Did they adjust the trial yesterday? there was a patch in the morning.is that what it was?
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Victory huh? tempting but it would be a pain to make new roots.
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My love of pistachio's does not help lol.
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As far as I know there have been no changes to the trial. That said, the bug that makes it rough on leagues attempting to do the trial normally relates to a too-low target cap on the level shifts from destroying the Lights, which wouldn't be an issue for a RHW run.|
Originally Posted by BlackTabby
Did they adjust the trial yesterday? there was a patch in the morning.is that what it was?
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I'm half-tempted to try that this weekend, but between the facts that my sister will kill me if I don't play the GW2 beta with her and that I'd like to lead a successful Magisterium trial before I try leading a RHW run, probably not.
Anyway, congratulations Spatch, Madame Pistacio, and the rest of the successful RHW league. Any tips you'd like to share with us?
This really needs to be done on Champion, and I really need to be there when it happens :P
Only badges im missing is from magistrium. so guess what. have to be there too
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Originally Posted by Spatch
as can be seen here http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=290958).
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Ugh, that color scheme on their menu would burn out my retinas after an hour, however grats on your badge.
Grats!
Is it wrong that I'm amused by The Really Hard Way awarding before The Hard Way on runs that qualify for both?
Out of curiosity, why all longbow? I get that plasma blast from the mech is massive but it's 30% chance, wouldn't robotic drones that have guaranteed regen debuff and with enough of them probably have a better effect? Althogh a 30% chance for -500% regen every 4 seconds is still decent odds with that many Longbow.
Now what I really don't understand is everyone equipping diamagnetic. To my understanding an interface debuff can only stack a total of 4 times total. One person could readily keep 4 stacks on Tyrant. Honestly you'd want as broad of a spectrum of interfaces to have a broad spectrum of debuffs placed on him. Reactive for -res so you're hitting harder and fire dot, diamagnetic for -regen, degenerative to lower his HP cap which also lowers his regen and adds on some toxic dot.
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the robotic drones do only max of -50% regen per attack, longbow is the only lore pet that does -500% on the attack even if its only a chance it can still easily stack up to -2000% regen because the debuff lasts for 30 sec and the attack is ~4 sec|
Originally Posted by Horusaurus
Out of curiosity, why all longbow? I get that plasma blast from the mech is massive but it's 30% chance, wouldn't robotic drones that have guaranteed regen debuff and with enough of them probably have a better effect? Althogh a 30% chance for -500% regen every 4 seconds is still decent odds with that many Longbow.
Now what I really don't understand is everyone equipping diamagnetic. To my understanding an interface debuff can only stack a total of 4 times total. One person could readily keep 4 stacks on Tyrant. Honestly you'd want as broad of a spectrum of interfaces to have a broad spectrum of debuffs placed on him. Reactive for -res so you're hitting harder and fire dot, diamagnetic for -regen, degenerative to lower his HP cap which also lowers his regen and adds on some toxic dot. |
i wouldnt use diamagnetic anyway even at a 4 stack vs an AV it would do less than -25% regen which even 1 use of twilight grasp or transfusion could beat
degenerative or reactive would prolly be better to go, degenrative does -max hp as well as additional DoT and reactive does -resist and more DoT
you are right though that more than maybe 4-5 people should not have the same interface due to stacking cap
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Well -50% per attack and assuming tier 4 drones, they have 4 to 5 attacks, each one does -50% albeit for only 5 seconds so yeah, since the Longbow debuff lasts for 30 seconds, long run, it will probably have a bigger impact. But something to note is that Robotic Drones does have slightly better single target dps. Long story short, I think both robotic drones and longbow are viable options.
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Originally Posted by Necrotech_Master
the robotic drones do only max of -50% regen per attack, longbow is the only lore pet that does -500% on the attack even if its only a chance it can still easily stack up to -2000% regen because the debuff lasts for 30 sec and the attack is ~4 sec
i wouldnt use diamagnetic anyway even at a 4 stack vs an AV it would do less than -25% regen which even 1 use of twilight grasp or transfusion could beat degenerative or reactive would prolly be better to go, degenrative does -max hp as well as additional DoT and reactive does -resist and more DoT you are right though that more than maybe 4-5 people should not have the same interface due to stacking cap |
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A fair question about the reason behind longbow cataphract lores.
My understanding - (which is by no means always correct or unlimited) is that Tyrant has 80% regen debuff resistance. After the math, two -500% regen debuffs is supposedly all that's needed to floor his regen *as much as we can floor it*.
A benumb and a drain psyche or equivalent.
Some have mentioned that DoT aspect as also being a viable choice.
In the end, I think any league with good balance of buff, debuff, damage and damage mitigation -- with players who are focused - can do this, with the additional aid of Ultimates and Tier 4 reds and Red team inspirations.
