free missions in Night Ward?
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Agent White,
Posted on: 2012-06-01 05:36 in ALL ACCESS Gameplay Technical Issues Bugs
I had the same problem with my level 50. I had to get the initial contact from ouroboros in order to start the arcs.
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It's possible. The 5 alignment contacts in First Ward are essentially newspaper missions, each contact only hands out about 3-4 misions, 1 of which is just a 'go kill X amount of Y group". Though their level range is strictly 20-29. At 30 they move to Inactive Contacts
And the level range for Trilogy and Fireball (And the Drudge? Which I think is a villain contact) are 30-50.
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Ahh, I went to Trilogy and Fireball. I didn't know their level range.|
Originally Posted by Agent White
It's possible. The 5 alignment contacts in First Ward are essentially newspaper missions, each contact only hands out about 3-4 misions, 1 of which is just a 'go kill X amount of Y group". Though their level range is strictly 20-29. At 30 they move to Inactive Contacts
And the level range for Trilogy and Fireball (And the Drudge? Which I think is a villain contact) are 30-50. |
But, my main question is why don't I have to pay for those contacts?
I'm not VIP.
Are they free contacts/missions for everyone? Is that the same for the First Ward secondary contacts as well?
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Because Paragon Points don't come in fractions of one.
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Originally Posted by T_Immortalus
But, my main question is why don't I have to pay for those contacts?
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Originally Posted by Zombie Man
Because Paragon Points don't come in fractions of one.
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1) I am on a free account, so no free access to Night Ward contacts.
2) I did not purchase the Night Ward mission pack.
3) I can not access the primary storyline contacts of Night Ward.
Therefore, why am I able to do missions for Trilogy and Fireball while Mistress Maria and Montague Castanella say that I need to be VIP or purchase the pack?
Am I getting something for free as intended or is this a bug and they should be locked behind a payment?
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Yes, it does seem that this fell through the cracks.|
Originally Posted by T_Immortalus
/facepalm
1) I am on a free account, so no free access to Night Ward contacts. 2) I did not purchase the Night Ward mission pack. 3) I can not access the primary storyline contacts of Night Ward. Therefore, why am I able to do missions for Trilogy and Fireball while Mistress Maria and Montague Castanella say that I need to be VIP or purchase the pack? Am I getting something for free as intended or is this a bug and they should be locked behind a payment? |
My point was, made in sarcastic jest, that if they wanted to sell these arcs, they'd together be worth less than one Paragon Point. So, I find it unlikely that the Devs will rush to correct this... they're no selling point for the zone.
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I don't know if it's a bug or not. Honestly my instinct is to say 'no'.
The main draw of First Ward and Night Ward are the ongoing storylines they add to the game. That's basically what they're selling, like the individual SSA arcs, only it's a whole zone worth.
The 5 contacts in First Ward just offer a small handful of repeatable missions. It's like newspaper missions for those zones. There are no end of arc rewards, no massive chunk of experience, no reward merits, just the standard single mission completion rewards.
This is the same for Sir Lionel and Atherton (sp?) Cromwell in Nightward. I finally found them after I hit 30, I assume their level range is 30-39 like the First Ward contacts are 20-29. Interestingly, both are available to Heroes and Villains, though the Drudge is -definitely- more villain flavored.
I'm not sure if Fireball and Trilogy have end arc rewards though. So, they might just be exceptions.
But I'd guess that it's okay they're available to everyone. At least I don't really see why the Devs would feel it's an integral part of the zone's experience to tie it up in the purchase. Just think of it as a taste of what the zone stories offer.
Ok, so nobody knows if it is intentional or not.
Does somebody want to PM a community rep to ask?
I just don't want to get in trouble for taking advantage of something I am not supposed to have access to.
You're not going to get in trouble 
At worst you'll just not be able to get missions from the contacts if it's some bug they 'fix'. But again, they don't offer anything really that's all that important. The repeatables are just random missions. Fireball and Trilogy are very poor 'arcs'. It isn't like they give you something you shouldn't have except play experience.
