The big thing about you dying so quick on incarnate trials is that 45% is not the soft-cap, somewhere around 59% is IIRC. I say going redside and picking up scorpion shield is the way to go. I played around with mids for a bit and here's something I came up with. It has incarnate level soft capped defense to smashing/lethal/energy and regular soft cap to ranged and negative. Also it has perma hasten and less than a sec downtime of heat loss giving you unlimited end and making room for Assault. It's more expensive but I think it's worth it. Also I did take out one range out of BIB but it doesn't decrease the range by much.
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Level 50 Magic Defender
Primary Power Set: Cold Domination
Secondary Power Set: Ice Blast
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Flight
Ancillary Pool: Mace Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Ice Shield -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 1: Ice Bolt -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(3), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(3), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(5), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(7)
Level 2: Ice Blast -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(7), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(9), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(9), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(11), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(11)
Level 4: Frost Breath -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(34), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(36), Posi-Dmg/Rng(36), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(37)
Level 6: Glacial Shield -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 8: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(13)
Level 10: Aim -- GSFC-ToHit(A), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(15), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(15), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(17), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(17), GSFC-Build%(19)
Level 12: Arctic Fog -- RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(A), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(13), RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg(43), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(43), RedFtn-Def(50), RedFtn-EndRdx(50)
Level 14: Boxing -- Stpfy-Acc/Rchg(A), Stpfy-EndRdx/Stun(19), Stpfy-Acc/EndRdx(21), Stpfy-Stun/Rng(21), Stpfy-Acc/Stun/Rchg(23), Stpfy-KB%(27)
Level 16: Freeze Ray -- UbrkCons-Hold/Rchg(A), UbrkCons-Acc/Hold/Rchg(29), UbrkCons-Acc/Rchg(31), UbrkCons-EndRdx/Hold(31), UbrkCons-Dam%(33)
Level 18: Benumb -- Acc-I(A), RechRdx-I(27), RechRdx-I(29)
Level 20: Ice Storm -- Ragnrk-Dmg(A), Ragnrk-Dmg/Rchg(33), Ragnrk-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), Ragnrk-Dmg/EndRdx(34), Ragnrk-Knock%(34)
Level 22: Tough -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), GA-3defTpProc(23)
Level 24: Weave -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), HO:Enzym(25), HO:Enzym(25)
Level 26: Sleet -- Achilles-ResDeb%(A), LdyGrey-Rchg/EndRdx(43), UndDef-Rchg/EndRdx(45)
Level 28: Bitter Ice Blast -- Apoc-Dmg/Rchg(A), Apoc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37), Apoc-Acc/Rchg(37), Apoc-Dmg/EndRdx(40), Apoc-Dam%(40), Range-I(42)
Level 30: Maneuvers -- HO:Enzym(A), HO:Enzym(31)
Level 32: Heat Loss -- Efficacy-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(48), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg(48), RechRdx-I(48), RechRdx-I(50)
Level 35: Hover -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), HO:Enzym(36)
Level 38: Blizzard -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(39), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(39), Posi-Dmg/Rng(39), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(40)
Level 41: Scorpion Shield -- HO:Enzym(A)
Level 44: Fly -- Zephyr-ResKB(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(45)
Level 47: Afterburner -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 49: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 0: Freedom Phalanx Reserve
Level 0: Portal Jockey
Level 0: Task Force Commander
Level 0: The Atlas Medallion
Level 50: Nerve Radial Paragon
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Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(42), P'Shift-End%(42)
Level 1: Brawl -- Hectmb-Dmg(A), Hectmb-Dmg/Rchg(45), Hectmb-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(46), Hectmb-Acc/Rchg(46), Hectmb-Dam%(46)
Level 1: Sprint -- ULeap-Stlth(A)
Level 1: Vigilance
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
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Elec/Cold Troller AV/Pylon/GM/TF/SF Soloing Antics
everytime...he gets me everytime.... DAMN U BOOMIE
-- _Ilr_
Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz. I would shave some slots from hover, fly, and stamina. Pop a LotG Defense in Ice Shield and Glacial Shield. This boosts your regen by 20%. I would put another Enzyme in Scorpion shield as well. This little tweak should improve your solo and team performance.
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HelinCarnate:OMG it is so terrible. I have the option to take 3 more powers but no additional slots. Boo F'ing hoo.
