Pulling Rommy from his Nictus buddies


JayboH

 

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I didn't know where else to post this, but i've been attempting solo-itfs on my dom so i figured I'd post here. So, I've attempted +4/x8 solo itfs twice now and twice i've failed. Getting through the missions is easy enough, i could probably do it without deaths if I was a bit lucky and played better, but that's irrelevant. Point is, I can't take out Rommy when he's attached to his nictus friends. I've failed at him twice now. I think if I could separate him to prevent him from being healed and me from being attacked by the nictus/nictus spawns, I could probably succeed. I've yet to find some glitch in the terrain to separate them. The roof no longer works.

I've heard that if I attack and pull him immediately after the cutscene, then he can be separated... Anyone know more about this? Is it possible? How immediate is immediately? A couple of seconds? Do I still need to keep him in range of the nictus so they can be defeated when he is? I'd hate to take him down only to fail at killing his three nictus because they can't be separated. Any advice anyone?


 

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A lot of that tactic comes to dumb luck, BUT, I'm willing to argue that if you have to flat-out exploit that fight (which that arguably is), you're not truly soloing the ITF. But, that's just my opinion on the matter. You're exploiting a fight you're not capable of completing solo, which is /shrug.

But yeah, it's a dumb-luck thing I've only managed to do once. There might be a for-sure way to do it.


 

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Fair enough. Thanks for your opinion.


 

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How about this strategy? Desummoning my pet and creepers, so there is no AoE. Then hitting the spawn with spore burst to sleep the whole bunch. Then jumping in and spamming single target attacks on Rommy until he goes down, remembering to refresh spore burst as soon as it is up. Think that might work? Does Rommy or the Nictuses have any sleep protection?


 

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rommy can be slept, when i solo ITFs i usually perma confuse rommy to kill off his nictus since i usually run with a mind dom

i dont think you would be able to perma confuse him with seeds of confusion cause its too long rech and the nictus are essentially immune to confuse


 

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If you're gonna sleep them, I think you should be able to pull Romi away from the nictus while they are asleep. This works on the FP in the LRSF.


 

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Originally Posted by Necrotech_Master View Post
rommy can be slept, when i solo ITFs i usually perma confuse rommy to kill off his nictus since i usually run with a mind dom

i dont think you would be able to perma confuse him with seeds of confusion cause its too long rech and the nictus are essentially immune to confuse
I don't know if they are; I know that when I've done ITFs on my Plant/Fire and I spam Seeds of Confusion on Rommy + nictus ball, the team ends up getting hit by a LOT of Twilight Grasp heals.

Maybe mag 6 isn't enough to do it, but if you have the contagious confusion proc in the power you can get a lot more magnitude then that if they are all so close together.


 

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From my experience, they can be slept and confused, rommy and the nicti. But they all have regular AV level confuse protection, so with seeds, it's only when their protection/purple triangles is down. However, I don't think they have sleep protection (similar to any other AV). Sometimes the sleep works, and sometimes it doesn't. Hence my idea to sleep the whole group and attack rommy without any interference.

I tried sleeping the nicti and pulling rommy away, but it's too difficult for me so far to switch targets from Rommy to the Nicti to keep them slept when they are far away. If they wake, they immediately latch back onto rommy, no matter the distance. That might be fixable with more practice.


 

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I've thought about bringing a dark/ dom to try perma-confusing Rommy, but I'm not really sure if it can be done on a lvl 54 AV. Maybe... I'd rather exhaust my attempts to complete this challenge for me with my plant/psi dom though before I give up and roll another toon more capable of doing it.


 

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Another relevant question I have is whether I can perma sleep the nicti at all. My spore burst is up in 11.65s and sleeps for (mag3:37.5/mag3:56.3). If the nicti don't resist sleep mez at all, I might be able to perma sleep them, even at lvl 54. But I'm really not sure.


 

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Originally Posted by Machariel View Post
I don't know if they are; I know that when I've done ITFs on my Plant/Fire and I spam Seeds of Confusion on Rommy + nictus ball, the team ends up getting hit by a LOT of Twilight Grasp heals.

Maybe mag 6 isn't enough to do it, but if you have the contagious confusion proc in the power you can get a lot more magnitude then that if they are all so close together.
the nictus themselves have mag 500 protection to confuse, however, since they are considered pets of rommy, if you confuse rommy then the pets also become confused


 

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Originally Posted by Necrotech_Master View Post
the nictus themselves have mag 500 protection to confuse, however, since they are considered pets of rommy, if you confuse rommy then the pets also become confused
Really? I wonder if I can do it on my permadom dark/dark/psi dom.


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Sure fire way: Use Teleport

Get to edge of stairs from left or right path, just before cut scene trigger. Make sure you can reach the spawn point of romi with your teleport. Teleport to said spawn point, you effectively trigger romi before cut scene and thus nicti don't attach.

Not sure if bug or not, so at some point in the future this may no longer work. As it sits right now this definatly works. Also I have had a few friends actually manage to super leap and fall to spawn point, but this is not reliable and was mostly dumb luck.


 

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Originally Posted by OneFrigidWitch View Post
Really? I wonder if I can do it on my permadom dark/dark/psi dom.
if you dont aggro him then most of the fluffies wont do anything anyway, the heal nictus will constantly be popping off heals but as long as you dont aggro him before the confuse then most of the fluffies wont do anything


 

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Originally Posted by JayboH View Post
I thought I heard that if you have creepers that Nictus spawn LIKE MAD.
they have potential to, the one fluffy that spawns stuff is essentially an AV ranked mobile cyst crystal, they both use the same power which generates unbound nictus per every pet and player thats within the range of the aoe pulse


 

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Originally Posted by Necrotech_Master View Post
the nictus themselves have mag 500 protection to confuse, however, since they are considered pets of rommy, if you confuse rommy then the pets also become confused
well there's also the boss/minion/LT essences that spawn which is probably what I'm confusing.

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Originally Posted by JayboH View Post
I thought I heard that if you have creepers that Nictus spawn LIKE MAD.
Well if Nictus spawn for every player & player pet nearby...

And creepers spawn for every enemy nearby...

you get some pretty fierce proliferation of both groups


 

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OP: Perma Drain Psyche, layer a resistance APP/PPP shield with softcapped s/l defense via set bonuses/pool toggles, use the Nicti and Rommy to saturate your Drain Psyche, get decent ST DPS chain, laugh at them while they try to kill you through your layered def/res/regen, and laugh at them while they try to out-heal your perma-regen debuff on Rommy. I guess you could use your primary set too if you really wanted to.