FIRE/FA? StJ/FA? or TITAN/FA?


Count_Scottula

 

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after a couple of struggled days, now i choose to be a Brute! as i keep discovering and learning about Brutes, there's a 3 paths that makes me confuse again! now im rolling with FIRE/FIRE Brute which is awesome but i started to get curious about the StJ & TITAN as primary and i was thinking that both of that primary would work on a gameplay that i want (jump in the middle of Spawns with Toggle AOE, Land some AOEs then single target 'em all...) if i put FIRE as secondary (just my opinion)... here's the question, since i haven't played and experienced the StJ and TITAN yet, what would be the nice primary for /FA? StJ/FA? TITAN/FA or should i just stick with my FIRE/FA? any Advice and Opinions are quitely appreciate! Thanks!


 

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I can comment on F/FA and StJ/FA a little, have not tested Titan...

A long post could compare and contrast these combos, but here are some highlights...

Fire FireA will give you the most damage for two reasons:
1. Firey Embrace from your secondary, will boost damage of your primary powers
2. Fire damage is less often resisted than smash, which is mainly StJ

StJ will be more defensive because it has disorients and knockdowns. A lot of people take a more defensive primary with FA, because it is not, by itself, one of the tougher sets.

One comment about Titan Weapons, I personally don't like a very clicky secondary with a weapon set. I always feel like I spend so long pulling my weapons out. FireA is pretty clicky.


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According to your description of your playstyle I'd say stay with Fire/fire. StJ has somewhat good AoE, but it lacks "true" PBAoE, as it's primary aoe attack is a Targeted AoE.

Titan Weapons is a monster with AoE, as it has 3 cones (the first as early as level 1!) and 1 PBAoE! Thing is though, the PBAoE attack can not be used unless you have momentum (which means that you have to have attacked with one attack already, making it impossible to use the PBAoE as an opening move*). Titan/Fire is also a fairly useful combo, as Titan weapons eats end like hell, thus making consume a life saver!

*However, if you use Build Up, or Build Momentum as it's called, you can use the attack as an opener.


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A selling point for both SJ and TW, they both offer some mitigation via knockdown/up, and /fire is known to be on the squishy side without lots of work.


 

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Originally Posted by Count_Scottula View Post
Fire FireA will give you the most damage for two reasons:
1. Firey Embrace from your secondary, will boost damage of your primary powers
My understanding is the game description of Fiery Embrace is wholly wrong and that it simply adds a percentage (45% I think) of any damage done as bonus fire damage. So hit something for 100 smashing and you get 45 more damage as fire. Hit something for 100 Fire and you get 45 more damage as fire.


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Originally Posted by Erratic View Post
My understanding is the game description of Fiery Embrace is wholly wrong and that it simply adds a percentage (45% I think) of any damage done as bonus fire damage. So hit something for 100 smashing and you get 45 more damage as fire. Hit something for 100 Fire and you get 45 more damage as fire.
Your understanding is correct, though I believe the firey embrace damage bonus is keyed to base damage, not enhanced damage (SOs, buffs, Fury, etc). I may be mistaken on that.

edit: Just tested against a level 50 minion. 305 smashing, 137 bonus fire, 0% damage bonus.
445 smashing, 200 bonus fire, 80% damage bonus.
685 smashing, 308 bonus fire, 224% damage bonus.


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Hehe. This thread is implying we'll ever get Titan Weapons in the next century.

But seriously. I hear TW/FA is really great. I'm doing TW/Energy Aura and it's AMAZING with the recharge bonus and great end recovery.



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My FIRE/FA Brute is Lv27 atm, i can do solo but its so squishy as hell! u guys heard me???? SQUISHY AS HELL! and not only that, i just killed the 3 mobs and my full bar end dried up! i dont think its gonna last long in the lategame^^


 

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Originally Posted by RicVasquez View Post
My FIRE/FA Brute is Lv27 atm, i can do solo but its so squishy as hell! u guys heard me???? SQUISHY AS HELL! and not only that, i just killed the 3 mobs and my full bar end dried up! i dont think its gonna last long in the lategame^^
While my DB/Fire Brute does drink endurance, he generally goes more than two fights before running dangerously low on endurance (though at level 36, I am hoping to make use of Body Mastery to help him out in that regard).

Have you got Stamina slotted?

You should be high enough level for Consume. Have you taken it?

Dropping an entire bar of endurance to kill 3 things. . .I am assuming you are being a bit hyperbolic.


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Originally Posted by RicVasquez View Post
My FIRE/FA Brute is Lv27 atm, i can do solo but its so squishy as hell! u guys heard me???? SQUISHY AS HELL! and not only that, i just killed the 3 mobs and my full bar end dried up! i dont think its gonna last long in the lategame^^
That's how FA rolls until you get to IO it out.

Conversely, MY /FA beats x8 Malta spawns effortlessly. You will be rewarded.


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@Erratic: yeah i got the consume and im about slot it for 5... 3recharde reduction and 2endurance modification (correct me if this is wrong...) and should i put slot on stamina? how many slot?

@TheBruteTeam: thats whats up! but IOs gonna be hella expensive...hehe


 

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You didnt slot stamina? /em facepalm

Put 2-3 in there, so you have 2-3 end mod SOs and the Performance shifter +end proc.


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Sorry if this doesn't fit here, but I have only heard a little about Titan. It's not live, is it? Is it still in beta?


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