As the only 'prestige' sprint worth a darn, it would fill me with rage to see the hoi polloi enjoy its attractions!
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Okay, not really- if they can make a few bucks off it, I say fire away.
It helps make all that running around at the low levels more bearable- jogging around Atlas is way less stylish than POWER SLIDING around Atlas.
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Despite the fact that virtually everything else in the game that used to be "exclusive" is now available via other means the Prestige Power Slide will likely remain exclusive for the time being. According to rumor there is a particular Dev who thinks that the power should remain exclusive forever. Why it needs to stay that way when virtually nothing else has I have no idea. As long as that particular Dev stands in the way it's apparently never going to be released. 
I have the power and use it once in a while on a lark. From my point of view it wouldn't upset me in the least if the Devs decided to start selling it in the Paragon Market so that other people could enjoy it. *shrugs*
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This exact suggestion has been made a few times since Freedom and the Paragon Market debuted. A search for "Prestige Power Slide" will turn up at least a couple of threads.
Basically, it comes down to what Lothic said, although there are a half-dozen or so items in the same boat -- Slide is hardly the only exclusive item not currently available on the market. The Arachnos cape, an alternate Arachnos chest emblem, the Cape of the Four Winds, the Seven Stars chest insignia, and the Wisps aura are also unavailable, off the top of my head, and soon we'll probably be able to add every item in the Salute to Statesman loyalty pack to that list. However, as I mentioned in the other threads on this topic, as someone who has the Slide power, my personal feelings are that if there's a demand (and obviously there is), then they should feel free to sell it, "exclusive" or not. I care that I do have it, not that others don't.
Or, alternately, remove the pink foot glow and release a new sliding Sprint power -- that way the old version is still "exclusive," but other people can have a slide power too. (And I might even buy an "effects-less" version even though I have the original, since it would almost certainly look better with the modern game's path auras.)
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Basically, it comes down to what Lothic said, although there are a half-dozen or so items in the same boat -- Slide is hardly the only exclusive item not currently available on the market. The Arachnos cape, an alternate Arachnos chest emblem, the Cape of the Four Winds, the Seven Stars chest insignia, and the Wisps aura are also unavailable, off the top of my head, and soon we'll probably be able to add every item in the Salute to Statesman loyalty pack to that list.
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Originally Posted by Lothic
Yeah there are a few things still left in that boat. But to be honest I was actually talking about all the Vet Award stuff that used to be exclusive but now you can simply pay for if you want it all instantly. When you add Vet Awards to the list of all the other things that have been "de-exclusivified" then you might better understand what I was getting at.
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Specifically, the devs have said (and have stuck to) the "Nothing you paid extra for will be released free." (Which does include Paragon Rewards tokens and points, as those are "given away" for vips.)
Didn't pay extra for Justice/Sinister - those are in the market.
Didn't pay extra for the preorder helms - those are in the market.
Didn't pay extra for Mac pack (and those were released as a sale pack anyway.)
You *did* pay extra (at least initially) for Collectors Edition items:
Prestige Power Slide
Cape of the Four Winds
Arachnos cape.
I wouldn't hold my breath on seeing those in the market. (I wouldn't be upset if they *were,* mind you, even as someone who paid for those specific editions.)
I don't necessarily agree with the devs on that, in this case. I honestly doubt anyone paid extra for a copy of the game JUST for Power Slide; it's a bit silly to assume that anyone would be permanently hurt by releasing it on the market. No one will quit the game over it, anyway.
It's a much better alternative than making it an unlock or free, because either way you slice it (whether you paid for a special edition/pack or bought it on the market), you still paid extra to get a hold of a minor extra.
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You *did* pay extra (at least initially) for Collectors Edition items:
Prestige Power Slide Cape of the Four Winds Arachnos cape. I wouldn't hold my breath on seeing those in the market. (I wouldn't be upset if they *were,* mind you, even as someone who paid for those specific editions.) |
It wouldn't bug me to see all that stuff show up on the market- I've never found the right character for the Cape of the Four Winds, why shouldn't someone else get a shot?
Although I did use it on my joke character Veteran Rewards Man, composed entirely of costume bits (then) unavailable to the masses...
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No one will quit the game over it, anyway.
