Fire control is still a possibility for me aswell.
Earth control is indeed a solid set, however it is light on the damage scale as far as control sets go. A few of its powers are location aoe, meaning you have to place the power where you want it (these being Earthquake, Quicksand, and Volcanic Gasses).
One of the nice things about Earth is that you can just about have at least something ready for almost every spawn. Even though i tend to use many of my controls in pairs. Earthquake gets paired with Quicksand, Stalagmites gets paired with Stone Cages. I can usually alternate between these two combos from spawn to spawn. Animated Stone is a pretty decent pet with high durability and some pretty nice damage.
In the cases of adds...you've usually got options to fall back on. In my above example...if I used my stalagmites+stone cages...and we get adds...I can pop QS+EQ...and now they're slowed down, with -def, -tohit, and flopping like beached fish. All that and I STILL have Volcanic Gasses, which is a patch hold that lasts for a good long while and constantly tries to lock stuff down.
With QS, EQ, and VG...since they're location based...you can set these up around corners, and therefor pretty much eliminate alphas.
As far as /Ice goes...eh...it's not too bad, i suppose. Never really got an /icer up very high. Damage on it didn't feel too great to me...but has somewhat nice mitigation effects. Power Boost tho...is a freakin godsend! Bear in mind though that PB won't really do much for several of your powers...namely QS, EQ, and VG...as they spawn their effects as psuedo pets and don't inheret the buff. It is outstanding for stalags and stone cages, though! My earth dommy is earth/earth...so i have PB and pop it everytime i use that nice little pairing. Makes for the ultimate ghetto hold. Things are now stunned for a good while and can't move. Combine this with domination...and they're not gonna be doing anything for the rest of the week.
Slight bit of fair waning though. The immobilze powers and Fossilize have a -knockback that will interfere with earthquake (no more floppy fish)...and teaming up with other controllers/dommies will often make you want to headdesk everytime you toss EQ out there only for the other guy to immobilize everything and pretty much nullify your control.
My dark/dark dominator just hit 23 the other day, so i don't really have enough experience with it to make any real comments about it other than so far is seems to be doing pretty good. I didn't really like it all that much at first, though that might be partly because i'm using /dark assault, but its starting to grow in me.
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Hmm... I think im gonna go with Earth, Earlier on yesterday I teamed with a Icer Dom and his damage wasn't to great like you said what would you pair with Earth other than /Earth, Psi?
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Hmm... I think im gonna go with Earth, Earlier on yesterday I teamed with a Icer Dom and his damage wasn't to great like you said what would you pair with Earth other than /Earth, Psi?
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edit: I should add what I love about it: SMASH! =) I like hitting things really REALLY hard. Earth Assault lets me hit things unbelievably hard. It's great fun.
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It probably depends on how you like to play. I tried /Earth Assault and I was in love with it from the first time I clicked Stone Spears. I have yet to fall out of love with it.
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/Earth just SCREAMS smash! As I've said many times before...My E/E dom Rocky Martin hits like a 10-ton truck. Few things about it tho. /Earth is highly ST oriented with only 2 aoe's in the entire set that have moderate damage. Its also very melee focused with 3 melee range attacks and a pbaoe. That said, the melee attacks hit HARD. Stone Mallet, Heavy Mallet and Seismic Smash are good, solid damage attacks that have nice little side benefits of good mitigation. The 2 mallets have a high chance to put whatever you just whomped on their butt, and Seismic Smash has a garunteed mag 3 hold, so you can even put bosses outta commission with this bad boy in one shot. AND its affected by domination. BONUS!
In fact, most of the powers in /earth have good mitigation by way of kb/kd. Mostly KD. Hurl Boulder is the only power in the set that defaults with knockback, while the rest of the powers only do KB on lower conning mobs. Alot of people skip HB because of the long animation time, low DPA and the hit you take to DPS, blah blah blah. I personally don't care about the little things like that. Nothing says baddass dommy like ripping up a chunk of rock and nailing some poor slob with it. Stone spears is kinda my personal fav of the 2 ranged attacks because i kinda like the animation...plus the knock up it does has the same animation as hitting someone with air superiority. And honestly...the first time you see pop a mob...you'll never stop giggling like an idiot.
IMO...I recommend this set.
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Hello, This is my first Dom after playing many Tanks, Scrappers, Brutes so I wanted to try something different. Either Dark or Earth. I have heard some good and some bad things about Dark Control. I haven't heard much about Earth however but from what I see it seems like a pretty solid set. Btw im pairing it with Ice. So what is better in your opinion and why.
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I got two Earth/ Doms, Earth/Thorns (Thorns rocks the AoEs more than any other secondary) and an Earth/Earth Dom, complete lockdown with SMASH !!!
The thing is I love Dark/ as well. It has a bag full of tricks. It does not specialize in just one thing, it has it all, and the -to hit debuffs means even a little defense goes a long way. The pets are cool too. The Posses is amazing, the MASSIVE AREA FEAR is yummy, the Stun covers a big ol area, and the hold patch that is affected by Domination and the immob has very sold dmg.
As far as secondaries go, I like Dark assault. It has AoEs and St dmg well balanced, not too much of one or the other, and good selection of melee and range. You have a great variety. Dark assault is the ONLY set for Doms that has a hybrid power of powerboost and build up. Nice places for dmg procs in dark assault as well.
I also like Thorns assault even with the redraw. The AoEs and the dmg is very good, and it has some very nice defense debuffs.
Earth Assault is for Doms who want to BRUTE IT UP and feel the earth shake... although a bit light on the AoE, but strong on the ST side.
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Does /Earth play simulary to the Brute version. I had an Earth/Elec Brute that was tons of fun. I sadly deleted him 
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Elec/Earth is a VERY nice combo.
Thanks all for the help I decided to jump on the bandwagon and make a Earth/Earth Dom, He's Lvl 10 now and is a ton of fun. I might ask a few more questions as I progress through Earth on the forums sometimes.
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Nice! I dare say this but my Elec/Earth was almost as fun as my Plant/Fire and Plant/dark!
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/Earth plays A LOT like Stone Melee you have to be careful...you might forget that you're not a brute!
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Really, though, you're right. You play in melee but you don't have the same sort of durability as a true melee AT so you have to be quick on the controls. All the knocking people around sure helps though.
- Ashley
[Rocker Girl (Earth/Earth Dom); Sweet Venom (Plant/Time Ctrl)]
My dom is an Earth dom... I proced out volcanic gases and enjoy it much more
Earth is my favorite "control" set - my dom is an earth/fire/fire and my troller is an earth/kin/stone.
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Ice Control for doms is really only good for Arctic Air and Ice Slick. I enjoy it though as Arctic Air is quite impressive.
Anyway, Earth control is a very control heavy set. It doesn't do great damage but then again I still don't see the point of saying that... Who plays a control set for damage besides Fire? Thats like saying 'well, fire blast doesn't have the holds of ice blast' they play entirely differently. Besides, your assault powerset will do 90% of your damage. Earthquake is the bestest control power of all time. OF ALL TIME. So powerful. Quicksand, Volcanic Gasses etc. Animated Stone is really underestimated. Compared to other pets it's very beefy and actually can tank. Singularity is nigh indestructable but it never draws aggro unlike Poo-man (who I promptly recolor to look like diamonds).
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Hello, This is my first Dom after playing many Tanks, Scrappers, Brutes so I wanted to try something different. Either Dark or Earth. I have heard some good and some bad things about Dark Control. I haven't heard much about Earth however but from what I see it seems like a pretty solid set. Btw im pairing it with Ice. So what is better in your opinion and why.
Thanks All.