanted a stack full of level 50s its pretty easy, Just PL your way there.
Guru? No idea. I know a fair amount. Never claimed to be a guru.
Trash Talker? I havent claimed to be better than anyone, havent called out anyone to duel.
I also explicitly said I have nothing against PL'ers. I have also explicitly said I have NOTHING against Globey getting a level 50 VEAT. I may not rate is as an acheivement, but theres nothing bad about it. In fact, I explicitly said that I thought people having a go at him on this thread was very poor taste indeed.
I hope that clears up the confusion about what I am. You are welcome to your opinions of me, of course, but if it becomes inflammatory or derogatory, for instance calling me sad or jealous, I suggest you refrain from igniting this thread still further and have it locked (there has allready been one warning).
Personally I think its a good thread - gives me insight into how / why some people play. Its not a veiw I share, but Globey et al have certainly done nothing bad to anyone else, havent insulted anybody, and have a good time playing the game they want to play. Thanks to them for reading this thread and eloquently answering some of the rather tiresome put downs from other folk.
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I cant really believe it. You act 'neutral' but you dont miss the chance to mock by saying 'this is not an achievement to be proud of'. Either say the truth about what you represent or say nothing at all. -
To be honest cant see what Cognito is. A jealous guy, a Guru of CoH, or a [censored] talker. You decide. The only problem that somebody has with PLers is that they cant do what they do. Most of them are sad enough to flame PLers because they level faster. Its called 'I'm jealous'. When you guys take a deep deep breath and get a bit of fresh air you might release that Globey did not ask you to pay his subscription, and we dont give a [censored] about your gratz either. TG felt like congratulate him at the forums and he did. Now call the emergency number before you get a heart attack. Pretty bad there is no cure for jealously. You guys are comedy value.
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My Accuracy from bonus is higher than tower of Eiffel. Energy blast sucks for pvp, powerbuild up and Total focus wont do a [censored] to me. Anytime you wanna test your toons, come RV and ask for me. Dark/en sucks for pvp hands down. Maybe with another attack powerset and that still MAYBE. Also, your fear wont work one me. Plus your darkest night will be like it doesnt exist. At least it has a good GFX effect. Tar patch is laughable, you cant mez me with anything and on another note, i have phase too. Wont do much i am afraid. Your heal is ok, if you can see your target. The only real thing that could save you is maybe darkest night but as noted before its laughable with my accuracy on my stalker. In an emergency i can easily pop phase and drop Darkest night off. Now, energy just plain sucks in pvp. No damage and [censored] animations.
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How come nothing of me does anything to you? lol You know the devs?! :P
Oh and the only reasonable statement you made (about how youd work against my build) was your phase shift, yeah i hate when that happens, but remember you might be held, me and my pet has a hold, 2 holds stacking.
Oh and b4 i knew you were a stalker i doubted i could beat you, lol now im relieved.
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There is no chance you can hold my stalker. Also, there is no chance you could win my stalker. At least with a dark/en.
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But if one of you loses too, id expect the same (id love an apology especially from Zaldor, and Tainted_Greek). Oh and id like to fight in arena, not in zone, arena 1on1 rated matches.
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I dont owe an apology to anyone. There are builds that no matter how good you play it they wont do much in solo pvp. This is your build, dark/en. I dont know the devs but what i said before is true your build wont do much to my em/wp stalker. Sorry if i sounded harsh. -
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Dark/en doesnt own in pvp, infact, its [censored]. Dominator's perma dom wont ever get fixed because it needs effort, cash and IOs to make it happen. That rating you gave to the ATs implies to Solo? Team? Team arena? What?