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I'm pretty sure we had varied interface abilities active, just diamagnetic was what I had slotted. I thought it to be a pretty significant debuff on Tyrant, but I'm probably overstating the case. You're quite right other interface debuffs are as important.
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Originally Posted by Horusaurus
Out of curiosity, why all longbow? I get that plasma blast from the mech is massive but it's 30% chance, wouldn't robotic drones that have guaranteed regen debuff and with enough of them probably have a better effect? Althogh a 30% chance for -500% regen every 4 seconds is still decent odds with that many Longbow.
Now what I really don't understand is everyone equipping diamagnetic. To my understanding an interface debuff can only stack a total of 4 times total. One person could readily keep 4 stacks on Tyrant. Honestly you'd want as broad of a spectrum of interfaces to have a broad spectrum of debuffs placed on him. Reactive for -res so you're hitting harder and fire dot, diamagnetic for -regen, degenerative to lower his HP cap which also lowers his regen and adds on some toxic dot. |
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normally that is the case, but once tyrant hits 40% hp then as you start killing him more, his regen goes up, at around 15-20% hp its pretty astronimical, when i get my bane spider up more ill get some more exact numbers|
Originally Posted by Ukaserex
A fair question about the reason behind longbow cataphract lores.
My understanding - (which is by no means always correct or unlimited) is that Tyrant has 80% regen debuff resistance. After the math, two -500% regen debuffs is supposedly all that's needed to floor his regen *as much as we can floor it*. |
he also should have 87% regen resist at lvl 54
Just wanted to chime in...
-My color scheme matches my costume, I am sure the coloring is not for everyone
-Pistachios, YAY! (from the commercial)
-You are absolutely right, drones would be a good choice. I was just choosing lore pets that (in my experience) tended to stay alive longer (in the case of Cimerorans) and those with the best debuff (Longbow)
-I asked for a mix of proc and diamagnetic. I think about 6 people wound up slotting dia and the rest had delicious procs.
-I think the ultimates and the debuffs were the biggest positive as well.
-I am glad that I made such strict demands because now there are 30+ people on Victory who will be able to help others with the badge in the future
Lastly, should anyone need help, we're always willing to Just let us know!
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Tyrant has two separate powers buffing his regen debuff resistance. One has a power of 80%, the other 87%. Which means his regen debuff resist shows as capped at 100%, and thus the Longbow Lore are actually not doing anything special. Though, I've heard at least one person suggest that the formula for stacking the -regen resists makes it (1-(1-.8)*(1-.87)), which gives him 97.4% regen debuff resist. If that's true, it would still mean that the 500% debuffs from those Longbow ends up at 13%, and barely touch him at all.
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Originally Posted by Ukaserex
A fair question about the reason behind longbow cataphract lores.
My understanding - (which is by no means always correct or unlimited) is that Tyrant has 80% regen debuff resistance. After the math, two -500% regen debuffs is supposedly all that's needed to floor his regen *as much as we can floor it*. A benumb and a drain psyche or equivalent. Some have mentioned that DoT aspect as also being a viable choice. In the end, I think any league with good balance of buff, debuff, damage and damage mitigation -- with players who are focused - can do this, with the additional aid of Ultimates and Tier 4 reds and Red team inspirations. |
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If said statement is true either way seems that cimeroans would probably be superior since it has the best single target dps among all the lore pets.
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Originally Posted by Billy Mailman
Tyrant has two separate powers buffing his regen debuff resistance. One has a power of 80%, the other 87%. Which means his regen debuff resist shows as capped at 100%, and thus the Longbow Lore are actually not doing anything special. Though, I've heard at least one person suggest that the formula for stacking the -regen resists makes it (1-(1-.8)*(1-.87)), which gives him 97.4% regen debuff resist. If that's true, it would still mean that the 500% debuffs from those Longbow ends up at 13%, and barely touch him at all.
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I'll always be a "Champion" at heart. My server away from home.
"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty." - Thomas Jefferson
"With great moustache comes great responsibility" - Zee Captain
Did a little server tourism this week, getting onto some leagues over on Victory in attempts at The Really Hard Way badge. Third time lucky:
The league was fairly varied (as can be seen here http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=290958). We threw everything but the kitchen sink at Tyrant:
1. Diamagnetic interface (-regen, -hp)
2. Ultimate Super inspirations
3. Furious Rage super inspirations
4. Team inspirations
5. Use of T3 or T4 Longbow Core (-regen I believe)
6. Everyone was either T3 or T4 in all incarnate abilities
Things didn't start off well, as everybody got booted shortly after beginning the first attempt. Starting over, things got a bit strange as a 54+3 Tyrant AV joined the fray during the initial defeat 250 phase. After that, things progressed normally. It was quite the button mashing session, and we had some serious see-sawing of Tyrant's health in the 20-30% range. But seeing that badge message appear at the end was pretty sweet.
Q. Just wondering Posi, where are the new dance emotes we were told would come with GR?
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