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Originally Posted by Bright_Tempest
I don't normally run a ruptor, but my spouse does. I thought I'd share this with the Corruptor forum because, while I am hard pressed to play one, I respect the AT for what it's capable of and thought everyone here might get some amusement out of it.
So, my dear spouse had not gotten the chance to get the badges from the summer event and asked me to do it for her. I logged on and que'd up on her Fire/Therm. While I waited I took stock at what she'd done with the toon: Snazzy attack chain, check... Capped Def to s/l/e/n and all her positionals... wow... T3 in Alpha, Destiny and Lore... huh... (didn't know she had it in her)... Stackable debuffs... (o.o she knows what those are!?) Two stackable boosts to her attacks? Now, on the summer event, a lot of those things don't matter because of the level cap, but I was very impressed. It explains how she jumps into mobs at +4/x8 and lives to maniacally laugh as she cuts them down with 'moar fiar!'. But, my underestimation of my spousal unit aside, lets get back to the story. So I zone into the event and assess the team, myself (a corruptor), a brute, a MM and a Fender. The casino heist goes well, and I managed to net all of the badges there for her while getting used to her UI before we had to do all-out combat. But, then something happens and as finish up the last AV in the heist, our MM goes *poof* and DCs never to return. There's a bit of discussion among the team, and after a bit I convince them that I've run the arena portion of the event with less than four, so we go for it. The animation begins and before long, we find ourselves toe-to-toe with the Minotaur. The following is the gyst of the conversation in team as we beat on him: Brute: Tedious... Me: Indeed. Fender: Well, what do you expect, we're the three least damaging AT in the game. Me: ... Me: I donno, I think I do pretty well for damage.  Then I notice... I'm the only one popping off heals or shields... (which the brute had kindly reminded me to recharge, again...not a 'ruptor). What's more so I took a look at the 'fender a bit closer and tapped <info> and about cried. Rad/Elec... *sigh* Now at upper levels, isn't the damage bonus cap on Brutes like 700%? I don't consider that anything to shake a stick at. Scourge puts Corruptors on par, if not better than, Blasters considering the debuffs they're punching out. That's not anything to take lightly either. We won, even managed to pull off getting the badges, and I was impressed enough with my better half's toon that I'm seriously considering giving the Corruptor AT another try. So, am I wrong in my thinking? And, as my last question, anyone have a suggestion as to fun combos to play? I've done the different incarnations of dark on different AT so i'd like to try something else, and I'd prefer to run something a bit different than the spouse's Fire/Therm just for the sake of variety. Thanks all, hope you got a chuckle/gasp of disbelief out of the story as well. Tempest |
I suggest nearly everything/Traps, nearly everything except weapon sets/Time, both sets are highly effect both teamed and solo allowing you to use everything or almost everything all by yourself
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I can remember when she first started playing, asking what melt armor and heat exhaustion were, I didn't think I did a good job explaining to her what they were. and I didn't know she was trialing at all, heck, last time I mentioned one to her she wrinkled her nose and said 'bleh'. The sneak. I thought she was far more casual a player than I... but after playing her toon, I now realize the folly of that mistake... hehe.|
Originally Posted by Cheetatron
typed and positional capping aside, Sexist undertones aside(j/k)
I suggest nearly everything/Traps, nearly everything except weapon sets/Time both sets are highly effect both teamed and solo |
I was thinking fire/time... I have a /time troller that's pretty amazing. Of course, I was also thinking /pain... Decisions, decisions...
Tempest
Fire Rad is a lot of fun, too.
Heck, there are way too many good, fun choices..
Of course, since she's all fiery and thermalish, maybe you should go the other way entirely as a counterpoint, and do Ice/Cold or maybe Water/Cold.
OOohh... Water/Cold would give me an excuse to use that nifty new set coming out Tomorrow...
yep, I see that happening. Thanks Madadh!
