the message clearly states what happens with it, personally i dont see anything wrong with it activating straight from the menu, its really annoying to go digging through my temp powers list to find it when i want to use it so this solves the problem
Probably because this is the only way for them to give the information popup. There's no mechanic that I know of that allows an info window when activating a power (temporary or otherwise).
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Originally Posted by Dispari
I don't know why Dink thinks she's not as sexy as Jay was. In 5 posts she's already upstaged his entire career.
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I think the reason for the change (both for Windfall and for XP Booster) was simply that players were having trouble working out how to find and activate the temp power once claimed. Get enough support tickets on that and I can understand their decision to change the way it implemented.
Personally I don't like it, but I've had enough people on Lambda trials who seem completely unable to find and use a temp power to believe there were people out there who couldn't figure this out easily on their own.
As others have said, it's only mildly more inconvenient to claim it from the email menu - and until you do, it is 'saved for later' as there's no expiration on how long things can remain in the Character Items menu. It's a bit irksome, but if it saves the GMs a lot of headache I can understand it.
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I'm not a huge fan of it either, simply because I now have to keep all those things in my e-mail and have the e-mail icon flashing red all the time. Plus I know in the past things have had a habit of disappearing from e-mail and never coming back.
Honestly, only one thing matters:
Could it be deactivated, thus saving time on it for later, after activated, the way it was claimed before?
If it was not a "toggle" before then the only thing that has changed is that it activates immediately when you claim it(and should want to use it) rather than being thrown in the way too full temp powers list.
Of course, I'm not a fan of my email button being permanently red due to unclaimed account and character items either. That should change.(seriously, can't claim ascension costume pieces until 50 and who burns through every character item as soon as they get it?)
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Originally Posted by firespray
I'm not a huge fan of it either, simply because I now have to keep all those things in my e-mail and have the e-mail icon flashing red all the time. Plus I know in the past things have had a habit of disappearing from e-mail and never coming back.
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Originally Posted by firespray
I'm not a huge fan of it either, simply because I now have to keep all those things in my e-mail and have the e-mail icon flashing red all the time. Plus I know in the past things have had a habit of disappearing from e-mail and never coming back.
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Although it would be nice to not have it red for account/character items, agreed.
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Originally Posted by T_Immortalus
Honestly, only one thing matters:
Could it be deactivated, thus saving time on it for later, after activated, the way it was claimed before? If it was not a "toggle" before then the only thing that has changed is that it activates immediately when you claim it(and should want to use it) rather than being thrown in the way too full temp powers list. Of course, I'm not a fan of my email button being permanently red due to unclaimed account and character items either. That should change.(seriously, can't claim ascension costume pieces until 50 and who burns through every character item as soon as they get it?) |
B) It was never a toggle. You activated it and it ran its course.
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Originally Posted by Dispari
I don't know why Dink thinks she's not as sexy as Jay was. In 5 posts she's already upstaged his entire career.
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It still has the read email notifier. I don't want the items hidden, just the darn red email button unless I have an actual email.|
Originally Posted by Aggelakis
1) There's a toggle in options that turns off unclaimable rewards (e.g. lv50-only rewards on a sub-50 character).
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Originally Posted by Aggelakis
III) There is no III.
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Item 3. There is a toggle to stop it flashing in the options menu! It does still stay red but better than the flashy thing!
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Originally Posted by firespray
I'm not a huge fan of it either, simply because I now have to keep all those things in my e-mail and have the e-mail icon flashing red all the time. Plus I know in the past things have had a habit of disappearing from e-mail and never coming back.
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Originally Posted by T_Immortalus
It still has the read email notifier. I don't want the items hidden, just the darn red email button unless I have an actual email.
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Granted, I don't think you should get the red email notifier if you have account/character items to claim, but what I said is true. You can turn off unclaimable rewards and it will remove them from your list.
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I don't know why Dink thinks she's not as sexy as Jay was. In 5 posts she's already upstaged his entire career.
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And I meant I want it to not be red at all unless I have an actual email from another player or myself, not items that I have not claimed and may never claim on that character.|
Originally Posted by jacktar
Item 3. There is a toggle to stop it flashing in the options menu! It does still stay red but better than the flashy thing!