I thought about the extra lotg's in the shields but I personally don't think it's worth it. With the straight defense slotted it gives 4 extra defense to allies and the +regen bonus is worthless(+.84 hp a sec regen total from them is terrible 
). The extra slot in scorpion shield could be good since it'll bump smash/lethal defense to over incarnate softcap.
After looking at Agility and reworking the OP's build I just may have to redo my Elec/Cold. I went Spiritual on mine for the awesome recharge to get Heat Loss over perma but agility is looking awfully good...
Elec/Cold Troller AV/Pylon/GM/TF/SF Soloing Antics
everytime...he gets me everytime.... DAMN U BOOMIE
-- _Ilr_Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.
- Would take Infrigidate over Aim honestly. You're shaving off a very good chunk of ST debuffage by excluding it and not having a single Acc enh in benumb at the same time.
- Remove the chance to knockdown from ice storm, it's SUPER annoying as it will throw foes out of your storm regularly. Use the Acc/rechg instead.
- Why no Apocalypse set in BIB?
- Web Envelope + Scorpion Shield OR Oppresive Gloom + Dark Embrace are better choices if you're concerned about survivability and still getting bonuses. Soul Drain and Power Boost would what I would recommend if you are looking for a more balanced build.
If I could change power picks, I'd drop afterburner for infrigidate.
Also HAI turbo.
Elec/Cold Troller AV/Pylon/GM/TF/SF Soloing Antics
everytime...he gets me everytime.... DAMN U BOOMIE
-- _Ilr_Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.
Well, I think you're not really doing it right, but what do I know?
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Frosty Frozone: Level 50 Technology Defender
Primary Power Set: Cold Domination
Secondary Power Set: Ice Blast
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Teleportation
Ancillary Pool: Mu Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Infrigidate -- AnWeak-DefDeb(A), AnWeak-Acc/DefDeb(3), AnWeak-Acc/Rchg(3), AnWeak-DefDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(5), AnWeak-Acc/Rchg/EndRdx(5), Achilles-ResDeb%(7)
Level 1: Ice Bolt -- Decim-Acc/Dmg(A), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx(7), Decim-Dmg/Rchg(9), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(9), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(11)
Level 2: Ice Blast -- Decim-Acc/Dmg(A), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx(11), Decim-Dmg/Rchg(13), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(13), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(15)
Level 4: Ice Shield -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), Krma-ResKB(15)
Level 6: Glacial Shield -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), Krma-ResKB(17)
Level 8: Frostwork -- Dct'dW-Heal(A), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(17), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(19), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(19), Dct'dW-Rchg(21)
Level 10: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 12: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(21), RechRdx-I(23)
Level 14: Super Speed -- Clrty-RunSpd(A), Clrty-EndRdx(23)
Level 16: Maneuvers -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 18: Tactics -- AdjTgt-ToHit(A), AdjTgt-ToHit/Rchg(25), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg(25), AdjTgt-EndRdx/Rchg(27), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx(27)
Level 20: Vengeance -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 22: Benumb -- Acc-I(A), RechRdx-I(29), RechRdx-I(29), Acc-I(50)
Level 24: Arctic Fog -- RedFtn-Def(A), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(31), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(31), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(31), RedFtn-EndRdx(33), Ksmt-ToHit+(33)
Level 26: Sleet -- AnWeak-DefDeb(A), AnWeak-Acc/DefDeb(33), AnWeak-Acc/Rchg(34), AnWeak-DefDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(34), AnWeak-Acc/Rchg/EndRdx(34), Achilles-ResDeb%(36)
Level 28: Bitter Ice Blast -- Apoc-Dam%(A), Apoc-Dmg/EndRdx(36), Apoc-Dmg/Rchg(36), Apoc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37), Apoc-Acc/Rchg(37)
Level 30: Freeze Ray -- UbrkCons-EndRdx/Hold(A), UbrkCons-Dam%(37), UbrkCons-Hold/Rchg(39), UbrkCons-Acc/Hold/Rchg(39), UbrkCons-Acc/Rchg(39)
Level 32: Ice Storm -- Ragnrk-Dmg(A), Ragnrk-Dmg/Rchg(40), Ragnrk-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), Ragnrk-Acc/Rchg(40), Ragnrk-Dmg/EndRdx(42)
Level 35: Heat Loss -- Efficacy-EndMod(A), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg(42), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(42), Efficacy-Acc/Rchg(43), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc(43), Efficacy-EndMod/EndRdx(43)
