Did Titan weapon leak?


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Originally Posted by Energizing_Ion View Post
And this is how the rushers/exploiters (yes not really exploiting the system but...) get rewarded...they get "kudos"....
I don't see how checking the store at 12:01am Tuesday morning to see what the new item for the week is, and then buying it when you see that it's a highly-anticipated item that no one knew the release date for, can be even put in the same category as an exploit. Yeah, the devs could've deleted or locked their characters, I guess, but there was no real need to, especially since it was only 12 people.


 

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I don't see how checking the store at 12:01am Tuesday morning to see what the new item for the week is, and then buying it when you see that it's a highly-anticipated item that no one knew the release date for, can be even put in the same category as an exploit. Yeah, the devs could've deleted or locked their characters, I guess, but there was no real need to, especially since it was only 12 people.
Knowing it was not intended for purchase at that time and playing the characters anyway is technically exploiting a bug in the store. However, its not an exploit that the devs felt required a preventative or punitive response against the Dashing Dodecaweaponeers. Not all exploits rise to that level of necessary response.


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I don't see how checking the store at 12:01am Tuesday morning to see what the new item for the week is, and then buying it when you see that it's a highly-anticipated item that no one knew the release date for, can be even put in the same category as an exploit. Yeah, the devs could've deleted or locked their characters, I guess, but there was no real need to, especially since it was only 12 people.
Man...I even put a in there to try to avoid this...


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I should just note that in at least a couple of jurisdictions it's very tricky to revoke a sale you've made. Even if you didn't intend to sell it at the time, if the information provided and payment given was legit, it's very hard to take back.

I seem to recall some an instance of prices decimal points being in the wrong place (basically reducing prices by a factor of ten) and the people who bought the products at the reduced prices were allowed to keep them.

Basically, if you leak something yourself, upon your head is it.


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Basically, if you leak something yourself, upon your head is it.
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I should just note that in at least a couple of jurisdictions it's very tricky to revoke a sale you've made. Even if you didn't intend to sell it at the time, if the information provided and payment given was legit, it's very hard to take back.

I seem to recall some an instance of prices decimal points being in the wrong place (basically reducing prices by a factor of ten) and the people who bought the products at the reduced prices were allowed to keep them.

Basically, if you leak something yourself, upon your head is it.
That doesn't apply in this case, because in that case you're talking about attempting to reverse a transaction that was already completed. In this case NCSoft does not have to reverse that transaction: they could just disable Titan Weapons at any time for any reason or no reason. They could delete any characters made with that set for any reason or no reason.


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As the title suggest's, did TW get activated before time on some accounts?

I have seen various people already running around with 50's, now I know in this day an age with the various PL or farming tools within game that this is not a big achievement anymore, but I happened to look up a players info and was surprised to see that they had achieved over 900 badges, in 24 hours that would have to been nigh impossible I would have thought, so my only conclusion was they had it before.
It could be a dev.


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It could be a dev.
It could be already explained in the rest of the thread.


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So how did you know a dev was playing their personal account?
Because once he switched to his dev account and pulled TW from the store he dropped back in the channel and chatted with us for a minute. He told us he'd been on his private account, noticed our conversation, freaked out a bit, and fixed it as soon as he could. He also mentioned that the people who bought the set could keep it (we'd been wondering that after it vanished from the store and we realized it wasn't supposed to be out yet) but warned them that it was buggy in its current form so use it at your own risk. Until it vanished we weren't even sure if TW being in the store was a bug or not since we were playing right after the Tuesday patch and the notes weren't up yet, though we suspected it was since there had been no previous announcement.

(I think it was Zwillinger but I don't remember for certain.)


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Originally Posted by Positron View Post
A bunch of the design team called them the "Titan Twelve". I liked the ring to that better.

The powerset was pretty borked for those 12 players, and we were not in any rush to fix it, so kudos to someone who stuck with it and collected all those badges.
LoL You do know we made a SuperGroup with something close to that? Only 6 of us would join it under a server tho, the other 6(assuming) were afraid you Devs would nerf us or take it away. I loved the borked animations and clipping, and the mis-draw effects. Hitting enemies with an invisible sword was pretty epic. Tbh I only knew of 8 others, didn't know there were 12 of us.




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I also heard that some people bought Staff Melee as well? Is this true?
: ) and it's borked to atm. Sweet animations when they actually work, but yes even fewer (I'm guessing or pretty sure of..) grabbed that since it was open for less than a couple of minutes.


 

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That doesn't apply in this case, because in that case you're talking about attempting to reverse a transaction that was already completed. In this case NCSoft does not have to reverse that transaction: they could just disable Titan Weapons at any time for any reason or no reason. They could delete any characters made with that set for any reason or no reason.
Whilst I'm pretty sure there's clauses in their Terms of Service (or name of their choice) to allow them these powers, it would be a very poor business decision to use these powers on 12 people that just happened to buy the item before it was taken off the shelves again.

It'd be a community relations nightmare to handle once news got out, and they'd have to spend more time and effort to put it right with the community to avoid losing faith.

Much easier to just let those 12 keep it, and possibly offer an 'upgrade' to the fixed version at a later time.


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Whilst I'm pretty sure there's clauses in their Terms of Service (or name of their choice) to allow them these powers, it would be a very poor business decision to use these powers on 12 people that just happened to buy the item before it was taken off the shelves again.

It'd be a community relations nightmare to handle once news got out, and they'd have to spend more time and effort to put it right with the community to avoid losing faith.

Much easier to just let those 12 keep it, and possibly offer an 'upgrade' to the fixed version at a later time.

It updated for me at least once before it was offically put on sale.


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It updated for me at least once before it was offically put on sale.
Yeah and I still hate you for managing to be quick enough to grab it early *shakes fist* even if it was all bugged to hell and back when you got it.


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Yeah and I still hate you for managing to be quick enough to grab it early *shakes fist* even if it was all bugged to hell and back when you got it.

Oh yes, it had some sweet bugs, like jumping forward with the weapon drawn made my little girl grunt like a big beefy man.

That was a fun one.


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