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Originally Posted by Runo
I don't necessarily agree with the devs on that, in this case. I honestly doubt anyone paid extra for a copy of the game JUST for Power Slide; it's a bit silly to assume that anyone would be permanently hurt by releasing it on the market. No one will quit the game over it, anyway.
It's a much better alternative than making it an unlock or free, because either way you slice it (whether you paid for a special edition/pack or bought it on the market), you still paid extra to get a hold of a minor extra. |
Actually I did pay extra for the Hero Gear Kit back at launch primarily for Power Slide. I'm probably not the only one that did so, however with that in mind I would LOVE LOVE LOVE to see the in game perks from that make thier way onto the Paragon Market.
This game has always been about gioving people options to customize their characters. Stuf fliek this is a bit pof extra customization and I wouldn't mind if the in game items I had purchased were made avaialble for purchase again.
Also find a way to get Old Storm Kick back in the game some how silly as the animation was.
I've said it before and I'll say it again...
As someone who bought the collector's edition, and a few Hero Gear Kits for friends, I absolutely want them to release the Prestige Slide (and the Cape of the Four Winds) on the market.
Options, options... open up the options.
And... the new people can "pay extra" for these items as well.
What's so exclusive about something that you can still find for sale anyway? 
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Also find a way to get Old Storm Kick back in the game some how silly as the animation was.
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The one/two combo of Storm Kick/Flurry was tremendously entertaining for my teammates....
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I don't recall ever hearing this blamed on a particular dev. What I heard was that someone asked Zwill about it, and Posi responded that certain people would have to stop working for the company before the issue of Power Slide being re-released could ever be brought up.|
Originally Posted by Lothic
Despite the fact that virtually everything else in the game that used to be "exclusive" is now available via other means the Prestige Power Slide will likely remain exclusive for the time being. According to rumor there is a particular Dev who thinks that the power should remain exclusive forever. Why it needs to stay that way when virtually nothing else has I have no idea. As long as that particular Dev stands in the way it's apparently never going to be released.
I have the power and use it once in a while on a lark. From my point of view it wouldn't upset me in the least if the Devs decided to start selling it in the Paragon Market so that other people could enjoy it. *shrugs* |
Now having worked for a few corporations in my time that sounds suspiciously like the type of responses lower level employees get stuck with when people higher up in management makes a "policy" decision and has the pull to keep their name out of circulation even tho the people forced to give the answer know exactly who are responsible.
Oh and I'm all for giving people power slide.
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Originally Posted by Runo
I honestly doubt anyone paid extra for a copy of the game JUST for Power Slide;
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Now, this is a combination of a gated badge (and badgers are rabid) AND a nifty sprint power, and a cape that most people forget about so it's pretty inconsequential in the scheme of things, and some physical stuff that is mostly out of date junk. So it's not entirely Slide's fault that the price is so high.
But people regularly pay more now than when the box was brand new on the shelves, sometimes twice as much, for three fake items.
Don't assume things about people's weird quirks when it comes to this game and its 'stuff'.
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Okay... speaking as someone who must have joined after that point... what was the 'old' storm kick animation? Is there any vids of it?
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I don't know why Dink thinks she's not as sexy as Jay was. In 5 posts she's already upstaged his entire career.
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If someone is going to pay that much for a badge and an extra power, that was of their own accord and they were fully aware of this -- it's also terrible reasoning not to make them available on the market. Following that logic, no game developer should ever make a game's special/collectors edition items available outside of actually buying the CE because people are still out there buying collectibles from those editions for hundreds of dollars. It's a fallible proposition, at best.|
Originally Posted by Aggelakis
Don't assume things about people's weird quirks when it comes to this game and its 'stuff'.
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Anyone that quits the game over something that frivolous is going just a little overboard, frankly.
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Make it so! (for 1200 points each "gear kit." More if you have to. 2000 for both.)
I have them both and really don't care if someone else pays for them. Even if they have the in game stuff, if I need to feel "special" about having bought them, I can take out the heroclix and go "whoosh" with them around the room, then look at the comic and art book.
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I didn't buy the DVD edition because when I bought the game...
