Illusion/dark


Airhammer

 

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I really wanted to have my own dark mistress carnie kind of toon. So I rolled a ill/dark. What disappointed me the most is that I cant use my superior invisibility with shadow fall. I was really hoping that since they were in my primary and secondary it would work but no shadow fall de toggles the other and vice versa. So sad. Not sure if group invisible will work with shadow fall. I am guessing not. I don't think the Devs will change this rule. Would have been awesome if it wild have worked the way I thought.


 

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Since you're going to want Hasten anyhow(to get enough recharge for perma-PA) just go with Shadow Fall + Super Speed and you'll be fully invisible. There are very few enemies that will see through this level of invisibility that won't also see through Superior Invisibility. Stealthing with Shadow Fall + SS is better anyhow, giving you(and your close teammates/pets) unsuppressed Defense, decent Resistance to several damage types, and protection from Fear.


 

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Actually...i think that shadow fall would work with GI since unlike SI its a clickie power and not a toggle. Shadow Fall and Superior Invisiblity are mutually exclusive because they are toggles. You can't stack one stealth TOGGLE with another one. If GInvis couldn't be used, then someone that had Grant Invisiblity couldn't invis you, either. But...they can.


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Shadowfall and Group Invis will indeed stack. Just as GI will stack with SI... thats you're best bet if you want to stack defense bonuses.


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Its all good. Eventually you will have so many pets out they wont notice you anyway LOL


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Its all good. Eventually you will have so many pets out they wont notice you anyway LOL
AKA Stealth by distraction.


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Shadowfall works pretty much the same as Storm's Steamy Mist and Cold's Arctic Mist. Both my Ill/Storm and my Ill/Cold skipped Superior Invis. Both the Ill/Storm and the Ill/Cold use Super Speed to stack with the Mist for full invisibility. A Stealth IO in a travel power or Sprint work as well when stacked with a Mist or Shadowfall.

Group Invis is simply not needed unless you want to share the stealth outside of your Shadowfall Radius or for the small amount of Defense or as a convenient place for a Luck of the Gambler Recharge IO. But yes, the invis stacks. However since you are already at the stealth cap, the added invisibility doesn't really do anything other than against some +perception foes.


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