Just to be clear(for others that are lurking), you can only go undercover for the faction that you picked at character creation(Through the tutorial or as you enter Nova).
IIRC, you have to do a moral choice mission and change your current faction, to actually be undercover. If you are doing a Warden arc as a Loyalist(you can't do Crusader, the contacts are behind 'secret/coded' doors), you aren't really undercover, so calling Marchand is moot.
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Oh well that makes a lot more sense now. I have to actually faction switch over to resistance in order to be undercover. Gotcha!
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Originally Posted by Kederren
Just to be clear(for others that are lurking), you can only go undercover for the faction that you picked at character creation(Through the tutorial or as you enter Nova).
IIRC, you have to do a moral choice mission and change your current faction, to actually be undercover. If you are doing a Warden arc as a Loyalist(you can't do Crusader, the contacts are behind 'secret/coded' doors), you aren't really undercover, so calling Marchand is moot. |
Toxic Eel - Robot/Poison MM
Okay, now I'm going to say that something is broken. I swapped my loyalist over to the resistance via a morality mission, but Provost Marchand still has nothing for me when a mission says I should talk to him. I'm stumped!
Toxic Eel - Robot/Poison MM
You're misunderstanding, and the game is honestly not very clear about this. As a Loyalist, you can do arcs for Resistance contacts, although you'll need to find them for yourself. At certain critical points during the arcs, you will be told that you can call Provost Marchand and talk to him about what you're up to in order to sabotage the Resistance's plans. Conversely, Resistance members may do Loyalist arcs and call in to Calvin Scott at certain points. Not every arc gives you this opportunity, however.
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I know that part. I'm specifically calling when I have a mission selected that has orange text saying those who are working under cover should call Marchand. I've done 3 mission arcs so far and he won't respond at all to me.|
Originally Posted by DarkGob
You're misunderstanding, and the game is honestly not very clear about this. As a Loyalist, you can do arcs for Resistance contacts, although you'll need to find them for yourself. At certain critical points during the arcs, you will be told that you can call Provost Marchand and talk to him about what you're up to in order to sabotage the Resistance's plans. Conversely, Resistance members may do Loyalist arcs and call in to Calvin Scott at certain points. Not every arc gives you this opportunity, however.
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My character was an original loyalist who faction swapped over to resistance. I've tried both as a loyalist and as resistance and Marchand is oblivious to missions saying I should contact him.
Toxic Eel - Robot/Poison MM
Reading comprehension fail. Carry on.
"You don't lose levels. You don't have equipment to wear out, repair, or lose, or that anyone can steal from you. About the only thing lighter than debt they could do is have an NPC walk by, point and laugh before you can go to the hospital or base." -Memphis_Bill
We will honor the past, and fight to the last, it will be a good way to die...
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This is going to sound weird, but are you using the select mission button before you try to call Provost Marchand?
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Originally Posted by ToxicEel
I know that part. I'm specifically calling when I have a mission selected that has orange text saying those who are working under cover should call Marchand. I've done 3 mission arcs so far and he won't respond at all to me.
My character was an original loyalist who faction swapped over to resistance. I've tried both as a loyalist and as resistance and Marchand is oblivious to missions saying I should contact him. |
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Originally Posted by Back Alley Brawler
Did you just use "casual gamer" and "purpled-out warshade" in the same sentence?
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yeah, you have to accept the mission before calling it in to your "handler"
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Originally Posted by ArcticFahx
This is going to sound weird, but are you using the select mission button before you try to call Provost Marchand?
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Yep. I'm selecting the mission. I've tried going in and out of the mission too. Nothing seems to work. It's really driving me crazy trying to figure out what might be causing it.|
Originally Posted by Rajani Isa
yeah, you have to accept the mission before calling it in to your "handler"
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Edit: So I thought maybe the game messed up and thought my character was resistance originally. To test this I took up a normal loyalist arc and when I was prompted to contact Calvin Scott if I was working under cover I did and sadly he doesn't have anything to say either. So apparently the game doesn't think my character is a loyalist or resistance.
Toxic Eel - Robot/Poison MM
Here is a guide for Praetoria I found. Worked quite well on a recent character I spent 2 weeks on. http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Tyger%27...ing_Allegiance
Only the Warden and Responsibility arcs can be done by either alignment. The other 2 story arcs are mutually exclusive. The Power story line can only be done by Loyalists and the Crusader story line can only be done by Resistance.
