Characters who flourish without Hasten


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Originally Posted by PleaseRecycle View Post
BF -> AV is really close to as good as BF -> AS -> SS for aoe damage and slightly worse for single target and requires vastly less recharge.
If you have enough recharge for BF -> AS -> SS -> AS for ST, you also have enough recharge for BF -> TE -> SS for AoE, which I believe easily trumps the AV chain and probably the Sweep chain as well.


Mains (Freedom) @Auroxis
Auroxis - Emp/Rad/Power Defender Pylon Video Soloing an AV
Pelvic Thunder - SS/Elec/Mu Brute
Sorajin - Elec/Nin Stalker
Neuropain - Sonic/Mental/Elec Blaster

 

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I guess the damage difference is bigger if you consider proc chances, which I was admittedly not doing for some reason, but in and of itself the top chain has sweep up a little less than 50% as often and subjected to double stacked blinding feint whereas the AV chain has single blinding feint and 50% bonus damage 85% of the time. Before procs, that's really not that bad.

Making a chain of TE didn't even occur to me because I find that power super freaking dorky.


 

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My mind dom does not have hasten. Managing clicks for both hasten and domination was a bother. I have perma dom without it, and I like the simplicity.


 

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Originally Posted by PleaseRecycle View Post
I guess the damage difference is bigger if you consider proc chances, which I was admittedly not doing for some reason, but in and of itself the top chain has sweep up a little less than 50% as often and subjected to double stacked blinding feint whereas the AV chain has single blinding feint and 50% bonus damage 85% of the time. Before procs, that's really not that bad.
That probably accounts for a decent chunk of my perceived difference in the chains, as all my attacks have ToD, Mako's or Oblit procs in them as part of seeking out the +def from those sets.

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Making a chain of TE didn't even occur to me because I find that power super freaking dorky.
Heh. I use TE in what I suppose could be considered a "chain" when I really want to clear minions faster, but I wouldn't run around claiming that much.


Blue
American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA

 

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Originally Posted by Auroxis View Post
If you have enough recharge for BF -> AS -> SS -> AS for ST, you also have enough recharge for BF -> TE -> SS for AoE, which I believe easily trumps the AV chain and probably the Sweep chain as well.
The Vital Strike is somewhat a healthy bonus. I would have to check this ingame.


He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.

 

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I think I use Hasten on one toon, and that's so I can heal my meat shields faster.


 

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not 100% sure yet, but I suspect my MM won't be needing hasten.


 

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Originally Posted by MikeRobe View Post
not 100% sure yet, but I suspect my MM won't be needing hasten.
No AT or power set "needs" hasten to do the regular game content period. However, there are certain things that you just cannot do without it. Concerning MM's double gang war comes to mind. That is what I would call flourishing.


The development team and this community deserved better than this from NC Soft. Best wishes on your search.

 

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I take Hasten on most toons (if I dont' want the other power pools) but often use it as a 'Oh Crap' button if I get with with alot of recharge or if the group is not steamrolling and I need to crank up performance and need some of my better powers to recharge faster. I have a troller that I'm slowing working on Perma-hasten but thats really to get the 2-RA's and Adrenaline Boost up as much as possible.