Triumph's last chance for Really Hard Way


Arcanaville

 

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No one on Triumph has earned the Really Hard Way badge, and it's become clear that it's because of a lack of debuffs and probably Corruptors. So we're putting this out there: could badge hunters with debuffers (preferably Corruptors) transfer over to Triumph to help us out? I know many players have transfer tokens to spare, and with the imminent shutdown, your characters' Supergroup prestige count, literally the only reason to not transfer willy-nilly, soon won't matter.

If you're willing to help a poor small server get the hardest badge in the game, please head to this thread and sign up. The plan is to run next Sunday at 7 EST.


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I would like to share Vanden's request for a bit of help. In return, I'll do whatever I can to help out with other server's attempts.




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if its this sunday coming up I have many support toons that ill bring. Its one badge i never got on my main but its ok i got plenty I will never have em all or be finished.

I am happy to help you guys get it.

I have lots of

cold, sonic, dark support toons. that are all t4 incarnates.

i have coors, defs, trollers, mms, if you want -res

if you want +buffs i have them too.

If you want heals i have them if you want mms i have them too

just post what you think you want and i have them. Also let me know what incarnate powers you want so i can put them together if their not made.


 

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I think the best thing to bring would be Corruptors with a resistance debuff ability. Resistance debuffs naturally because they affect everyone's damage output, and Corruptors because they do decent damage themselves, and because Scourge kicks in at < 50% health, right when Tyrant becomes much harder to hurt.


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Unless I am kidnapped by ring-tailed lemurs that have been bitten by radioactive sharks, I'll bring my +3 fire/rad corrupter.



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I'd be glad to bring a well equipped blaster over to triumph for this attempt.


 

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I just wanted to say thank you for everyone that is offering to help!




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ill bring my sonic sonic def.


t4 -resist.


its sick unless you want something else.

Also i am good for 2 or 3 runs


see you this weekend.


 

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just moved my toon over and parked in DA is that where you start tongiht?


Maybe a little late. Its right around bed time but wife gave me the ok ones kids are down so ill be okay!

i hope that 7 15 will be okay! Try not to start too soon.


 

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We start in DA, yes. As to when we actually start, well, that is up to @Sayaki.




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Thanks to everyone from the other servers that came out to try to help. We didn't quite manage the Really Hard Way, and it was only due to a bug that we didn't get the Hard Way done twice instead of just once. Provided server access is still there, there will be more tries this coming weekend.




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Quote:
Originally Posted by Snow Globe View Post
Thanks to everyone from the other servers that came out to try to help. We didn't quite manage the Really Hard Way, and it was only due to a bug that we didn't get the Hard Way done twice instead of just once. Provided server access is still there, there will be more tries this coming weekend.
let me know what you think is needed.

I brought -res toon


if -regen or dmg is better let us know. Ill be there with bells on.


 

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Quote:
Originally Posted by graystar_blaster View Post
let me know what you think is needed.

I brought -res toon


if -regen or dmg is better let us know. Ill be there with bells on.
As far as I know, Tyrant himself is immune to -regen. I believe its just down to -res and damage for him. So the most valuable things to have are resistance debuffs, damage buffs (especially team-wide and league-wide buffs), Scourge (since the critical moment when you need the most damage comes when Tyrant is at low health), high damage in general, and high damage lore pets.

*The* biggest singular buff you can have are Ultimate (level shift) inspirations. With all the lights up we are -6 to Tyrant. A level shift upward *doubles* your damage and effects on Tyrant because of how steep the purple patch is there: you are at 15% at -6, and 30% at -5. So one shift up doubles your damage and doubles your resistance debuff strength on Tyrant.


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I'll stay on the server for a while, but unfortunately my Internet has been complete garbage lately. I managed to stay on and be useful for the first run (when Tyrant bugged and we "failed" the trial even after killing him) but on the second run I disconnected every two seconds and the client crashed repeatedly, at one point telling me I wasn't VIP.

How bad is it? I time out when selecting a server. If I make it past that, it takes a full minute for my characters list to appear. Then I might time out while zoning. When I finally make it in game, a line I type in Local chat takes up to 15 seconds to appear. With a connection this bad, I am completely useless to the league. I can't get out of the way of Tyrant's lightning strikes and disconnect constantly.

My ISP claims everything is fine in their end and there's nothing they can do. Anytime I sent a petition over connection issues, CS replied that everything is fine in their end and to contact my ISP. So here we are with 67 days until the official servers close, and I can't play at all.