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Lol you have no idea what youre talking about dude. With the dark miasma i will debuff ur acc so bad that u will miss like %90 of the time. Want numbers? Check this:
Darkest night (toggle debuff) base slotted -%25 acc debuff + -%30 dmg reduction (that means i automatically have the res scrappers have with their shields on, im not even mentioning the def)
Fearsome stare (fear which is very rarely resisted and -%7 acc debuff)
Twilight Grasp ( HIGHEST pbaoe heal in game , with -acc debuff and -regen too, yeah its missable but almost never happens with 2 accs slotted and tactics running)
Petrifiying Gaze (Mag 2 hold)
Tar Patch (-%30 res to you, which makes me hit for %30 more to you)
Shadow Fall (The only team buff that gives PSI resistance and fear too)
Dark Servant (oh and i have a pet too, i cant count the times this fluffy has saved my life in 1on1 pvp, when im held and about to die, he heals me :O, or holds the enemy, and oh it has a darkes night of its own (another -%25 acc) and has a power (not sure about the name) which acc debuffs if ur near him, so i keep staying close to him.
And /energy, yeah yeah its not as "good" as psi maybe, but it has good single target dmg (better than dark and rad) and, knockback, which is quite useful at times.
Oh and whats more i have temp invul, tactics, assault (%12.5 more dmg), conserve power, POWERBUILD UP , and TOTAL FOCUS .
Im recently back to game, after issue 8, so i had no IOs on my lvl50, i thought id suck at pvp, so i wanted to give it a try, i killed a claw/regen scraper , and a plant/firs dom, and easy too.
And b4 issue 8 , ive had lots of solo fights the ONLY guy that has owned me was an ice/ice blaster, (i was out of break frees and he had 2 holds). Other than that i have lost to noone in 1on1 pvp.
Now can you please give the reasons why you think dark/en sucks?! And what u have against this build. Oh and your ign pls too .
My IGN is Sir Cervantes (pm me when u see me online, im always ready for pvp), but i wont log in tillthis thursday, got finals , see you after that ^^
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My Accuracy from bonus is higher than tower of Eiffel. Energy blast sucks for pvp, powerbuild up and Total focus wont do a [censored] to me. Anytime you wanna test your toons, come RV and ask for me. Dark/en sucks for pvp hands down. Maybe with another attack powerset and that still MAYBE. Also, your fear wont work one me. Plus your darkest night will be like it doesnt exist. At least it has a good GFX effect. Tar patch is laughable, you cant mez me with anything and on another note, i have phase too. Wont do much i am afraid. Your heal is ok, if you can see your target. The only real thing that could save you is maybe darkest night but as noted before its laughable with my accuracy on my stalker. In an emergency i can easily pop phase and drop Darkest night off. Now, energy just plain sucks in pvp. No damage and [censored] animations.
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You are joking about peacebringers yeh?
If not bring your peacebringer and I will destroy you repeatedly with any of my scrapper,brute or tanker.
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Ok, ill fight you with my pb (all human) but hes lvl 24 now. Does your scrapper have a hold, 2 heals (1 recharging pretty fast). But still i havent had any pvp experience with this one so i may be wrong.
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You are.
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Shadow Fall (The only team buff that gives PSI resistance and fear too)
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So does mind link.
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Oh and whats more i have temp invul, tactics, assault (%12.5 more dmg), conserve power, POWERBUILD UP , and TOTAL FOCUS .
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Dark/en doesnt own in pvp, infact, its [censored]. Dominator's perma dom wont ever get fixed because it needs effort, cash and IOs to make it happen. That rating you gave to the ATs implies to Solo? Team? Team arena? What?
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Why the vitriol from others? Loads of the congrats to whoever posted in the various forums on their latest 50s are for toons that are powerlevelled.
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i think the negative comments are coming more because the people posting about the 50's are making it sound like a big impressive thing.. they dont think it is imprssive PL'ing a character to 50 then bragging about doing it i guess. personally dont see the point in it at all but if thats how people wanna play doesnt bother me.
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Boasting about this "acheivement" is pretty sad. Critising it is not much better.
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I wasnt critising just pointing out why there was so much negative commenting.... i wont say gratz to this thread but i wont condem them on the forums either. but if others want to it sure makes for an amusing thread!
