Tyrant's Resistances
No psi resistance, but I bet he has ungodly mez protection. Try dominating someone with /that/.
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Yeeeeeeeeah...two runs down into the 20s, only to have someone "accidentally" kill a Light was...frustrating, to say the least.
Wouldn't you be able to check Tyrant's info window for that info? Also, for the best chances of success you'd just need a bunch of Psi/Rad Corruptors, and they'd have him down within five minutes.
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Yeeeeeeeeah...two runs down into the 20s, only to have someone "accidentally" kill a Light was...frustrating, to say the least.
Wouldn't you be able to check Tyrant's info window for that info? Also, for the best chances of success you'd just need a bunch of Psi/Rad Corruptors, and they'd have him down within five minutes. ![]() |
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I thought Tyrant was immune to -Regen?
Maybe a good mix of Kin (max +damage, +rech, + end and good heals) with Traps (heavy resist debuff, +regen, + def) along with Sonic (more res debuff) and Psi (allegedly unresisted).
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Huh.
Originally Posted by Trickshooter
Unless Tyrant is exempt from typical debuff resistances given to Archvillains (which is entirely possible), he will be functionally immune to the following debuffs:
EndDrain -Recovery -Speed -Recharge -Regen |
Just for reference:
Tyrant's Power List
He could also be using Archvillain's Might and you wouldn't be able to tell through City of Data alone.
Just like we can have "Fire_Blast", "Radiation_Emission", "Power_Mastery", and "Flight" all on one character, Critters can be linked to several "powersets" to use. For example, even though it's not always done this way, many factions are set up with a "Resistance" set that contains any powers that relate to the groups inherent resistances and defenses. Then there are the base minion attack sets, and then typically the higher rank or higher level sets add one or two powers. On their own, it would look like the higher ranks have fewer powers, but what's really happening is that higher rank/level enemies are getting access to multiple sets at once.
A good example of this is the Master Illusionist of the Carnival of Shadows:
As a Carnie, she would get the "powerset" that contains their typical inherent powers.
As an Illusionist, she gets the "powerset" of the Lieutenant-level Illusionists.
And then because she's a Master Illusionist, she gets the "powerset" with the Master Illusionist pets.
EDIT: A good example using an AV/Hero is Infernal. If you wanted to see what powers Primal Earth Infernal has, and you looked him up in the Vindicators, it would look like he has no attacks except summoning demons:
Low-level Infernal powers
High-level Infernal powers
But what actually happens is that Primal Earth Infernal uses the "powerset" originally set up for his Praetorian counterpart and then the "powersets" listed under his Vindicator powers get added to him (depending on level).
EDIT: A good example using an AV/Hero is Infernal. If you wanted to see what powers Primal Earth Infernal has, and you looked him up in the Vindicators, it would look like he has no attacks except summoning demons:
Low-level Infernal powers High-level Infernal powers |
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Is it just me or is his high level List showing his OLD ability from I7 (when he showed up as a combat enemy on Primal Earth for the first time) rather than his revamp in i20 (Mortimer Kal has him summon Demonlings from Demon Summoning rather than the old Behemoth Demons). Is Kal the only place where that was changed?
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Keep in mind that what City of Data shows is essentially a group of powers stored together as "Tyrant_Endgame" the way the 9 powers of, for instance, Fire Blast are stored as "Fire_Blast". That doesn't necessarily mean those are the only powers he gets, though.
He could also be using Archvillain's Might and you wouldn't be able to tell through City of Data alone. Just like we can have "Fire_Blast", "Radiation_Emission", "Power_Mastery", and "Flight" all on one character, Critters can be linked to several "powersets" to use. For example, even though it's not always done this way, many factions are set up with a "Resistance" set that contains any powers that relate to the groups inherent resistances and defenses. Then there are the base minion attack sets, and then typically the higher rank or higher level sets add one or two powers. On their own, it would look like the higher ranks have fewer powers, but what's really happening is that higher rank/level enemies are getting access to multiple sets at once. A good example of this is the Master Illusionist of the Carnival of Shadows: As a Carnie, she would get the "powerset" that contains their typical inherent powers. As an Illusionist, she gets the "powerset" of the Lieutenant-level Illusionists. And then because she's a Master Illusionist, she gets the "powerset" with the Master Illusionist pets. EDIT: A good example using an AV/Hero is Infernal. If you wanted to see what powers Primal Earth Infernal has, and you looked him up in the Vindicators, it would look like he has no attacks except summoning demons: Low-level Infernal powers High-level Infernal powers But what actually happens is that Primal Earth Infernal uses the "powerset" originally set up for his Praetorian counterpart and then the "powersets" listed under his Vindicator powers get added to him (depending on level). |
I just felt that list was the only thing relevant to the topic.
Also, while I haven't specifically checked his full power sets, if he's anything like the rest of the trial AVs, he'll likely have Supervillain Resistance
Don't people still use Power Analyzers? Nab a Mk3 and just LOOK at his resists.
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Power Analyzers don't work in trials, since they're temporary powers (yes, this is really annoying). Banes and Blasters can look using Surveillance, but Banes are relatively rare and not every Blaster takes Munitions Mastery.
I'm aware.
I just felt that list was the only thing relevant to the topic. Also, while I haven't specifically checked his full power sets, if he's anything like the rest of the trial AVs, he'll likely have Supervillain Resistance |
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So this topic came up on a Really Hard Way run last night (which is an entirely
different
story
). The key, we believe (and I have not seen confirmation of this first-hand, I'm just trusting my sources), is that Tyrant has minimal if any resistance to psionic damage. But if that's the case, wouldn't Mother Mayhem have controlled him long ago? I mean sure, she's nutty enough to just go along with what he was doing, but it's hard to believe she'd be satisfied with playing second banana if she could actually be running the whole show herself. (How do we know she didn't? Presumably Tyrant would have snapped out of it after we defeated Mother in Minds of Mayhem.)
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