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I've been the cat herder for four successful attempts so far on Justice. I'll toss my observations here in case they are of use.

Forming a league for this badge is more annoying than pretty much any others, because I think you do need to be really picky. I don't like doing that, but in my experience, failing to do so means you don't get the badge.

  • You need to have a vast majority of +3s. Too many +2s will make it unlikely you will succeed, and too many of anything less just makes it worse.
  • You want as much -resistance as you can get. As far as I know, Arcanaville is correct, and Tyrant is completely immune to -regen. Bear this in mind if you're someone who normally spams -regen powers like Lingering Rad or Howling Twilight ; unless they do something else you want, you are losing DPS by spamming them.
  • You want as much DPS as you can get. The lower Tyrant's HP go, the higher his regen gets. At some point, he may match your DPS with his increased regen, and you'll stop making progress. Corruptor Scourge is very useful here, because it effectively increases DPS as his HP falls. No league I formed pulled it off with less than about 1/3 of the league being +3 Corruptors, though some such leagues still failed if there was not also sufficient -res.
The rough priority of things I want on the league so far looks like this.
  • +3 Corruptors who debuff DR
  • +3 Corruptors with decent DPS potential (before Scourge)
  • +3 support folks of other types who can debuff DR
  • +3 support folks of other types who can buff DPS, give +def or heal.
  • +3 high single-target DPS types such as Blasters, Stalkers, Scrappers and Brutes
  • +2 versions of all the above +3 things, in roughly the same order
  • One person you can trust to taunt Tyrant out of the inevitable cluster of Flow Lightning patches that appear at his feat every time he summons it.
  • Badge collector characters who don't fit any of the above criteria
My leagues have usually been around 1/3rd -2/5ths Corrs, about 1/2 other debuffing or DPSing characters, and the rest assorted badge toons who didn't otherwise map to a category. Since that clearly meant not everyone could get the badge, I've run the thing five nights now, with a sixth planned for Thursday night, so people can rotate in their badge characters while others run the support/DPS characters we need (when those aren't the same thing).

One thing I learned that can be very important is trying to keep Tyrant still after each Flow Lightning summons. If he keeps moving around, all your melee DPS and some of the Lore pets will have a hard time delivering DPS on him. I had one attempt change from not making any progress to getting the badge just by asking the tank to sit still as best he could between lightning patches.

On the matter of Ultimates, a +3 with an Ultimate literally delivers twice as much damage as a +3 without an Ultimate (or a +2 with an Ultimate). Everyone has been asked to bring them. While it's not always mandatory to run one for the whole fight, you do have to keep an eye on the timer. Usually I would pop mine when he got to around 80% health, and three would get me through the rest of the fight.

Finally, have folks bring things that can boost damage. I recommend at least T3 rage inspirations. T4s are nice if you have them, but I would save Astrals for Ultimates.

Team inspirations are also nice.

If anyone has holiday Present inspirations that boost damage, many folks don't realize that they boost it for 16 people in a 30' radius, and the boost is scaled by the number of people affected. Basically, popping it while standing in a crowd slams everyone's damage to the cap. I don't think any are for sale on the market, but people may have them stored in base or on characters.

Edit: Based on experimental results reported by other posters, Degenerative Core Interface is useful for this fight, as -maxHP has an effect on time-to-defeat similar to that of -res, but with Degenerative Core being a more effective on time-to-defeat than Reactive Core, just as a function of the specific numbers they gave the respective effects.


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OKay ill stay with my

Resistance Killer (name of toon)


 

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It's cheap and dirty, but Amplifiers are useful and team inspirations (Precise Imbuements and protection imbuements) are greatly helpful. They work for 5 minutes - and still work if you get defeated.

In each of my 3 successful runs, we never had more than 4 corruptors. But, we never had less than a +3 with tier 4 in all (to my knowledge)

People switching out to help is fine, but for something like this, I like for folks to play toons they are well accustomed to. Just because you have a kin - if you haven't played it in years, that may not be a good idea.

Critical areas - backing away from tyrant asap so you can re-engage asap.
And don't get defeated! (easy to say, not so easy to do)


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When is the next run? I need to schedule car maintenance during the weekend. If I get there, I'll be on Avsolut0, cold/rad corr +3. I also have a sonic/cold corr +3. I think the rad corr would be better to bring, but if I am mistaken, please let me know.


 

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Same time as last week... The trial leaders (Sayaki & myself) will be there around 3:30 pm Pacific.




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Tonight Triumph joined the RHW club. Thanks to everyone that made it possible.




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