Level 38: Aim -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 41: Charged Armor -- Aegis-ResDam(A), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(45), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg(45), Aegis-EndRdx/Rchg(45), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(46)
Level 44: Super Jump -- ULeap-Jump(A), ULeap-EndRdx(48)
Level 47: Recall Friend -- Range-I(A)
Level 49: Acrobatics -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 50: Cardiac Core Paragon
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Vigilance
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Mrcl-Rcvry+(50)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- Efficacy-EndMod(A), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg(46), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(46), Efficacy-Acc/Rchg(48), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc(48), Efficacy-EndMod/EndRdx(50)
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Set Bonus Totals:
- 19% DamageBuff(Smashing)
- 19% DamageBuff(Lethal)
- 19% DamageBuff(Fire)
- 19% DamageBuff(Cold)
- 19% DamageBuff(Energy)
- 19% DamageBuff(Negative)
- 19% DamageBuff(Toxic)
- 19% DamageBuff(Psionic)
- 4.69% Defense(Fire)
- 4.69% Defense(Cold)
- 4.69% Defense(AoE)
- 4.5% Max End
- 105% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
- 61% Enhancement(Accuracy)
- 4% Enhancement(Heal)
- 76.3 HP (7.5%) HitPoints
- 4% JumpHeight
- 4% JumpSpeed
- Knockback (Mag -8)
- Knockup (Mag -8)
- MezResist(Immobilize) 9.9%
- MezResist(Stun) 4.4%
- MezResist(Terrorized) 2.2%
- 11% (0.18 End/sec) Recovery
- 56% (2.37 HP/sec) Regeneration
- 7.56% Resistance(Fire)
- 7.56% Resistance(Cold)
- 1.26% Resistance(Energy)
- 1.26% Resistance(Negative)
- 5% RunSpeed
- 2.5% XPDebtProtection
Kill the enemy. Take their souls. Drink their blood.
Here's another take on Cold/Ice ... with a twist. The build has 100% run/jump/fly speed and recharge resistance while Arctic Fog is running.
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Operative Grissom 100% recharge_slow resistance (v2.00.i20 SpiritualCore): Level 50 Magic Defender
Primary Power Set: Cold Domination
Secondary Power Set: Ice Blast
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Leaping
Ancillary Pool: Power Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Ice Shield -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(13), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(31)
Level 1: Ice Bolt -- Entrpc-Acc/Dmg(A), Entrpc-Dmg/EndRdx(3), Entrpc-Dmg/Rchg(5), Entrpc-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(7), Entrpc-Heal%(23), Apoc-Dam%(37)
Level 2: Ice Blast -- Entrpc-Acc/Dmg(A), Entrpc-Dmg/EndRdx(3), Entrpc-Dmg/Rchg(5), Entrpc-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(7), Entrpc-Heal%(23), ImpSwft-Dam%(37)
Level 4: Snow Storm -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 6: Glacial Shield -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(13), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(15)
Level 8: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(9), RechRdx-I(9)
Level 10: Aim -- AdjTgt-ToHit/Rchg(A), AdjTgt-Rchg(11), AdjTgt-EndRdx/Rchg(11)
Level 12: Frostwork -- Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(A)
Level 14: Super Speed -- Clrty-Stlth(A), Zephyr-ResKB(15)
Level 16: Freeze Ray -- UbrkCons-Hold/Rchg(A), UbrkCons-Acc/Hold/Rchg(17), UbrkCons-Acc/Rchg(17), UbrkCons-EndRdx/Hold(21), UbrkCons-Dam%(40), Lock-%Hold(43)
Level 18: Benumb -- Acc-I(A), RechRdx-I(19), RechRdx-I(19)
Level 20: Maneuvers -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(21), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(31)
Level 22: Tactics -- AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx(A), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg(25), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(36), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(42)
Level 24: Infrigidate -- ShldBrk-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(A), ShldBrk-DefDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(25), ShldBrk-Acc/Rchg(31), Achilles-ResDeb%(46)
Level 26: Sleet -- Ragnrk-Dmg(A), Ragnrk-Dmg/Rchg(27), Ragnrk-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(27), Ragnrk-Acc/Rchg(45), Ragnrk-Dmg/EndRdx(50), Achilles-ResDeb%(50)
Level 28: Bitter Ice Blast -- Apoc-Dmg/Rchg(A), Apoc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(29), Apoc-Acc/Rchg(29), Apoc-Dmg/EndRdx(34), Apoc-Dmg(43), Cloud-%Dam(43)
Level 30: Arctic Fog -- Aegis-ResDam(A), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(34), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(40), LkGmblr-Rchg+(48), GftotA-Def(48), GftotA-Def/EndRdx(48)
