35 Hero Merits ... Best bang for my merits?


Citizen_Razor

 

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So, my toon finally got 35 merits.

What should I spend them on to get the most possible inf? A Lv10 PvP proc, or something else?

Any tips or advice would be helpful.

Thanks!


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Converters get you the best bang for your hero merits by far.

One hero merit gets you 10 converters.

Converting PVP IOs can net you 250m-300m profit for each successful conversion. In my experience it takes on average 10-15 converters to go from a cheap PVP IO to one of the three valuable ones.

I suspect converting mez purples to damage purples might be even more lucrative, but I haven't done it since right after converters came out, so I don't know for sure.

This of course assumes that you have the money to buy things to convert (although I think the cheap PVP IOs are still pretty cheap).

If you can't do that, I think random rolls are probably your best bet.


 

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Rolling or converting PVPs doesn't seem like the way to go these days.

Converting purples is good money. There are also specific in-set and out-of-set conversions that are good money; I don't know many of those though. (3 converters is a lot to put into a Kinetic Combat: Knockback. Numina's End/Rech might be a good deal, but I haven't tried that one.)

I think "random roll, 35-39" is still a pretty good bet; however, I have been doing a lot of playing and very little optimizing these days. You might even do well with random roll 25-29, because not many people are doing that and something like Eradication or Basilisk's might still be worth 100 million inf.

10 converters can almost certainly get you more than 5 random rolls. I just don't know enough of the details because I'm not hungry enough for inf.


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Well, the RNG hates me, always has.

I have been experimenting with converters, only the ones that I get as drops, and keeping track of how many I use and how much I am making. 1 alignment merit = 10 converters and with my current stats I would make far less than 50 million per alignment merit.

I have also tried the random roll thing, but as I've said, the RNG hates me and here I also made far less than 50M/merit average.

I can make a guaranteed 50m/merit by buying specific recipes that sell well. Slow but steady income. You just have to pick the right ones and keep current on what they are. But generally, these cost 2 alignment merits and sell between 110 to 160M.

Maybe your luck will be different with random stuff, but I've never gotten lucky. Maybe that's why I don't gamble :P


 

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Like Fulmens, I haven't given this too much thought recently. That said, your
your choices are fairly finite assuming you're just looking for cash.

A> Exchange them for 1 Premium PvP or Purple - probably worth ~400M these days.
The is quite likely the least profitable option, although it's certainly the easiest in
terms of least effort required (given that you already earned the merits).

B> Exhange them for 10 converters each day (20 hr cooldown iirc). You'd eventually
get 350 converters and you could convert them into (a dozen or so?) PvP or Purples.
This is probably the most lucrative, but don't forget that RNG is involved, you also
need starting IOs (purple or PVP), none of which are cheap these days (typcially
around 50-150M), so you'd likely net ~200M per conversion (depending...).

C> Exchange your merits for 1 & 2 merit recipes (ie. LotG, Numina, etc). Crafted,
those sell for 50-100M each for 17 (or more IO's). There's also a 20hr cooldown
on this as well.

Which to do would depend on how much effort you want to put in, how much
you care about RNG, and whether you want to squeeze every last inf out of those
merits.


Regards,
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Certain level 10 PVP Enhancements are still selling fairly high - simply because there isn't any level 10 stuff to convert into the desired enhancements. So there is another option that isn't too labor intensive.


 

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Let's say you can average 10 million per converter. That seems like about the right number the way I use them; a lot of people can do better, I'm sure, but that seems like a pretty conservative number.

That's 100 million per Hero Merit.

That's 3.5 billion per "level 10 PVP enhancement".

Given that I recently picked up some level 50 PVP enhancements for less than 1/10 that, I have trouble believing that's ever a price you're going to approach.

Flat out buying individual recipes, I could get 50M easily, 75M with hard searching and luck. I have trouble believing that you can roll 5 at a time and consistently not get ANYTHING worth 50 million.

You'll get rich any of these ways.


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Quote:
Originally Posted by MallardDuck View Post
Certain level 10 PVP Enhancements are still selling fairly high - simply because there isn't any level 10 stuff to convert into the desired enhancements. So there is another option that isn't too labor intensive.
People will probably notice sooner or later that the low level to buy at is now L15 rather than L10, since there's a supply. In terms of convenience, not a huge difference since those levels go quickly.


 

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Thanks for all of the tips and suggestions.


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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hube02 View Post
Well, the RNG hates me, always has.
I'm gonna tell you a secret. You ready?

The RNG hates everybody. It's designed that way.

Anyone who makes their fortune off the RNG - Be it farming for drops, making random rolls, converting enhancements, or anything else - doesn't do it by being lucky. Even if you have a stroke of luck and your first Alignment Merit roll is a Numi Unique, a Miracle Unique and three LotG +Rech, that's not enough to "have it made" unless all you ever slot is SOs and Common IOs, and only a fool would expect every roll following it to be as good.

Those of us who make it off the randoms don't do it by being lucky, we do it by being stubborn. By trying over and over again until it goes right. Of course, a little research to find the best odds helps, but even when everything's as good as it's going to get, the odds are still stacked against us.

Think of it this way: If you were to play the lottery, would you have a better chance to win if you had one ticket, or if you had 100 tickets? Every bad guy you punch, every Merit you roll a recipe on, and every converter you use is a lottery ticket. The more tickets you have, the more likely you are to win. Yeah, you might lose. But, unlike real life, you can afford to try repeatedly and fail - No matter how many bad guys you punch, there's always at least one more.


@Roderick

 

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Sorry for resurrecting my own dead topic, but I wanted to thank everybody here for their advice. I decided to go the "slow and steady" method and converted my hero merits into enhancement converters. It took a few months and some patience on the market, but I managed to flip about 40 hero merits into 13 billion inf (and three complete set of purples). I'm now pretty much set for a long time.

My initial goal was to get an average of 100 million per hero merit, and I far surpassed that goal.

So thanks, everybody!


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Originally Posted by Citizen_Razor View Post
Sorry for resurrecting my own dead topic, but I wanted to thank everybody here for their advice. I decided to go the "slow and steady" method and converted my hero merits into enhancement converters. It took a few months and some patience on the market, but I managed to flip about 40 hero merits into 13 billion inf (and three complete set of purples). I'm now pretty much set for a long time.

My initial goal was to get an average of 100 million per hero merit, and I far surpassed that goal.

So thanks, everybody!
I, for one, am glad to see the update, and happy to hear it worked out well for you

Cheers,
4


I've been rich, and I've been poor. Rich is definitely better.
Light is faster than sound - that's why some people look smart until they speak.
For every seller who leaves the market dirty stinkin' rich,
there's a buyer who leaves the market dirty stinkin' IOed. - Obitus.