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Originally Posted by Bright_Tempest
OOohh... Water/Cold would give me an excuse to use that nifty new set coming out Tomorrow...
yep, I see that happening. Thanks Madadh! |
Hope it turns out to be as much fun as it looks like it should be. I'd sure it will be nasty if you and your wife's Corrs ever team up...
Maybe I wasn't paying enough attention, but did somebody non-ironically suggest Brutes were among the least damaging ATs in the game?
As goes Rad/Elec. . .well, my first character in CoH after beta ended was a Rad/Elec and the notion that it deals substandard damage is. . . .
They were joking, right?
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Hardly a joke. I would say Defender Electric Blast is THE lowest damage set in the game.
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Originally Posted by Erratic
Maybe I wasn't paying enough attention, but did somebody non-ironically suggest Brutes were among the least damaging ATs in the game?
As goes Rad/Elec. . .well, my first character in CoH after beta ended was a Rad/Elec and the notion that it deals substandard damage is. . . . They were joking, right? |
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And the other part of the equation is the Radiation Emission powerset. Something about Accelerate Metabolism [PBAoE, Ally +SPD, +Recharge, +Recovery, +DMG +Res(Effects)] and Enervating Field [Toggle: Ranged (Targeted AoE), Foe -DMG, -Res] being at work. Surely adding 25% damage and reducing the target's resistance by 30% means damage is being dealt, more if Assault is had.
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Originally Posted by Zandock
Hardly a joke. I would say Defender Electric Blast is THE lowest damage set in the game.
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You should take a serious look at doing Water/Time. /Time is a MONSTER of a set. You can deck yourself out with capped positionals and perma hasten/chronoshift and just rip things up. I have a fire/time that is right there and it's a lot of fun.|
Originally Posted by Bright_Tempest
OOohh... Water/Cold would give me an excuse to use that nifty new set coming out Tomorrow...
yep, I see that happening. Thanks Madadh! |
I would probably roll up a water/time except I am trying to wean myself from the /time set. 50 Thugs/time 4X Necro/Time 39 Demons/time 34 bots/time and a 50 fire/time corr. It's a heck of a set. Aoe heal+HoT, debuffs, a nice teammate damage/rech buff, huge team defense buff that affects you as well, team +rech buff in chronoshift... it brings a lot to the table. If I didn't have so many /time MMs and my most recent 50 (a couple weeks old) is the fire/time corr I would be rolling it with water blast in the morning... still trying to convince myself to choose a different set, lol.
Oh yeah... and the /time set makes a PERFECT fit for the Intuition alpha. You have both a single hold and a chance to hold in an aoe debuff, a PBAOE tohit debuff, multiple slow effects and the +damage boosts up your blast set. You use every aspect of a very nice alpha in your core abilities.
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I have no doubt that in the right hands Rad/Elec could be fun. It's something that I wouldn't ever run, but the part that I didn't express well enough is that he wasn't doing any of the stuff you would expect a rad/ to be doing... he was blasting. Having started my heroing career with a Rad/Rad 'fender I guess I expect to see the primary used. *shrug* |
Originally Posted by Erratic
And the other part of the equation is the Radiation Emission powerset. Something about Accelerate Metabolism [PBAoE, Ally +SPD, +Recharge, +Recovery, +DMG +Res(Effects)] and Enervating Field [Toggle: Ranged (Targeted AoE), Foe -DMG, -Res] being at work. Surely adding 25% damage and reducing the target's resistance by 30% means damage is being dealt, more if Assault is had.
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So sure, in this instance, he was (and most likely still is) dealing substandard damage because he's not leveraging his Primary. But to be under the mistaken impression that Corruptors and Brutes are low-damage. That's what killed me.
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It's definitely a monster on my Controller (Dark/Time/Earth), it almost feels like CoX to 'easy mode' on +4/x8 maps. I may try one next, but I'm going to start with Water/Cold because I've never done any of the Ice/Cold sets before (and it's an excuse to buy the water blast set |
Originally Posted by Humility
You should take a serious look at doing Water/Time. /Time is a MONSTER of a set. You can deck yourself out with capped positionals and perma hasten/chronoshift and just rip things up. I have a fire/time that is right there and it's a lot of fun.