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Can we claim the base items more than once?
If not, I will most definitely be sitting on those until the end of time because I will never be sure I have found the correct super group to claim them and use them on.
I preferred the old way of claiming multiple use items, and single use items. The email method is clunky with it being too easily for my mouse(with wearing buttons) to register a double-click and unintentionally click two items possibly on the wrong character.
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Originally Posted by Aggelakis
Probably because this is the only way for them to give the information popup. There's no mechanic that I know of that allows an info window when activating a power (temporary or otherwise).
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yah I like this change- it was a pain claiming it then having to dig around the powers window to find it and set it off.
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There is a power in the Summer Event that pops up a window for the player to read.
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Just make it a self-target call with a button click required to close or a time-out cancel.
cope-paste-switcheroo-done.
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Btu yeah, it should be auto-fire from email claim.
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Have you ever used a Windfall temp power? No, it never acted like a toggle nor can you deactivate it. It functions similar to the XP Booster and lasts for 1 hour of in-game time period. Before you could claim a few on a character and place the temp power on a power tray and use it when you wanted. Recently, sometime between the release of Issue 23 and the time of my original post, it was changed to activate, without a choice, upon claiming it from email, like they did with the XP Booster +25% xp a while back.|
Originally Posted by T_Immortalus
Honestly, only one thing matters:
Could it be deactivated, thus saving time on it for later, after activated, the way it was claimed before? If it was not a "toggle" before then the only thing that has changed is that it activates immediately when you claim it(and should want to use it) rather than being thrown in the way too full temp powers list. Of course, I'm not a fan of my email button being permanently red due to unclaimed account and character items either. That should change.(seriously, can't claim ascension costume pieces until 50 and who burns through every character item as soon as they get it?) |
As for others who say "there may have been a high demand from players for this change", I never once saw anybody in game, or on the forums mention this at all. In fact, I remember when the XP Booster was changed to auto activated upon claiming players were rather upset about it. I saw complaints in the help channel and maybe on the forums.
The thing that disturbs me is that, just like the XP Booster temp power, the change how Windfall is activated was a 'stealth' change. Never announced and never added to the patch notes, much less no reason given for why the change happened.
After doing some searching I found what I'm talking about: http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showt...=286359&page=2
This is when players noticed the change to XP Boosters being auto activated upon claiming. Players seem to not have liked the change. Further down the page:
Quote: Zwillinger "This change is indeed intended and was an inadvertently missed note. We'll correct it ASAP.
For those concerned, there should be a confirmation window that notifies you that claiming this from your mail will activate the booster. I do understand concerns about changing the way this works, however the fact that you had to search through your mail, claim it, then search through your powers list and drag it to your bar, AND THEN activate it was determined to be a suboptimal user experience.
If you previously claimed boosters, they will still be in your powers and able to be activated in the legacy manner.
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NO indication that the change was even asked for. From the sounds of it the devs decided it was too inconvenient to claim the powers and then have to find it in your temp power list. So I'm assuming this was a change that the devs decided to force upon us without even asking.
Edit: Further on that page someone quoted Zwillinger and didn't agree with the change: http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showp...4&postcount=36
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Have you ever used a Windfall temp power? No, it never acted like a toggle nor can you deactivate it.
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"It is not a problem being in email because it functions the same way, minus a couple extra steps and digging through the power tray."
Essentially:
"Nothing to see here. Move along."
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I had no issue with it. I had my standard 3 trays, tray 4 used for my reusable temps (2nd Mut, base tp, etc) and tray 5 for limited use temps. the latter to hide up near the nav panel and are mostly out of the way, yet easy to activate when needed.
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yah I like this change- it was a pain claiming it then having to dig around the powers window to find it and set it off.
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I was going to claim a few Windfalls from character email when I got this message:
Claiming Windfall now functions like XP Booster. It activates when you claim it. You can NOT save it for later. Why was this changed? What possible logic is there for this? It was never in the patch notes. Players complained when the XP Booster was changed to function like that and as far as I know a reason for the change was never given.
I would really like an explanation for this. I don't like things being changed like this that are hard not to notice without any transparency as to why they decided to change it.