KD proc on caltrops and bonfire


Deacon_NA

 

Posted

Last time i began a thread about this proc, it nearly escalated into a forum war. hopefully this time around it wont be as bad lol.

Here's a theory. If you use the KB to KD on bonfire and use the chance for KD proc on caltrops would that give you a 60% chance on KD when both are placed?


 

Posted

Not exactly - the two procs would be totally independent of each other. The Bonfire proc would get a 40% chance every 2 seconds or whatever it is, and the Caltrops proc would get a 20% chance every 10 seconds. Those intervals might not necessarily line up, either.


 

Posted

There goes the idea of farming with a robots/traps lol. Thanks for the info


 

Posted

I think it would still work well enough, especially with poison trap going. Will your Robots KB knock the enemies out your patches though? I'm guessing not since the enemies will be +whatever and the bots KB will be reduced.


 

Posted

Are they doing lvl bumping on test?


 

Posted

Quote:
Originally Posted by Neogumbercules View Post
I think it would still work well enough, especially with poison trap going. Will your Robots KB knock the enemies out your patches though? I'm guessing not since the enemies will be +whatever and the bots KB will be reduced.
Swarm missles, the Assault Bot's most egregious kb abuser, has mag 6.232 kb. You're not going to turn that into kd in normal gameplay. It's an easy choice to me, the proc goes into the Assault Bot, not Bonfire.


Global = Hedgefund (or some derivation thereof)

 

Posted

Quote:
Originally Posted by MesmerLune View Post
Are they doing lvl bumping on test?
They never level bump on Test. They occasionally level bump on Beta, but unless they're specifically trying to test high-level content, they won't bump to 50. The last I heard, Beta bumps are currently boosting you to 15.


@Roderick

 

Posted

For reference, I use the KD proc from the Ragnarok set on my DP/Dev and have it slotted into Caltrops. I do find that the proc helps provide additional soft control particularly when I can create a choke point the mobs have to run through to get to me.


@ Dr Gemini

Quote:
�If we would come together and be great role models, it would be amazing to see how the next generation turns out.�

 

Posted

What if both were slotted in Caltrops? Would the percentage stack?


 

Posted

Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperFerret View Post
What if both were slotted in Caltrops? Would the percentage stack?
They wouldn't stack in the sense that it has a 40% chance to activate. It would have a 20% chance to activate, and then another 20% chance after that.


 

Posted

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Grim View Post
They wouldn't stack in the sense that it has a 40% chance to activate. It would have a 20% chance to activate, and then another 20% chance after that.
To further break it down:

4% of the time, both would fire.
16% of the time, OF would fire.
16% of the time, Ragnarok would fire.
64% of the time, nothing would fire.


@Roderick

 

Posted

Quote:
Originally Posted by Roderick View Post
To further break it down:

4% of the time, both would fire.
16% of the time, OF would fire.
16% of the time, Ragnarok would fire.
64% of the time, nothing would fire.
In that 4% when both fire, would they add up to enough to cause a knockback effect, and if they did, what direction would it knock the foes?


TEH WERDZ ON SKREEN HURTZ MI BRANE!

 

Posted

If you're using the Overwhelming Force proc and the ragnorak it'd be literally impossible for any knockback to occur. Because the OF proc automatically changes any KB to KD. By some sort of massive KB debuff I believe.


 

Posted

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Grim View Post
If you're using the Overwhelming Force proc and the ragnorak it'd be literally impossible for any knockback to occur. Because the OF proc automatically changes any KB to KD. By some sort of massive KB debuff I believe.
Actually, Overwhelming Force adds a negative enhancement to the Knockback. And even if it didn't, procs are all flagged "Ignores buffs and enhancements". So both procs will stay at their basic levels. If the two combined add up to more than 0.75, it will be Knockback. Unfortunately, I can't answer the question, since I don't know the magnitude of either proc. If they're both the standard 0.67, then yes, they will combine to KB 4% of the time.


@Roderick