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And rather than create a live chat feature on their own website they again use external websites that not everyone has access to, meaning to participate I have to give me personal details to yet another company.
You are leaving out the part about free advertising. Not only are the saving money by using those sites and not creating their own, but they are making more people aware of the game that are not already coming here. Though that is something this game has done from day one, they have let other media sources release sneak peeks of what is coming up, and then sharing links on the website.


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Because they have a website that they should be using to its full capability. You can display text and pictures on here so there is no real reason for using prezzi (Whatever that is) other than because it is some kind of stupid fashion.
The stupid fashion that Prezi is riding is the stupid fashion that a lot of people (myself included) has believed for a very long time that the almost universal application of Powerpoint to make presentations of information has led to a whole bunch of people not qualified to make information presentations doing so anyway with a tool that is easy to use but extremely difficult to use correctly, which often encourages people to obfuscate information, produce misleading structure, and occasionally kill astronauts.


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The stupid fashion that Prezi is riding is the stupid fashion that a lot of people (myself included) has believed for a very long time that the almost universal application of Powerpoint to make presentations of information has led to a whole bunch of people not qualified to make information presentations doing so anyway with a tool that is easy to use but extremely difficult to use correctly, which often encourages people to obfuscate information, produce misleading structure, and occasionally kill astronauts.
People where making bad presentations long before PowerPoint was invented. See: Flipchart, OHP. Blame the speaker, not the tools.

And it's the ab-use of this kind of software that allows students to produce some interesting stuff. Even weak students can make animated comics, for example.

The standard web format is linear. Presentation software allows a non-linear approach to be used. Again, this is not a new idea. Mind maps have been around for a long time. Which people prefer depends on their learning style. Since pretty much any class will include a range of learning styles, you need to include a range of different presentation techniques.


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that's ok with me, your rants make sense when explained and came up with the flow of conversation. also, i concurr.

but yaaaaay nature affinity!!!!

i hope it pairs well thematically with other sets besides plant/earth control and maybe water blast :/


wind blast nao! <3
Don't forget Bots/Nature. Actually I tend to shy away from "perfect" matches and prefer the odd combo's, it makes me come up with more interesting stories.


 

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Don't forget Bots/Nature. Actually I tend to shy away from "perfect" matches and prefer the odd combo's, it makes me come up with more interesting stories.
Only if you can have vines growing on your robots.


 

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Many of use are already on those sites. You think we should be ostracised because you don't like them?
You also use this site though, I never suggested taking all content from those sites, but simply to use the facilities this website offers to its maximum.

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It's VERY expensive. They would have to hire full time moderators as well as all-new web software. Personally, I would rather the money be spent on game content.
Only if you want to leave it up 24/7 like the forums, having it only active during set times removes the need for that.

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The point of html websites was so you could navigate around the vast quantity of information on the internet easily by clicking hyperlinks. NOT so you only ever go to one place. You don't need the internet at all for that.
And the rush to embed stuff without having to use other software (See html5 (I think) replacing flash) is because people don't like having to change from site to site, download other software, or give away personal details.

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I personally don't like information in the form of video or audio. But I don't insist that only the forms of media that I personally like should ever be used.
I am in the same boat, I think it is lazy to include a video/audio clip without a text summary.

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The stupid fashion that Prezi is riding is the stupid fashion that a lot of people (myself included) has believed for a very long time that the almost universal application of Powerpoint to make presentations of information has led to a whole bunch of people not qualified to make information presentations doing so anyway with a tool that is easy to use but extremely difficult to use correctly, which often encourages people to obfuscate information, produce misleading structure, and occasionally kill astronauts.
I work in a college and have to explain to people how to use powerpoint quite a lot, then I see what they are using it for and have to resist doing their work for them.


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People where making bad presentations long before PowerPoint was invented. See: Flipchart, OHP. Blame the speaker, not the tools.
People have been writing bad works so there's no such thing as a bad wordprocessor?


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And it's the ab-use of this kind of software that allows students to produce some interesting stuff. Even weak students can make animated comics, for example.
Such works have no critical stake in ensuring that the information presented be communicated correctly, which is 99% of what Powerpoint is ostensibly used for.

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The standard web format is linear. Presentation software allows a non-linear approach to be used. Again, this is not a new idea. Mind maps have been around for a long time. Which people prefer depends on their learning style. Since pretty much any class will include a range of learning styles, you need to include a range of different presentation techniques.
The web, specifically HTML, was originally designed explicitly to support non-linear information organization, via the use of hyperlinks. Your statement is false on its face. And conversely, the critical problem with Powerpoint is that it explicitly encourages non-linear organization of linear information and pseudo-linear organization of non-linear information through the over-encouragement of the outline format.


You can blame the speaker and not the tool if you like, but this is a serious enough problem that many people have taken to beating the speaker to death *with* the tool, killing two birds with one stone.


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If the speaker is any good, people won't even notice what tool they are using, since everyone will be looking at the speaker, not some screen.

Oh, and hyperlinks do not qualify as an effective form of non-linear data presentation. Like PowerPoint, HTML isn't really used in the way it was designed. But that can be said about many things. It is normal for humans to try and use things in ways they weren't designed, like using an ox thigh-bone to hit people over the head.


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Blaming astronaut deaths on Powerpoint is so mindboggling it deserves just this one sentence.

Back on top, Nature Affinity sounds interesting and I wonder how it will visually synergise with Plant Control.