inb4 the equality nuts that will say "best" doesn't matter in coh blah blah blah
Brute: SS/Fire
Scrapper: Fire/Shield
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Whatever the last person that posts here tells you. That's going to be the best™ for sure, so just ignore everyone else and go with that last poster.
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Originally Posted by Blue_Centurion
What is the absolute best ( no budget limit ) Brute and/or Scrapper for real (arcanatime) play?
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The development team and this community deserved better than this from NC Soft. Best wishes on your search.
Katana/WP or SR
There is no singular best.
The one that solos AVs best isn't going to be the top candidate for melting huge spawns. The one that obliterates mass spawns isn't going to be the top of the list for singular hard targets. And the one that balances both is going to be somewhere in the middle on both lists.
With regards to tanking (for the brute), that just adds another layer. A Stone brute will tank better than most other brutes, but won't be able to compete in damage dealing. A Super Reflexes brute will do great against a single tough opponent since they can avoid most attacks, and have built-in +recharge, but if you put them in a large mob, the 5% chance to get hit combined with tons of attacks will quickly wear them down. p
There's too many variables to say that one particular combo is "always the best."
For brutes, SS paired with Fire, Dark or Elec and a high defense, high recharge build are likely high ranking contenders. /Invuln can be nearly untouchable with a high end build, but it lacks the quick self heal and the damage aura that the others have. Defense-based sets are harder to max out, because it's far easier to add defense to a resistance set than to add resistance to a defense set. Electric, Claws, Street Justice and Titan Weapons are all viable options for primaries, but SS is probably the best in most situations.
For Scrappers, Dark/Shield/(an epic with a fast AoE) is probably my top pick. Strong single target attacks plus the damage buffs from Soul Drain and Against All Odds, Softcapped defense and moderate resists, a heal in the primary, and by walking into the middle of a group and hitting Soul Drain, Shield Charge, Fire Ball, you're likely to wipe out all the minions and most of the Lts, especially with Musculature and Reactive Incarnate powers.
Fire/Shield will do more damage and better AoE, but will need to rely on the Medicine Pool, Inspirations, or Rebirth Destiny for healing when things go downhill.
@Roderick
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Originally Posted by Blue_Centurion
What is the absolute best ( no budget limit ) Brute and/or Scrapper for real (arcanatime) play?
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Simple as that - for one player that will be a fully IOd out Sheep Melee build with all incarnate slots possible available and at tier 4 for someone else that could be a brand new level 1 which will eventually have all the prestige sprints 6 slotted for end red and the only attack powers being their tier 1 and brawl.
Mind of Gaia lvl 50 Defiant's first Mind/Storm 'troller.
Deadly Doc 50 Dark/Dark Corr
and lots more on Pinnacle,Union and Defiant
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This. You really have to specify what activities you want to be 'best' at.
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Originally Posted by Roderick
There is no singular best.
The one that solos AVs best isn't going to be the top candidate for melting huge spawns. The one that obliterates mass spawns isn't going to be the top of the list for singular hard targets. And the one that balances both is going to be somewhere in the middle on both lists. With regards to tanking (for the brute), that just adds another layer. A Stone brute will tank better than most other brutes, but won't be able to compete in damage dealing. A Super Reflexes brute will do great against a single tough opponent since they can avoid most attacks, and have built-in +recharge, but if you put them in a large mob, the 5% chance to get hit combined with tons of attacks will quickly wear them down. p There's too many variables to say that one particular combo is "always the best." For brutes, SS paired with Fire, Dark or Elec and a high defense, high recharge build are likely high ranking contenders. /Invuln can be nearly untouchable with a high end build, but it lacks the quick self heal and the damage aura that the others have. Defense-based sets are harder to max out, because it's far easier to add defense to a resistance set than to add resistance to a defense set. Electric, Claws, Street Justice and Titan Weapons are all viable options for primaries, but SS is probably the best in most situations. For Scrappers, Dark/Shield/(an epic with a fast AoE) is probably my top pick. Strong single target attacks plus the damage buffs from Soul Drain and Against All Odds, Softcapped defense and moderate resists, a heal in the primary, and by walking into the middle of a group and hitting Soul Drain, Shield Charge, Fire Ball, you're likely to wipe out all the minions and most of the Lts, especially with Musculature and Reactive Incarnate powers. Fire/Shield will do more damage and better AoE, but will need to rely on the Medicine Pool, Inspirations, or Rebirth Destiny for healing when things go downhill. |
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@Inquisitor
The same activities he always is looking for every time he cycles through this post after he finishes a project: To be the best.
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On topic it's ss/fire. It really is.
Weight training: Because you'll never hear someone lament "If only I were weaker, I could have saved them."
What is the absolute best ( no budget limit ) Brute and/or Scrapper for real (arcanatime) play?