Level 32: Heat Loss -- Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg(A), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(33), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(33), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(33), RechRdx-I(34)
Level 35: Ice Storm -- JavVoll-Dam%(A), JavVoll-Acc/Dmg(36), JavVoll-Dam/Rech(36), JavVoll-Dam/End/Rech(37), JavVoll-Acc/Dmg/End/Rech(39)
Level 38: Blizzard -- JavVoll-Dam%(A), JavVoll-Acc/Dmg(39), JavVoll-Dam/Rech(39), JavVoll-Dam/End/Rech(40), JavVoll-Acc/Dmg/End/Rech(46)
Level 41: Power Build Up -- AdjTgt-ToHit/Rchg(A), AdjTgt-Rchg(42), AdjTgt-EndRdx/Rchg(42)
Level 44: Vengeance -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), Mrcl-Heal(45), Mrcl-Heal/Rchg(46)
Level 47: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 49: Combat Jumping -- Winter-ResSlow(A), Zephyr-ResKB(50)
Level 50: Spiritual Core Paragon
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Vigilance
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Mrcl-Rcvry+(45)
Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%(A)
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Kinda surprised how many of you make defenders with such weakly slotted shields for teammates. Cold defenders are wanted because of those shields along with sleet before anything else; let's be honest.
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For a final build, the shields are, in order
1) Home for LOTG +7.5% rch
2) Home for Steadfast -kb and 3%
3) See what slots are left over after building for Def, Recharge, HP, etc
Sorry, but a Cold is not about "shields along with sleet before anything else". It's about debuffing hard targets and getting Heat Loss off frequently Truth be told my Cold Def shield numbers would meet with your approval only because of the regen and HP bonuses from LOTG. My Cold troller only has 2 slots for shields. If the 3-4ish percent Def missing from the slotting these folks are showing is a difference maker to someone, they need to reevaluate their own build.
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Originally Posted by Deacon_NA
For a final build, the shields are, in order
1) Home for LOTG +7.5% rch 2) Home for Steadfast -kb and 3% 3) See what slots are left over after building for Def, Recharge, HP, etc Sorry, but a Cold is not about "shields along with sleet before anything else". It's about debuffing hard targets and getting Heat Loss off frequently Truth be told my Cold Def shield numbers would meet with your approval only because of the regen and HP bonuses from LOTG. My Cold troller only has 2 slots for shields. If the 3-4ish percent Def missing from the slotting these folks are showing is a difference maker to someone, they need to reevaluate their own build. |
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I was referring to the above builds with only one slot being used to grant defense - you weren't even in this thread until now, Deacon.
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Yes I know you were referring to the above builds. When is the right time to enter a thread?
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I was referring to the above builds with only one slot being used to grant defense - you weren't even in this thread until now, Deacon.
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Fun tidbit: Do you know what the difference in defense between a build with the shields slotted with just a Lotg+ and nerve/agility and a build with the shields slotted with 3 lvl50 def IO's and nerve/agility is? If you guessed just slightly over 5 then you're correct. TBH sacrificing slots just to get that little bit is not worth it. I'd rather have my debuffs and blasts up quicker so enemies will be defeated quicker thus protecting my team better. I'd rather have my personal defense higher so I'll be able to survive long enough to lay down said debuffs and blasts.
Elec/Cold Troller AV/Pylon/GM/TF/SF Soloing Antics
everytime...he gets me everytime.... DAMN U BOOMIE
-- _Ilr_Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz. Properly slotted ice shields should be giving 17%+ def (corr numbers, sorry I don't know defender numbers), which means a lotg+, lotg defense, and either agility alpha or a 3rd def/end lotg. There really isn't anything so demanding of slots that should be more important than having 2-3 slotted shields in your build, 2-3 slots is not alot when you're looking at what cold's shields provide to your group. Cold comes in 2 parts: buffs and debuffs, both are important and should be given the attention they deserve.