A. There was no DVD edition out yet.
B. I didn't have a DVD-ROM drive anyways, lol.
I can understand wanting to keep the specific Prestige Slide power sacred to collectors edition purchasers, but I've also suggested in the past a very simple compromise: remove the blue-purplish cloud effects, or change them to be gray or something. That way the collectors get to keep their own special version, and people that want a sliding sprint power can have one. Win win.
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Originally Posted by Not_Rhino
I can understand wanting to keep the specific Prestige Slide power sacred to collectors edition purchasers, but I've also suggested in the past a very simple compromise: remove the blue-purplish cloud effects, or change them to be gray or something. That way the collectors get to keep their own special version, and people that want a sliding sprint power can have one. Win win.
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Frankly I think people need to get past this shortsighted idea that "exclusivity" always implies permanence. I think the only "win" here is to have this power be sold in the Paragon Market and let the tiny handful of people who might actually be upset by that get over it. This power has been exclusive for many -years- now. As far as I'm concerned if there are newer people who want to give this game more money for it then I see no good reason to prevent that.
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well, when marketing presents something as SPECIAL or COLLECTORS or whatever they are making a promise of exclusivity, usually to justify a higher price or encourage extra purchases.|
Originally Posted by Runo
If someone is going to pay that much for a badge and an extra power, that was of their own accord and they were fully aware of this -- it's also terrible reasoning not to make them available on the market. Following that logic, no game developer should ever make a game's special/collectors edition items available outside of actually buying the CE because people are still out there buying collectibles from those editions for hundreds of dollars. It's a fallible proposition, at best.
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The kind of players those sorts of sales pitches are aimed at are *exactly* the sort who are liable to flip right out if this thing they purchased with an expectation of limited availability is suddenly everywhere.
And the DVD edition did make a point of its 'exclusive' content.
While I wouldn't much care if they sold the stuff ala carte, I can see why some folk would be upset and I can understand why you'd let that sleeping dog lie from a dev POV.
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Lothic has a solid point; exclusivity is seldom permanent, and it's been quite a long time for the players who wanted to keep these items exclusive have had them that way for a long time. I'm also pretty sure that there are a lot more players who would be happy having access to these items on the market than players who would flip out over the loss of their exclusive access to the items.|
Originally Posted by Nethergoat
The kind of players those sorts of sales pitches are aimed at are *exactly* the sort who are liable to flip right out if this thing they purchased with an expectation of limited availability is suddenly everywhere.
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And to be brutally honest, any player that DOES flip out and quits a free game because they lost exclusive access to frivolous items is probably not a player I'd want to have playing around me to begin with.
I think Not_Rhino's suggestion is a great happy medium, though. On one hand, keeping the items exclusive forever is pretty dumb. On the other, offering an alternative coloration/animation/what have you on the market is a good way to keep it relatively unique and still satisfy the players that would like to see it on the market.
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Originally Posted by Nethergoat
well, when marketing presents something as SPECIAL or COLLECTORS or whatever they are making a promise of exclusivity, usually to justify a higher price or encourage extra purchases.
The kind of players those sorts of sales pitches are aimed at are *exactly* the sort who are liable to flip right out if this thing they purchased with an expectation of limited availability is suddenly everywhere. And the DVD edition did make a point of its 'exclusive' content. While I wouldn't much care if they sold the stuff ala carte, I can see why some folk would be upset and I can understand why you'd let that sleeping dog lie from a dev POV. |
But the word "exlcusive" has absolutely no implied connotation of something being -permanently- exclusive.
Most people who buy things like that for games like this let themselves be fooled into thinking that the period of "exclusivity" is forever. But I'll task anyone to find any wording in these offers that make it unequivocally clear that any of these offers will ever remain exclusive FOREVER.
The fact that this Prestige Power Slide has been exclusive for a number of years more than satisfies any obligation Paragon Studios had for selling us "exclusive" items. They promised us exclusive things and that's exactly what we got, for a very reasonable period of time.
But as far as I'm concerned that time has long since passed for this...
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see also: "(console) exclusive". Does that mean the game in question will never be available for other consoles and/or PCs? Usually, no; just that there's a delay of a few months.
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Ok,
here is my humble request devs. Please make prestige power slide available in the market for purchase just like all the other travel powers.
I have an Ice/Ice/Ice dom that would love to have it.
Thank you !