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If he was ignoring his primary set then yeah. . .one wonders what was going through his head.
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Originally Posted by Bright_Tempest
So sure, in this instance, he was (and most likely still is) dealing substandard damage because he's not leveraging his Primary. But to be under the mistaken impression that Corruptors and Brutes are low-damage. That's what killed me.
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Rad Emission often looks like you're neglecting it when things are going well.
Once the toggles are up on a hard target, you're pretty much free to blast away. Just renew AM and LR every couple of minutes, and then for long stretches all you're doing is blasting.
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Which is why I love the set. >.>
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Originally Posted by Madadh
Rad Emission often looks like you're neglecting it when things are going well.
Once the toggles are up on a hard target, you're pretty much free to blast away. Just renew AM and LR every couple of minutes, and then for long stretches all you're doing is blasting. |
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Which is why I love the set. >.>
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Me too!
"Least damaging" doesn't necessarily mean "low damage". Corruptors don't belong on the list either way, but they're probably middle of the pack, give or take a little based on specific powersets.
If I was forced to make a list of the overall three least damaging ATs in the game I'd probably end up with Defender, Tanker, Controller, with the caveat that anything boosted to damage cap and throwing out debuffs is probably going to manage respectable numbers regardless.
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Lowest damaging is not quite what most ppl are thinking. I've calculated my single target DPS at approx 150 for my Elec/Time corrupter without any buffs/debuffs. For comparison, I have fire at 187 DPS. Even though Elec/ is not that high it's only about 20% less. The 20% damage incr. is probably the amount that fire gets as a secondary effect (not sure if that's right, but it feels about right).|
Originally Posted by Zandock
Hardly a joke. I would say Defender Electric Blast is THE lowest damage set in the game.
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The problem is Voltaic Sentinel, most ppl don't know how to add it's damage into their dps. It will fire off 15 blasts during it's short life cycle (1 min) and add closing in on 1400 pts of damage during that time. This makes it one of the best powers in the game (non aoe) for dpa and end usage against a hard target.
Yes VS can be a pain with aggro and it tends to fire at whatever it wants, but overall it gives very nice damage and makes the Elec/ set a viable option for a player.
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I feel sorry for who's married to you. The way you belittle them in a game, i wonder how it is real life.
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Originally Posted by Bright_Tempest
I don't normally run a ruptor, but my spouse does. I thought I'd share this with the Corruptor forum because, while I am hard pressed to play one, I respect the AT for what it's capable of and thought everyone here might get some amusement out of it.
So, my dear spouse had not gotten the chance to get the badges from the summer event and asked me to do it for her. I logged on and que'd up on her Fire/Therm. While I waited I took stock at what she'd done with the toon: Snazzy attack chain, check... Capped Def to s/l/e/n and all her positionals... wow... T3 in Alpha, Destiny and Lore... huh... (didn't know she had it in her)... Stackable debuffs... (o.o she knows what those are!?) Two stackable boosts to her attacks? Now, on the summer event, a lot of those things don't matter because of the level cap, but I was very impressed. It explains how she jumps into mobs at +4/x8 and lives to maniacally laugh as she cuts them down with 'moar fiar!'