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Oh I quite agree why people feel inspired to make negative comments. Personally, I would be absolutely ashamed to say I PLd to 50, but thats my personal opinion if "I" was to do it. But it doesnt really need critisism as it dosent hurt anyone else.
However, I quite understand this is absolutely *nothing* to be proud of at all. Quite the opposite IMO. Personally I would have kept quiet about it. I suspect some people have.
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Its a gratz thread, maybe a tongue in cheek one at that, but still a gratz thread.
If people cant just say gratz, why say anything at all?
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Because they are sad enough to mock someone for the ways he use to level up, while in the same these [censored] beg for PL. Everyone can see the irony. -
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Big gratz to our friend TG, for hitting level 50 on his Widow! Gratz man, hope its worthy!
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Well to be honest that was necessary. I am very happy about it and made my day. Now people will roll other toons too other than EM and maybe ill slot my DM again. Woop woop!
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Gratz on this and all the other 50's that i'm sure are close behind.
Can we get some feedback on on how Psi blasters and Veats are handling PvP from you guys pls ? I know you haven't had time to Pimp them out fully yet but early impressions would be great.
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As far as i remember from out last chat in vindicate channel, Phil's psi/em is a really, really, really, really, really, heavy attacker that can 2 shot toons. Me and globe tested his fortunata. He has 49% and 44% defense to melee/range (cant remember which goes where) and a bit lower AoE. I dont know exactly the numbers, but Globe's fortunata managed to hold my WP. It has a uber confuse and a mini-vengeance with faster recharge if i recall correct. It works great in teams and pvp zones. -
Gratz Phil man, ill pay better attention who is near me in the pvp zones now
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i got nothing against there PvP ways its the other stuff both on and off the game
i said my piece and now i leave this thread alone i will take ne sort of movment agaisnt me in a private msg
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So I tried a small bit of PvP last against a friend, he was a WP/SS tank and I was playing my WP/EM. I thought I would do a good show of myself, and I guess since he didn't manage to make my HP bar move despite being level 50 and me 43 could be considered good, but on the other hand neither did I budge his bar.
We wailed on each other for a minute or so and neither managed to hurt the other. I had thought a EM could output damage enough to hurt, but even with hasten and able to do my usual BU + ET + BS + TF + BS + ET I barely dimpled his bar.
Granted, he was running with Tough and Weave. The only difference was that his blue bar was going down while mine stayed at max, but this was probably because of running Tough/weave/FA, I doubt it would've been enough to win.
Does the level difference have any impact in PvP?
Anyway, I'm going to grab Tough soon-ish, but I'm pondering the use of Weave (I'm a PvEr btw, but these forums are so dead that any question I make tends to just gather dust instead of replies, so I'm trying my luck in this section).
I kinda doubt those 7% will make a huge difference and was pondering grabbing SoW instead for AVs and the ocasional PvP.
Any thoughts?
My build (I'm 43 atm and haven't bough all the Numinas neither the uniques yet), everything else is slotted. As a PvE tank I focused on +HP and +regen, as well as grabbing all 5% recharge times. Maybe shuffle things and put a LoTG on each defense power?