Slotted up shields on a defender will net you right over 25% +def. With an IO build I have a hard time finding slots to put into the shields since I'm trying to chase perma hasten/HL and giving myself plenty of +def. On a SO build I do find I have slightly more freedom since I'm not chasing bonuses and give them an extra slot but never more than two.
Even with no slots and just a Lotg+ and nerve/agility, the shields(def values) give just over 20% +def. I'd have to say that's still a good chunk of +def. While cold's shields gives decent +def, the awesomness of its debuffs and heat loss is what makes cold great IMO.
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everytime...he gets me everytime.... DAMN U BOOMIE
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My Fire/Cold/Dark Corr has 3 slotted ice/glacial shields with perma hasten, heat loss, benumb, and soul drain, as well as 37% M/R/A defense (on a cold I prefer MRA over SL defense, in practice it is very rare that I'm below softcap because of the abundance of defense buffs, especially maneuvers, the toon isn't built to solo, though it can quite well)|
Originally Posted by Boomie
With an IO build I have a hard time finding slots to put into the shields since I'm trying to chase perma hasten/HL and giving myself plenty of +def. On a SO build I do find I have slightly more freedom since I'm not chasing bonuses and give them an extra slot but never more than two.
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You were replying to me regarding your own build which is different than the ones I was talking about, as if I was wrong, that's all.
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Yes I know you were referring to the above builds. When is the right time to enter a thread?
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I only do about 66% enh buff on shields myself, seems fine when you combine it with sleet+storm and precision infrig+benumb. It's all 8 powers working great together that allows for some ease on the slotting.
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Originally Posted by JayboH
Kinda surprised how many of you make defenders with such weakly slotted shields for teammates. Cold defenders are wanted because of those shields along with sleet before anything else; let's be honest.
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This is the build I use on my Cold/Ice defender. Solos quite effectively. Does not come close to the Incarnate defense cap but with the amount of buffs being thrown around in your average trial it should not make a big difference.
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Arctic Woman: Level 50 Magic Defender
Primary Power Set: Cold Domination
Secondary Power Set: Ice Blast
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Concealment
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Psychic Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Infrigidate -- P'ngTtl-Acc/Slow:50(A), P'ngTtl--Rchg%:50(7), P'ngTtl-Acc/EndRdx:50(7), P'ngTtl-EndRdx/Rchg/Slow:50(17), P'ngTtl-Dmg/Slow:50(17), P'ngTtl-Rng/Slow:50(36)
Level 1: Ice Bolt -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg:50(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx:50(3), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg:50(5), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(9), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(11), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(46)
Level 2: Ice Blast -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg:50(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx:50(3), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg:50(5), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(9), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(11), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(45)
Level 4: Super Jump -- Jump-I:50(A)
Level 6: Snow Storm -- P'ngTtl-Acc/Slow:50(A), P'ngTtl-Dmg/Slow:50(25), P'ngTtl-Acc/EndRdx:50(25), P'ngTtl--Rchg%:50(37), P'ngTtl-Rng/Slow:50(40), P'ngTtl-EndRdx/Rchg/Slow:50(46)
Level 8: Glacial Shield -- LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(A)
Level 10: Ice Shield -- LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(A)
Level 12: Arctic Fog -- RedFtn-Def/EndRdx:50(A), RedFtn-Def/Rchg:50(13), RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg:50(13), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg:50(43), RedFtn-Def:50(43), RedFtn-EndRdx:50(50)
Level 14: Aim -- RechRdx-I:50(A)
Level 16: Combat Jumping -- Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx:30(A), Zephyr-ResKB:50(36)
Level 18: Freeze Ray -- Lock-Acc/Hold:50(A), Lock-Acc/Rchg:50(19), Lock-Rchg/Hold:50(19), Lock-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold:50(23), Lock-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold:50(34), Lock-%Hold:50(36)
