slotting choking cloud

basilisk gaze should be fine, just dont use the proc and save a 5 slot on the power for the lockdown proc, the proc in basilisks gaze is fairly negligible

Yeah, that would work as well. It was early in the morning when I responded to that post lol. I try to slot as many BG as I can in certain builds.

oh yeah thats what i meant anyway 4 slot baslisks to get to the -recharge then slap a lockdown in on the 5th slot. thanks for translating for me

Nooo, don't use the -rech. proc it's a waste of slot and time.

i mean the set bonus recharge reduction from 4 basilisks, not the -recharge proc

so i think i need a full time translator for my brain....

Oh! Sorry haha, no you're fine lol. You meant the Global Recharge! It's ok I've just never seen someone word it that way before, carry on!

I think i've been breathing too much choking cloud.

Yeah, it's one of those weird instances where the term for it, and it's function can be sort of confusing.

+Recharge is a recharge bonus (The good kind), which reduces the recharge of your powers, which would make you think -Recharge (Subtracted from).

Where -Recharge is a recharge slow (The bad kind), which increases the recharge of the power, which you would think would be +recharge (Added to).

This is because + and - effects aren't added to or subtracted from the actual Recharge value of the power, but rather increase or decrease the Recharge Bonus modifier, which the power's recharge is then divided by.

Powers have a base recharge modifier of 100%(or 1.0), using a power with a 60second recharge as an example, that means 60seconds/1.0=60seconds. Where if you had a +50% Recharge Buff that'd make it 1.0+0.5=1.5, 60/1.5=40seconds for that power to be ready again.

-Recharge works similarly, but is subtracted from your 100% base before dividing the power's recharge. That same 60second power with a -50% Recharge Debuff works out to: 1.0-0.5=0.5, 60seconds/0.5=120seconds, so your power would take twice as long to recharge.

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Yep this.

That said it isn't so much that one must slot for Endred (or Hold). As with any build keep your goals in mind. If, while running CC (and whatever else one usually runs) slotted with Basilisk's plus Lockdowns your net recovery is sufficient to ward off end usage issues then all is well. If NOT then getting more Endred in CC is likely to be one of the places where slotting for more endred could solve the issue(s) And likewise if things aren't being Held reliably enough ... then slot for more Hold duration.

That's 'cause I usually hang out at the Controller forums, not the Defender ones.

I have a full explanation of why it is important to fully Slot Choking Cloud for Hold in my Ill/Rad guide, but the short version is this:

At level 50 for controllers, Choking Cloud has pulses every 5 seconds of 7.45 hold, but the percentage chance of the hold hitting is 80% for Mag 1, 50% for Mag 2. Those two combine for: 10% chance of no hold at all, 40% chance of only Mag 1 (which is worthess unless you are stacking mag with another hold power), 10% chance of Mag 2 (minions only), and 40% chance of Mag 3 (minions + lieutenants). CC is a toggle hold, so you want the hold to last as long as possible -- you want to give the random number generator as much to work with as possible to keep that hold going.

With no enhancement for Hold, any time the hold hits, it will last through one more pulse and then expire. After about 35% enhancement, that hold will last 10 seconds, through 2 pulses. But if you fully slot for Hold duration (95%), the hold will last 14.5 seconds, or nearly 3 pulses -- just a little bit of global +Hold will take it over 15 seconds, or 3 pulses. Thus, if you fully slot for Hold duration, the power has a much greater chance to continually hold foes. (Of course, those are using Controller numbers. I can't check the Defender numbers right now since the City of Data site on CoHTitan is down due to an infestation.)

If Choking Cloud is going to be a functional power rather than just a set mule, it really needs capped slotting for Hold and as much EndRdx as you can get. Because of the way that CC stacks Mag, that Lockdown proc which adds 2 mag is very effective if you can fit it in. Beyond that, damage procs can be a nice addition especially if you keep the foes in the cloud for a long time.

I think on my Fire/Rad, I have 4 Unbreakable Constraint (including the damage proc), the Lockdown proc and a common EndRdx. That caps Hold, has OK EndRdx (a little lower than I would like) and the Lockdown proc to add mag.