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1,30
http://www.honourableunited.org.uk/mhd.php
Level 50 Magic Tanker
Primary Power Set: Willpower
Secondary Power Set: Energy Melee
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: High Pain Tolerance -- Numna-Heal:40(A), Numna-Heal/EndRdx:40(3), Numna-Heal/Rchg:40(5), TtmC'tng-ResDam:40(11), TtmC'tng-ResDam/Rchg:40(37), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx:40(40)
Level 1: Barrage -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Fast Healing -- Mrcl-Heal:40(A), Mrcl-Heal/EndRdx:37(3), Mrcl-Heal/Rchg:37(7), Numna-EndRdx/Rchg:40(33), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+:40(42), Numna-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg:40(45)
Level 4: Bone Smasher -- C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:40(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx:40(5), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg:40(15), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:40(25), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:40(27)
Level 6: Air Superiority -- C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx:40(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg:40(7), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:40(11), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:40(15), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:40(25)
Level 8: Rise to the Challenge -- Numna-Heal:30(A), Numna-Heal/EndRdx:40(9), Heal-I:50(9), DarkWD-ToHitDeb:40(43), DarkWD-ToHitDeb/EndRdx:40(43), DarkWD-ToHitdeb/Rchg/EndRdx:40(43)
Level 10: Indomitable Will -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx:40(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg:40(29), DefBuff-I:40(46)
Level 12: Quick Recovery -- Efficacy-EndMod:30(A), Efficacy-Acc/Rchg:40(13), Efficacy-EndMod/EndRdx:40(13), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc/Rchg:40(31), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg:40(42)
Level 14: Fly -- Frbd-Fly:40(A), Frbd-EndRdx:40(40), Flight-I:40(46)
Level 16: Mind Over Body -- TtmC'tng-ResDam:40(A), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx:40(17), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:40(17)
Level 18: Heightened Senses -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg:40(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx:40(19), DefBuff-I:40(19)
Level 20: Whirling Hands -- C'ngBlow-Dmg/EndRdx:40(A), M'Strk-Dmg/Rchg:40(21), M'Strk-Acc/Dmg:40(21), Sciroc-Acc/Rchg:40(23), Sciroc-Dmg/Rchg:40(23)
Level 22: Taunt -- RechRdx-I:40(A)
Level 24: Swift -- Flight-I:40(A)
Level 26: Health -- Mrcl-EndRdx/Rchg:40(A), Mrcl-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg:40(27), RgnTis-Regen+:30(29), Numna-Heal/EndRdx:40(33), Numna-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg:40(37), Mrcl-Heal:40(46)
Level 28: Stamina -- Efficacy-EndMod:40(A), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc/Rchg:40(31), Efficacy-Acc/Rchg:40(31), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg:40(33), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc:40(34), Efficacy-EndMod/EndRdx:40(42)
Level 30: Build Up -- GSFC-ToHit/Rchg:40(A), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx:40(34), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx:40(34)
Level 32: Hasten -- RechRdx-I:40(A), RechRdx-I:40(45), RechRdx-I:40(48)
Level 35: Energy Transfer -- C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx:40(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg:40(36), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:40(36), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:40(36), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:40(37)
Level 38: Total Focus -- C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx:40(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg:40(39), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:40(39), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:40(39), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:40(40)
Level 41: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 44: Tough -- TtmC'tng-ResDam:40(A), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx:40(45), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:40(50)
Level 47: Weave -- S'dpty-Def:40(A), S'dpty-Def/EndRdx:40(48), S'dpty-Def/EndRdx/Rchg:40(48)
Level 49: Focused Accuracy -- AdjTgt-EndRdx/Rchg:40(A), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx:40(50), EndRdx-I:40(50)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Gauntlet
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Assuming that you was doing fightclub with him (toe to toe, not jumping etc) It is very hard to kill a WP brute/tanker/scrapper with a melee toon in a fightclub. That is because they get like 750% regen with 1 target near in pvp. My stalker usually can kill WP as long as they are not near a mob or another character. But debuffs vs WP is a game over. Well, if the debuffer knows how to play.
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It's not a bug - it's a feature. At least the TP'ing out is.
If there's a blind spot in the Villain Base/Hospital, then really it should be covered by another drone for parity with the Hero side.
(although - isn't there still that spot near the Hero Hospital where you can shoot at people coming out of it?
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For me its Rest in peace, Banes. Looks like the devs dont give a damn about the feedback at US forums, and obviously, they dont plan to fix it. Which mega sucks in my opinion. Banes now are the most [censored] SoA.
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proof of being mad nr 1: 2 stalkers at 50
proof of being mad nr 2: no assassins strike
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So what, i got 5.