What's with the Lost 2 lt spawn?


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I got a lvl 21 Talos radio mission (slight chance it was a hero tip mission). I am playing at +0/x0

The first 4 spawns I ran into were an anathema and a headman. I was rapidly held and taken out twice, so I auto-completed it. Both guys in the spawn were lt's (I am playing without bosses, so the Anathema might have been supposed to be a boss).

I know in Faultline there is a mission with a ton of anathema's in spawns, but running into 2 lt's one of which mezzes was a bit much.


 

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Hmn, sounds like one of the rare cases where the spawned gets its programming knotted and has a brain fart like that. Sadly it happens, and then doesn't again for ages. If it had been, say, Montague's Midnighter arc, I KNOW that that one spams you with Boss/LT class mobs a helluva lot. Since it's a radio mission, it sounds like pure bad luck of the draw.


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So I'm not sure the exact mechanics behind it, but in simple terms, every spawn has a "points total" attached to them. Every individual critter has a "point value" attached to it. A spawn is filled with critters until the combined points value matches the points total for that spawn.

Most enemy groups have a logical progression (for one hero: three minions; one minion/one lieut; zero or one minion/one boss). IIRC, the Lost have some weird lopsided value that sometimes ends up with weird combinations of critters in a spawn. I've seen two lieut Lost spawns more times than I can count.


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All the List missions I ran through the last few days had over half their spawns be just a single boss, at +0x2. I know that that's a possible spawn variant for most factions, but it seems odd that I'd have to run through six spawns of just that before I reach anything else, and then it'd be back to that two spawns later.

I thought boss spawns were supposed to be rarer?


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Welcome to me complaining ever since they broke the spawn code in I13 so it completely ignores how stuff worked and decides that +0x2 means "throw spawns of 2 lts and 3 minions all at +1 all mission at me"


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Welcome to me complaining ever since they broke the spawn code in I13 so it completely ignores how stuff worked and decides that +0x2 means "throw spawns of 2 lts and 3 minions all at +1 all mission at me"
The "new" difficulty options do indeed seem to have a much larger range of spawn sizes for the same difficulty settings than the old ones. You can get anything from seemingly-unreasonably large spawns at +1 to the mission one time and then quite small spawns at +0. The old settings seemed to offer much more consistent difficulty and were much easier to figure out what to set them at.


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Haven't Lost missions always had larger spawn sizes than other enemy groups? Isn't that one of the reasons they tend to give slightly more XP/Inf than other enemies of that level?


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Imagine a mission with NOTHING in it, excepting double-spawns of Anathemas.


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Imagine a mission with NOTHING in it, excepting double-spawns of Anathemas.
Sounds like a trip to my in-laws.


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I think I know what happened.

Lost tend to wander around a lot after they spawn, sometimes causing two different spawns to walk up right next to each other.


 

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No. Just no. I was assisting a new player. If I run into it again I'll take a screen shot. It's exactly as I said. There are no minions or bosses anywhere in the mission. All the spawns were paired lieutenants.


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No. Just no. I was assisting a new player. If I run into it again I'll take a screen shot. It's exactly as I said. There are no minions or bosses anywhere in the mission. All the spawns were paired lieutenants.
RNG allows this to happen from time to time. Again, Lost spawns are always +1 to spawn size, meaning that a typical spawn is 1 Lt, 2 minions or 4 minions. But it can also be 2 Lts, or 1 minion and a boss. The RNG sometimes allows for you to have a whole mission full of the 2 Lt spawns.


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On almost every new character I make, heading to Faultline at level 15 is a top priority. Why? Set missions to x2, run through them fighting all and only the single-boss spawns, effectively powerlevel yourself. Lost bosses are as easy as they are profitable. I love it.


 

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On almost every new character I make, heading to Faultline at level 15 is a top priority. Why? Set missions to x2, run through them fighting all and only the single-boss spawns, effectively powerlevel yourself. Lost bosses are as easy as they are profitable. I love it.
you must have mezz protection


 

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Yeah, there's nothing easy about Lost bosses, and at level 20+, the lieutenants become irritating as well. Especially for controllers.