It does only work on dead teammates. As far as I know, the devs are concerned about it being overpowered if available league wide, so I don't expect it to become a league wide buff.
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The biggest problem with vengeance in an itrial is that most people immediately go to the hospital (as they generally should) without giving you more than a split second to use it.
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Overpowered? That does not make any sense considering all of the regular and incarnate powers that buff the entire league. No this was probably just an oversight and it needs attention.
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Vengeance can give 30% defense or more, for 2 minutes at a time. The longest-lasting Barrier is only that strong for 30 seconds. And Vengeance is only a pool power, after all. All the Leadership powers are only team-wide on a league, which I think is fine, there's no need for them to become three times as powerful just for joining a trial.
That said, it would be nice if you could cast Vengeance on anyone in the league, even if it still only buffed your own team.
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IDK this still is a weak argument to me considering all of the other powers regular and incarnate that go league wide and last a long time.
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Vengeance can give 30% defense or more, for 2 minutes at a time. The longest-lasting Barrier is only that strong for 30 seconds. And Vengeance is only a pool power, after all. All the Leadership powers are only team-wide on a league, which I think is fine, there's no need for them to become three times as powerful just for joining a trial.
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It's only works on you team on a incarnate Trial, which sucks because you can't target the whole league for Veng.
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Originally Posted by King_Namek
I can't seem to activate vengeance on dead league mates. Does it only work on direct teammates? If so, shouldn't it be updated for league use?
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I have no issue with the way veng currently works. Compared to the other powers in primary/secondary/pool veng would be over-powered to say the least if it was league wide. It does more than +def it does:
+def
+tohit
+damage
+resist (Fear, Disorient, Sleep, Immobilize, Hold, Confuse, Taunt, Placate)
+protect (Fear, Knockback, Knockup, Repel)
and heal (minor)
So uhh yeah WAY overpowered
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Yeah, I don't think its an oversight in the slightest. It is already a bit overpowered in its current state affecting only your team, especially if boosted with Power Boost. If it does get changed, I doubt it would be a buff.
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It's also stackable from multiple users, making it possible to stack up to HUGE bonuses if it affected the whole league.
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Well, it's only stackable if used on the same server tick, which although doable on normal teams is a bit more complicated during the chaos of an Itrial, especially since people hosp immediately. It takes a little more time to setup than people normally give it.
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The last word I heard was that it is Working As Intended and that there were no plans to change it to make it able to affect non-teammate league members. Hopeling gave the numbers, that's a large part of their decision.
Whether you think the decision to limit it to team only is weak or not, that's the reasoning we've been given and it's unlikely to change because you want it to be different.
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No, it was probably NOT an oversight. Kindly note that none of the Leadership toggles affect league-mates. It would be overpowered.
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Overpowered? That does not make any sense considering all of the regular and incarnate powers that buff the entire league. No this was probably just an oversight and it needs attention.
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It's actually designed NOT to be stackable, although it is possible to work around that.
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It's also stackable from multiple users, making it possible to stack up to HUGE bonuses if it affected the whole league.
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I can't seem to activate vengeance on dead league mates. Does it only work on direct teammates? If so, shouldn't it be updated for league use?