An example would be starting as a loyalist character, switching to resistance, then calling Provost Marchand when a missions says you can.
It clearly states in the mission dialogue something like "for characters that start as loyalist/resistance, you can contact Provost Marchand/Calvin scott to inform him of....." It goes by your first alignment choice you made when creating your character if you skipped the tutorial or chose in the tutorial.
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Yes. It states it in orange text. My character was a loyalist at the very start when I created him. Yet Marchand never responded to any calls other than trying to offer me new contacts.|
Originally Posted by monkeyslap
It clearly states in the mission dialogue something like "for characters that start as loyalist/resistance, you can contact Provost Marchand/Calvin scott to inform him of....." It goes by your first alignment choice you made when creating your character if you skipped the tutorial or chose in the tutorial.
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I guess the point is moot now since my character has graduated from Praetoria. One interesting thing to note though is that my character is a villain, but the Doorman at the entrance to First Ward was giving me the hero introduction. I think there's something wrong with how the game categorizes my character.
Toxic Eel - Robot/Poison MM
How to go undercover:
1- Start as a Loyalist.
2- Switch to Resistance.
3- Do Resistance missions, and call Marchand when directed to.
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1- Start as Resistance.
2- Switch to Loyalist.
3- Do Loyalist missions, calling Calvin as directed.
You can only work undercover FOR the faction you originally picked in the tutorial (or on the character select screen, if you skipped the tutorial). You can only go undercover while a member of the faction you did NOT choose when you started.
From what I read in your posts, you were never eligible to go undercover, because you started Loyalist and stayed Loyalist.
EDIT: Selecting the mission is not necessary; if you have a mission with an "undercover objective", calling Scott or Marchand will automatically trigger that dialog before they give their standard dialog. The same goes for any other contact that you are sent to talk to when they would normally give standard dialog ("Talk to Ms Liberty" completes the mission rather than opening the Trainer dialog, talking to one of the side quest characters on Vincent Ross' arc gives the arc-related dialog before they try to hand out missions, etc).
@Roderick
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I did switch over to resistance after the first arc. Like I said in my last post, the Doorman is giving my villain the hero dialogue too. So obviously something is wrong with how my character is flagged, but I have no idea how that occurred.
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Originally Posted by Roderick
How to go undercover:
1- Start as a Loyalist. 2- Switch to Resistance. 3- Do Resistance missions, and call Marchand when directed to. -or- 1- Start as Resistance. 2- Switch to Loyalist. 3- Do Loyalist missions, calling Calvin as directed. You can only work undercover FOR the faction you originally picked in the tutorial (or on the character select screen, if you skipped the tutorial). You can only go undercover while a member of the faction you did NOT choose when you started. From what I read in your posts, you were never eligible to go undercover, because you started Loyalist and stayed Loyalist. EDIT: Selecting the mission is not necessary; if you have a mission with an "undercover objective", calling Scott or Marchand will automatically trigger that dialog before they give their standard dialog. The same goes for any other contact that you are sent to talk to when they would normally give standard dialog ("Talk to Ms Liberty" completes the mission rather than opening the Trainer dialog, talking to one of the side quest characters on Vincent Ross' arc gives the arc-related dialog before they try to hand out missions, etc). |
Toxic Eel - Robot/Poison MM
Funny I started as resistance than used find contact button to get into loyalist arcs and I have the option to call Calvin Scott a couple of times and it never failed like how did you describe. Mind you I didn't switched sides but after a certain event (first morality event and I choose resistance again) the orange text stoped to show up for quiet awhile evbenthough I am doing loyalist missions.
The orange text is part of the standard mission briefing; it always shows up, regardless of your eligibility. If you weren't seeing it, that just means you were doing missions with no undercover objectives.
@Roderick
Hello,
I'm currently running a loyalist character in Praetoria, but I'm trying to do the resistance missions under cover. I skipped the tutorial, but picked loyalist as my alignment. However my problem is when a mission says that I can call Provost Marchand to help the loyalists nothing happens. I call him and all he does is offer me contacts. I've tried visiting him personally, calling him, accepting his contacts, and nada. Am I missing something here?
Toxic Eel - Robot/Poison MM