combat attributes completely wrong in pvp
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Gaia,
Posted on: 2012-05-12 20:53 in ALL ACCESS Gameplay Technical Issues Bugs
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Originally Posted by Katie V
Congratulations! You've just encountered one of the many unexpected game mechanics of PvP, in this case, Diminishing Returns. Fun, isn't it?
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#3 in the edit above still is broken though.
So what? It's PvP! 
Seriously though... I doubt errors w/ numbers in PvP is too high on the ol' priority list.
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I would think the problem with Corruptor attacks showing nothing but(just made up numbers):|
Originally Posted by Thirty-Seven
So what? It's PvP!
Seriously though... I doubt errors w/ numbers in PvP is too high on the ol' priority list. |
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X-ray Beam: 41 damage -15% def for 8 seconds 2.5& |
Just look in character creation or in game detailed info. It just stops and doesn't show any of the secondary effects and their values beyond that "2.5% chance to scourge per..." line.
This is most obvious for ice primary that doesn't show all the slow values. It is as if the set doesn't have slows.
lolpvp
Yep. Welcome to pvp!
H: Blaster 50, Defender 50, Tank 50, Scrapper 50, Controller 50, PB 50, WS 50
V: Brute 50, Corruptor 50, MM 50, Dominator 50, Stalker 50, AW 50, AS 50
Top 4: Controller, Brute, Scrapper, Corruptor
Bottom 4: (Peacebringer) way below everything else, Mastermind, Dominator, Blaster
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Whilst in a PvP zone your standard values will be the PvP values. (Note the option is to show PvP values not to show PvE ones) This would mean that when the Show PvP values is unchecked it will display the normal vales - Whilst in that zone these will be the PvP values and so should be the same whether that is checked or not.|
Originally Posted by T_Immortalus
Also, the PVE value for Farsight is actually 14.71% defense to all, but it shows 15.00% in PVP in both the power's detailed info and my enhancement management screen's detailed info.
(Edit: Using the "show pvp effects" option while in any zone does not change power values anymore as well. It shows 15% for Farsight while in a PVP zone no matter what, and 14.71% in PVE zones.) What the hell is going on with the numbers in PVP zones? |
As for the detailed values display bug in the character creator - yep its a bug although I don't see the same details for XRay beam as you
X Energy damage
X Energy damage
2.5
where X matches the Average damage figure and scales with level
nothing about a Def debuff.
It does indeed truncate at 2.5
I thought at first it may have been a problem with screen resolution but I would have expected it to truncate at a different point if that were the case. I'll /bug it shortly.
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Deadly Doc 50 Dark/Dark Corr
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I went form memory and knew it would be faulty. The point was to give a general idea of how it looks.|
Originally Posted by Gaia
As for the detailed values display bug in the character creator - yep its a bug although I don't see the same details for XRay beam as you
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It seems the problem is the % sign. Either it now truncates the info or they are using the wrong symbol or code or something(instead of % ) which truncates the info.
It's probably their handling of the percentage sign... It's caused them troubles in the past (when Real Numbers first came out, there were double % signs everywhere that was a percent... I wouldn't be shocked if this current bug is related to the fix of that bug).
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Originally Posted by ShadowNate
;_; ?!?! What the heck is wrong with you, my god, I have never been so confused in my life!
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Maybe they should just give up and type out the word fr every symbol.|
Originally Posted by Kitsune Knight
It's probably their handling of the percentage sign... It's caused them troubles in the past (when Real Numbers first came out, there were double % signs everywhere that was a percent... I wouldn't be shocked if this current bug is related to the fix of that bug).
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For example: percent instead of %.
They seem to handle the alphabet better.
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Originally Posted by T_Immortalus
I went form memory and knew it would be faulty. The point was to give a general idea of how it looks.
It seems the problem is the % sign. Either it now truncates the info or they are using the wrong symbol or code or something(instead of % ) which truncates the info. |
Very probably. Its most likely that they have messed up the escaping of the % symbol in the database queries to extract the details. Very easy to do when you are passing literal strings. Quotes are often an even bigger pain.
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Deadly Doc 50 Dark/Dark Corr
and lots more on Pinnacle,Union and Defiant
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And that, friends, is why you use prepared statements, and not try to manually escape the queries!|
Originally Posted by Gaia
Very probably. Its most likely that they have messed up the escaping of the % symbol in the database queries to extract the details. Very easy to do when you are passing literal strings. Quotes are often an even bigger pain.
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(works wonders for SQL and printf-like functions, sadly there isn't really an equivalent for HTML... keeping your presentation, data, and code separate is always a good idea)
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Originally Posted by ShadowNate
;_; ?!?! What the heck is wrong with you, my god, I have never been so confused in my life!
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Don't know about the other stuff but maybe the recent patch had something to do with it. http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=288963|
Originally Posted by T_Immortalus
2) The archetype can no longer be changed to see performance for other archetypes(discovered this just now).(Edit: seems to only affect certain powers like x-ray beam)
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"Archetype selection in character creation can no longer be deselected."
As far as something being broken in PvP, I've heard various reports in game But 1 thing that seems to be the same is PvP was broken sometime around issue 13 IIRC.
I happened to be in Recluse's Victory getting explore badges when I decided to check my combat attributes defense totals, to see how much Farsight was worth.
This is what I saw:
Ranged Defense - 12.62%
Farsight - 14.21%
Stealth - 2.25%
Stealth - 2.25%
Base - 0.00%
I waited until Farsight expired and this is what I saw:
Ranged Defense - 4.12%
Stealth - 2.25%
Stealth - 2.25%
Base - 0.00%
Also, the PVE value for Farsight is actually 14.71% defense to all, but it shows 15.00% in PVP in both the power's detailed info and my enhancement management screen's detailed info.
(Edit: Using the "show pvp effects" option while in any zone does not change power values anymore as well. It shows 15% for Farsight while in a PVP zone no matter what, and 14.71% in PVE zones.)
What the hell is going on with the numbers in PVP zones?
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Also, why are the detailed info screens for powers so messed up now?
1) This bug.
2) The archetype can no longer be changed to see performance for other archetypes(discovered this just now).(Edit: seems to only affect certain powers like x-ray beam)
3) The detailed info for corruptors breaks as soon as it tries to show the scourge chance. It shows "2.5" and then cuts off the entire rest of the power's info.(been this way since issue 21 at least)
Somebody completely broke the detailed info option and PVP combat attributes.