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I sent a PM to Arbiter Warrant when I saw the initial post.
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Originally Posted by T_Immortalus
Ok, so nobody knows if it is intentional or not.
Does somebody want to PM a community rep to ask? I just don't want to get in trouble for taking advantage of something I am not supposed to have access to. |
If the game spit out 20 dollar bills people would complain that they weren't sequentially numbered. If they were sequentially numbered people would complain that they weren't random enough.
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I can guarantee you that you will not get in trouble. This is no where near exploit country if indeed it is a bug, which it probably is. Knock yourself out.
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Originally Posted by T_Immortalus
Ok, so nobody knows if it is intentional or not.
Does somebody want to PM a community rep to ask? I just don't want to get in trouble for taking advantage of something I am not supposed to have access to. |
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And even if it were, you don't really get in trouble for reporting an exploit, even if you did use it.
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Originally Posted by Zombie Man
I can guarantee you that you will not get in trouble. This is no where near exploit country if indeed it is a bug, which it probably is. Knock yourself out.
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You do if you report it on the forums where other players can see (and exploit) it.|
Originally Posted by DarkGob
you don't really get in trouble for reporting an exploit
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Not the case in this thread, however. Not an exploit, just a bug.
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If it is indeed a bug.
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Originally Posted by Chad Gulzow-Man
You do if you report it on the forums where other players can see (and exploit) it.
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Just checked this with the mission designer, who confirmed through the mighty War witch her very own self that this is working correctly. These missions are all access content.
Thanks for asking!
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Originally Posted by Arbiter Warrant
Just checked this with the mission designer, who confirmed through the mighty War witch her very own self that this is working correctly. These missions are all access content.
Thanks for asking! |
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Oh cool!|
Originally Posted by Arbiter Warrant
Just checked this with the mission designer, who confirmed through the mighty War witch her very own self that this is working correctly. These missions are all access content.
Thanks for asking! |
I hope you do this for future content(and hopefully someday unlock the alpha incarnate slot and arc for free) to give us a "taste of what we're missing" by not purchasing.
1) It gives us a little bit of a"try before we buy" thing.
2) It gives us a taste of what will likely be even better in the locked content, giving us a lot of incentive to purchase.
Consider it a "free trial".
That would be very nice.
(P.S. I really do wish the alpha slot was at least included with a Going Rogue expansion purchase if not free for everyone as a teaser for incarnate power. It would help some struggling characters a lot at the level cap as well.)
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Where's Marty Mcfly? I just hit 1955 and he's supposed to be here at least twice.
(Back To The Future humor with my post count)
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There goes 1984! Where's Big Brother? Right behind me!!??
1985 is next. I guess I'll catch Marty there after he comes "Back To The Future".
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Then why in heck didn't the devs post it in the patch notes? There is NO mention as to which contacts are free for everybody and which contacts require a VIP membership. I was sitting here waiting to purchase a Night Ward Zone Pack from the paragon market only to find out after asking that only SOME of the contacts are available to everybody and nobody seems to have a clue about being able to purchase a zone pack from the market.|
Originally Posted by Arbiter Warrant
Just checked this with the mission designer, who confirmed through the mighty War witch her very own self that this is working correctly. These missions are all access content.
Thanks for asking! |
Note: I didn't see this thread before posing in the ask a question section and someone there posted a link to this thread here so I could see that a "red name" stated it's "working as intended".
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=291110
Could you PLEASE tell us WHICH contacts are VIP only and which contacts us freemiums have access to?
Hit 'find contact'. If it's available, it'll show up. Done.
Someone was nice enough to fix the problem on the wiki page.
Now I can see which contacts are VIP only. The part that said "Regular Contacts - Requires a VIP subscription" was to the bottom right of the table of contents instead of being directly above the contacts below the contents. I'm happy now. (and less confused) 
Are some of the contacts in Night Ward supposed to be free to every account type?
I'm on a premium account and I can access the missions from the contacts that aren't the main arc, despite my level being 50 even on the character I tried.
Is that intended? Does this work the same for the non-main story contacts of First Ward as well?
This is intriguing.