Level 20: Benumb -- Acc-I:50(A), Acc-I:50(21), RechRdx-I:50(21)
Level 22: Hasten -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(23)
Level 24: Stealth -- LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(A)
Level 26: Sleet -- ShldBrk-%Dam:30(A), Achilles-ResDeb%:20(27), LdyGrey-%Dam:30(27), RechRdx-I:50(42), RechRdx-I:50(43), Posi-Dam%:50(46)
Level 28: Ice Storm -- Posi-Acc/Dmg:50(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx:50(29), Posi-Dam%:50(29), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(37), Posi-Dmg/Rchg:50(39)
Level 30: Bitter Ice Blast -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg:50(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx:50(31), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg:50(31), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(31), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(34), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(37)
Level 32: Heat Loss -- Efficacy-EndMod:50(A), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg:50(33), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc/Rchg:50(33), Efficacy-Acc/Rchg:50(33), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc:50(34), Efficacy-EndMod/EndRdx:50(42)
Level 35: Maneuvers -- LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(A)
Level 38: Blizzard -- Posi-Acc/Dmg:50(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx:50(39), Posi-Dmg/Rchg:50(39), Posi-Dmg/Rng:50(40), Posi-Dam%:50(40)
Level 41: Dominate -- Lock-Acc/Hold:50(A), Lock-Acc/Rchg:50(42)
Level 44: Mind Over Body -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/EndRdx:30(A), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+:30(45), S'fstPrt-ResKB:30(45)
Level 47: World of Confusion -- CoPers-Conf:50(A), CoPers-Conf/Rchg:50(48), CoPers-Acc/Conf/Rchg:50(48), CoPers-Acc/Rchg:50(48), CoPers-Conf/EndRdx:50(50), CoPers-Conf%:50(50)
Level 49: Invisibility -- LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(A)
Level 50: Musculature Core Paragon
Level 50: Reactive Radial Flawless Interface
Level 50: Cryonic Radial Final Judgement
Level 50: Barrier Core Epiphany
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Level 1: Brawl -- Acc-I:50(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Clrty-Stlth:50(A)
Level 1: Vigilance
Level 2: Rest -- RechRdx-I:50(A)
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I:50(A)
Level 2: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+:50(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I:50(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%:50(A), P'Shift-EndMod:50(15), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc:50(15)
Level 4: Ninja Run
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Been playing my Cold/Ice Defender a lot lately and while I'm having fun I'm looking to tweak out his build a bit more. I've been running around with ranged defense cap but no epic armour power and finding I still go squish pretty easily. So thats something I'm thinking about fixing with the proposed build here.
He actually runs Agility Radial Paragon (so perfect for Cold btw), so Recharge and End Mod is better than it appears here, Nerve just made it easier to track the defense numbers since the new Incarnate powers have yet to be implemented in Mids'.
Some things...
1.) Not sure which epic armour to go for. After looking through IDF and Warworks profiles it does appear Charged Armor is the clear winner with all those Energy attacks. However, I already have a bit of Energy resistance, so perhaps softening up the Seer Psi damage with Mind Over Body is a better idea? Dark Embrace's higher total numbers is attractive, but the coverage is for such rare typings...
2.) Visuals for epic armours. I'm hoping none of them are too visually obtrusive (I'd honestly take Frozen Armor if I could, since its nice thematically), and can only assume they're identical to the melee armour sets in that department.
3.) Outlier powers: Frost Breath, Afterburner, Assault
I've always taken Frost Breath, but use it increasingly rarely at the end game. It still has its moments, primarily when soloing or exemplared, but it does feel underwhelming at times.
Afterburner makes flying a lot more fun, but I'm sometimes finding having to turn it on and off annoying due to the Affect Self only clause.
Assault is Assault, I'd like to fit it in but its a bit difficult to give up more 'fun' powers.
I can take 2/3 of these, or if I take the effort to get Villain Patron Power Pools (and mar my hero's stainless background forever!) I can take Charged Armour and shunt off the slots from Mass Hypnosis to Boxing for the mule set and take all 3. Thoughts?