. But, my underestimation of my spousal unit aside, lets get back to the story. So I zone into the event and assess the team, myself (a corruptor), a brute, a MM and a Fender. The casino heist goes well, and I managed to net all of the badges there for her while getting used to her UI before we had to do all-out combat. But, then something happens and as finish up the last AV in the heist, our MM goes *poof* and DCs never to return. There's a bit of discussion among the team, and after a bit I convince them that I've run the arena portion of the event with less than four, so we go for it. The animation begins and before long, we find ourselves toe-to-toe with the Minotaur. The following is the gyst of the conversation in team as we beat on him: Brute: Tedious... Me: Indeed. Fender: Well, what do you expect, we're the three least damaging AT in the game. Me: ... Me: I donno, I think I do pretty well for damage. Then I notice... I'm the only one popping off heals or shields... (which the brute had kindly reminded me to recharge, again...not a 'ruptor). What's more so I took a look at the 'fender a bit closer and tapped <info> and about cried. Rad/Elec... *sigh* Now at upper levels, isn't the damage bonus cap on Brutes like 700%? I don't consider that anything to shake a stick at. Scourge puts Corruptors on par, if not better than, Blasters considering the debuffs they're punching out. That's not anything to take lightly either. We won, even managed to pull off getting the badges, and I was impressed enough with my better half's toon that I'm seriously considering giving the Corruptor AT another try. So, am I wrong in my thinking? And, as my last question, anyone have a suggestion as to fun combos to play? I've done the different incarnations of dark on different AT so i'd like to try something else, and I'd prefer to run something a bit different than the spouse's Fire/Therm just for the sake of variety. Thanks all, hope you got a chuckle/gasp of disbelief out of the story as well. Tempest |
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Wow. A necropost to be needlessly insulting. Who hurt you that you would be so neuralgic to spousal ribbing?
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Originally Posted by Pureshadow2
I feel sorry for who's married to you. The way you belittle them in a game, i wonder how it is real life.
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I don't normally run a ruptor, but my spouse does. I thought I'd share this with the Corruptor forum because, while I am hard pressed to play one, I respect the AT for what it's capable of and thought everyone here might get some amusement out of it.
So, my dear spouse had not gotten the chance to get the badges from the summer event and asked me to do it for her. I logged on and que'd up on her Fire/Therm. While I waited I took stock at what she'd done with the toon:
Snazzy attack chain, check...
Capped Def to s/l/e/n and all her positionals... wow...
T3 in Alpha, Destiny and Lore... huh... (didn't know she had it in her)...
Stackable debuffs... (o.o she knows what those are!?)
Two stackable boosts to her attacks?
Now, on the summer event, a lot of those things don't matter because of the level cap, but I was very impressed. It explains how she jumps into mobs at +4/x8 and lives to maniacally laugh as she cuts them down with 'moar fiar!'. But, my underestimation of my spousal unit aside, lets get back to the story.
So I zone into the event and assess the team, myself (a corruptor), a brute, a MM and a Fender. The casino heist goes well, and I managed to net all of the badges there for her while getting used to her UI before we had to do all-out combat. But, then something happens and as finish up the last AV in the heist, our MM goes *poof* and DCs never to return. There's a bit of discussion among the team, and after a bit I convince them that I've run the arena portion of the event with less than four, so we go for it. The animation begins and before long, we find ourselves toe-to-toe with the Minotaur. The following is the gyst of the conversation in team as we beat on him:
Brute: Tedious...
Me: Indeed.
Fender: Well, what do you expect, we're the three least damaging AT in the game.
Me: ...
Me: I donno, I think I do pretty well for damage.
Then I notice... I'm the only one popping off heals or shields... (which the brute had kindly reminded me to recharge, again...not a 'ruptor). What's more so I took a look at the 'fender a bit closer and tapped <info> and about cried. Rad/Elec... *sigh*
Now at upper levels, isn't the damage bonus cap on Brutes like 700%? I don't consider that anything to shake a stick at. Scourge puts Corruptors on par, if not better than, Blasters considering the debuffs they're punching out. That's not anything to take lightly either.
We won, even managed to pull off getting the badges, and I was impressed enough with my better half's toon that I'm seriously considering giving the Corruptor AT another try. So, am I wrong in my thinking?
And, as my last question, anyone have a suggestion as to fun combos to play? I've done the different incarnations of dark on different AT so i'd like to try something else, and I'd prefer to run something a bit different than the spouse's Fire/Therm just for the sake of variety.
Thanks all, hope you got a chuckle/gasp of disbelief out of the story as well.
Tempest