Best Thing to Single-Slot in "HEALTH"?
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Aggelakis,
Posted on: 2012-02-14 24:31 in Player Questions
Procs in an auto power tick every 10 seconds, which means it constantly reapplies its 120 second duration. Effectively, this means it's always on.
Miracle and Numina procs are very popular.
Performance Shifter is also very popular because it grants an amount of actual endurance instead of +recovery, which gets around any -recovery debuffs you may have on you.
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Originally Posted by Dispari
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Except that Performance Shifter would go into Stamina, not Health.
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Originally Posted by Aggelakis
Performance Shifter is also very popular because it grants an amount of actual endurance instead of +recovery, which gets around any -recovery debuffs you may have on you.
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@Roderick
THANK YOU! That was the info I've been missing for quite some time.
I would honestly say the best proc to slot would depend on how well it stacks with your existing attributes.
In some cases I find it more cost effective and beneficial to just slot a level 50 Health IO.
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Originally Posted by Roderick
Except that Performance Shifter would go into Stamina, not Health.
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Originally Posted by Dispari
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There isn't really a 'best' thing to slot in it. It kind of depends on what you need most.
If you need regeneration, then a regenerative tissue +regen is the best choice.
If you need recovery, then Miracle +recovery is the best choice.
If you need a little of both, then Numina's Convalescence +regen/recovery is best.
Neither the regenerative tissue or the numina's are significantly better for regeneration than a single level 50 heal IO though.
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Yep. And, to be honest, if the character isn't having endurance problems and isn't a tank, I sometimes leave the slot empty.
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Originally Posted by firespray
There isn't really a 'best' thing to slot in it. It kind of depends on what you need most.
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Originally Posted by firespray
There isn't really a 'best' thing to slot in it. It kind of depends on what you need most.
If you need regeneration, then a regenerative tissue +regen is the best choice. If you need recovery, then Miracle +recovery is the best choice. If you need a little of both, then Numina's Convalescence +regen/recovery is best. Neither the regenerative tissue or the numina's are significantly better for regeneration than a single level 50 heal IO though. |
For a good Regeneration value with an efficient use of slots, Numina's Unique + Numina's Heal gives a grand total of 48.96%, counting the increase to base power, which would be better than Numina's Unique + Regen Tissue Unique. For the best regeneration out of 3 slots, add the Regen Tissue on top of that.
If you need a lot of both, you can slot Numina's Unique + Numina Heal and Miracle Unique + Miracle Heal
This gets you 32% Regeneration and 27.5% Recovery in IO bonuses, and 79.90% Enhancement Value for the Health power assuming max level, non-boosted Heal Enhancements, putting Health at 72.16% Regeneration.
If you're really going nuts, you can tack on Regenetative Tissue +Regen and a level 30 Health/End or Health/Rech (doesn't matter which) to get 4% Move Speed, 25% more Regeneration from that unique, and increase the Enhancement value to 95.41%, putting Health's Regeneration value at 78.62%.
Personally, I frequently just add a single slot to Health to get the Miracle and Numina's procs both slotted, but I tend to end up with builds that benefit a lot from the Recovery (for reference, the two procs with no other slotting give you 25% Recovery, 20% Regeneration, and no enhancement on Health, leaving it at base value of 40.2%).
Edit: Note that my numbers were taken from Mids, which appears to disagree with the game on the base value of Health, showing 40.2%, where the game shows 40.00%.
Edit2: Actually I found what was happening in Mids... oddly enough, if you slot a Numina +Regen/Recovery into Health, the Regen value Health displays changes from 40% to 40.2%.
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I24 Proc Chance = (Enhanced Recharge + Activation Time) * (Current PPM * 1.25) / 60*(1 + .75*(.15*Radius - 0.011*Radius*(360-Arc)/30)) Single Target Radius = 0. AoE Non-Cone Arc = 360.
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For a good Regeneration value with an efficient use of slots, Numina's Unique + Numina's Heal gives a grand total of 48.96%, counting the increase to base power, which would be better than Numina's Unique + Regen Tissue Unique. For the best regeneration out of 3 slots, add the Regen Tissue on top of that. |
How do you do that when Health is single-slotted?
The OP asked what to single-slot in Health.
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You don't. Which is why the quoted text clearly indicates that it doesn't retain the original single-slot stipulation.|
Originally Posted by Texas Justice
I'm curious.
How do you do that when Health is single-slotted? The OP asked what to single-slot in Health. |
It was information that I posted for the benefit of a player who clearly does not know a great deal about the Invention system, to give them some options to think about when looking at what they want for their character.
So, kindly take your attitude and shove it.
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I24 Proc Chance = (Enhanced Recharge + Activation Time) * (Current PPM * 1.25) / 60*(1 + .75*(.15*Radius - 0.011*Radius*(360-Arc)/30)) Single Target Radius = 0. AoE Non-Cone Arc = 360.
I was thinking "Miracle: + Recovery", but I dont understand the following: "...adds a 15% bonus to endurance recovery rate for 120 seconds".
When doe the 120 seconds start? Does this IO need to be slotted in a healing power that is triggered in order for it to operate?
What might be a better option for a single slot "HEALTH: Inherent fitness" enhancement?
Thanks in advance!