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Frost Sigil: Level 50 Magic Defender
Primary Power Set: Cold Domination
Secondary Power Set: Ice Blast
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Psychic Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Ice Shield
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 30
- (3) Luck of the Gambler - Defense: Level 50
Level 1: Ice Bolt- (A) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage: Level 40
- (3) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance: Level 40
- (5) Thunderstrike - Damage/Recharge: Level 40
- (5) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 40
- (7) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 40
- (7) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 40
Level 2: Ice Blast- (A) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage: Level 40
- (9) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance: Level 40
- (9) Thunderstrike - Damage/Recharge: Level 40
- (11) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 40
- (11) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 40
- (13) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 40
Level 4: Frost Breath- (A) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage: Level 35
- (15) Positron's Blast - Damage/Endurance: Level 35
- (17) Positron's Blast - Damage/Recharge: Level 35
- (17) Positron's Blast - Damage/Range: Level 35
- (19) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 35
Level 6: Glacial Shield- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 30
- (19) Luck of the Gambler - Defense: Level 50
Level 8: Hasten- (A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
- (21) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 10: Hover- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50
- (21) Luck of the Gambler - Defense: Level 50
Level 12: Arctic Fog- (A) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance: Level 35
- (23) Red Fortune - Defense/Recharge: Level 35
- (23) Red Fortune - Endurance/Recharge: Level 35
- (25) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance/Recharge: Level 35
- (25) Red Fortune - Defense: Level 35
- (27) Red Fortune - Endurance: Level 35
Level 14: Fly- (A) Freebird - +Stealth: Level 50
Level 16: Freeze Ray- (A) Unbreakable Constraint - Hold/Recharge: Level 50
- (27) Unbreakable Constraint - Accuracy/Hold/Recharge: Level 50
- (29) Unbreakable Constraint - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
- (29) Unbreakable Constraint - Endurance/Hold: Level 50
- (31) Unbreakable Constraint - Chance for Smashing Damage: Level 50
Level 18: Benumb- (A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
- (31) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 20: Ice Storm- (A) Ragnarok - Damage: Level 50
- (31) Ragnarok - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (33) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (33) Ragnarok - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
- (33) Ragnarok - Chance for Knockdown: Level 50
Level 22: Maneuvers- (A) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance: Level 30
- (34) Red Fortune - Defense/Recharge: Level 30
- (34) Red Fortune - Endurance/Recharge: Level 30
- (34) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance/Recharge: Level 30
- (36) Red Fortune - Defense: Level 30
- (36) Red Fortune - Endurance: Level 30
Level 24: Boxing- (A) Damage Increase IO: Level 50
Level 26: Sleet- (A) Undermined Defenses - Defense Debuff/Recharge: Level 50
- (36) Undermined Defenses - Recharge: Level 50
- (37) Undermined Defenses - Recharge/Endurance: Level 50
- (37) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff: Level 20
Level 28: Bitter Ice Blast- (A) Devastation - Chance of Hold: Level 50
- (37) Devastation - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (39) Devastation - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (39) Devastation - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- (39) HamiO:Centriole Exposure
- (40) HamiO:Centriole Exposure
Level 30: Aim- (A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 32: Heat Loss- (A) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Recharge: Level 50
- (40) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
- (40) Performance Shifter - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
- (42) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Recharge: Level 50
Level 35: Tough- (A) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance: Level 50
- (50) Aegis - Resistance: Level 50
Level 38: Blizzard- (A) Positron's Blast - Damage/Range: Level 30
- (42) Positron's Blast - Damage/Endurance: Level 30
- (42) Positron's Blast - Damage/Recharge: Level 30
- (43) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 30
- (43) Positron's Blast - Chance of Damage(Energy): Level 30
Level 41: Mass Hypnosis- (A) Fortunata Hypnosis - Sleep/Recharge: Level 50
- (43) Fortunata Hypnosis - Accuracy/Sleep/Recharge: Level 50
- (45) Fortunata Hypnosis - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
- (45) Fortunata Hypnosis - Sleep/Endurance: Level 50
- (45) Fortunata Hypnosis - Chance for Placate: Level 50
Level 44: Weave- (A) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance: Level 35
- (46) Red Fortune - Defense/Recharge: Level 35
- (46) Red Fortune - Endurance/Recharge: Level 35
- (46) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance/Recharge: Level 35
- (48) Red Fortune - Defense: Level 35
- (48) Red Fortune - Endurance: Level 35
Level 47: Mind Over Body- (A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/Endurance: Level 30
- (48) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%: Level 30
- (50) Steadfast Protection - Knockback Protection: Level 30
- (50) Resist Damage IO: Level 50
Level 49: Afterburner- (A) Karma - Knockback Protection: Level 30
Level 0: The Atlas MedallionLevel 0: Portal Jockey
Level 50: Nerve Core Paragon
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Level 1: Brawl
- (A) Damage Increase IO: Level 50
Level 1: Sprint- (A) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 2: Rest- (A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 1: VigilanceLevel 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift
- (A) Flight Speed IO: Level 50
Level 2: Health- (A) Miracle - +Recovery: Level 40
Level 2: Hurdle- (A) Jumping IO: Level 50
Level 2: Stamina