why does COH feeeze and crash duren game play ?
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Posted on: 2011-10-17 10:14 in Bug Report Forums
What model is your video card? I'm guessing it's an ATI card, because up until the absolutely latest driver release, everyone else with an ATI card was experiencing the same issues.
Here's a link to the latest driver: http://www2.ati.com/drivers/11-9_vis...dd_ccc_ocl.exe
Before installing it, please make sure you completely uninstall your existing video driver, then run Driver Sweeper (or equivalent driver removing software) in Safe Mode to ensure you've got all the old files and registry settings deleted.
You're not having an issue with the game itself; it's a problem with the way ATI had been handling OpenGL graphics all summer. If you're going to get pissy with someone, then do it with the people who screwed up the damn drivers.
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Originally Posted by comdo99
I been getting this allot durren game play.
it will freeze and crash every day I play the game. some times 15 minutes play time or more. I built my own pc I have windows 7 ultimate. motherboard asus quad core amd 3.20ghz ram 12gb video card 1gb hard drives 2 x for now, 1.5tb each. internet cable timewarner turbo. have all drives and windows updated. I been a pc tech for over 20 years now. and so far this the only game that bothers me with the freezing and crashing. I played age of conan which is a more high end graphics game and more things to it then city of heroes can come close too ! and that I have on max settings and performance wise too. and it never freezes or crashes I can play that game for over 24 hrs tops or more straight and not even a bit of lag from it. but this game freeze and crash every dang day i play it ! there is coding error in this game and it needs to be fix asap. and I talked with other gamers who play this game too. and they have the same stupid issue I do with it. so its not our computers that has the errors or the cause for it to freeze up. its in the games coding it self ! the programmers of this game should take it back to the drawing board and find the major error and recode the dang thing. and I been in to programing my self for a few years and if I have to use my tools to find the error in the game my self and slap in the coders face I will. cause this just plain stupid for them to skip this major error. no wonder the game went free to play lol. allot of the gamers left cause of this major issue ! who in their right minds want to play a game that's gonna constantly freeze up and crash without any error message. this just annoying as hell. since I am new to the game I let right for tops 1 month till they get off their butts and repair the problem. if not I'll cancel my VIP access and my account for the entire game !! cause there's always better games then this out there to play even for free full access. |
But yeah, it's totally not you.
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im gonna help you out here..in the recent issue updates this game has been not very helpful when it comes to ati cards.myself included have had to suffer through a game has changed ALOT in the last 7 years.since i came here in dec of 2004 i can tell you that i have not had any issue with crashing or freezing since this year.|
Originally Posted by DumpleBerry
Hundreds of thousands of people have played this game, for more than seven years straight.
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it does have to do with the game and its combatibility with ati cards. so infact it is an issue.
do you know i was unable to run the last 4 updates with ati to this game dumple?...no i bet you didnt.so while your not helpful at all. i can tell you that it is infact the game that is the problem.but its also ati as well.
please read up next time before making your statements. as a paying customer he also has a right to complain about the product he pays for.so your comments arent very smart and not helpful at all for new players.way to shine pal!
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Yes, but he also has a duty to not immediately become inflammatory, and to make his posts legible. It really takes just an extra minute or two to add periods, spell check (if he was a PC tech for 20 years, he'd be using a browser that isn't IE, and all of those have spell-check built in), and capitalize where appropriate (i.e. ATI).
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Originally Posted by Severe
im gonna help you out here..in the recent issue updates this game has been not very helpful when it comes to ati cards.myself included have had to suffer through a game has changed ALOT in the last 7 years.since i came here in dec of 2004 i can tell you that i have not had any issue with crashing or freezing since this year.
it does have to do with the game and its combatibility with ati cards. so infact it is an issue. do you know i was unable to run the last 4 updates with ati to this game dumple?...no i bet you didnt.so while your not helpful at all. i can tell you that it is infact the game that is the problem.but its also ati as well. please read up next time before making your statements. as a paying customer he also has a right to complain about the product he pays for.so your comments arent very smart and not helpful at all for new players.way to shine pal! |
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Did you just use "casual gamer" and "purpled-out warshade" in the same sentence?
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Not to mention the fact that I ALREADY WENT OVER THIS, that it is very likely the source of the OP's headache (and childish rant), AND that the latest driver set fixes it because it was a DRIVER ISSUE ALL ALONG that had to do with ATI screwing up their OpenGL code, which was nothing that Paragon Studios could control or fix...|
Originally Posted by Severe
im gonna help you out here..in the recent issue updates this game has been not very helpful when it comes to ati cards.myself included have had to suffer through a game has changed ALOT in the last 7 years.since i came here in dec of 2004 i can tell you that i have not had any issue with crashing or freezing since this year.
it does have to do with the game and its combatibility with ati cards. so infact it is an issue. do you know i was unable to run the last 4 updates with ati to this game dumple?...no i bet you didnt.so while your not helpful at all. i can tell you that it is infact the game that is the problem.but its also ati as well. please read up next time before making your statements. as a paying customer he also has a right to complain about the product he pays for.so your comments arent very smart and not helpful at all for new players.way to shine pal! |
But yeah, go ahead and blame Paragon Studios with an ill-informed pancake-fest anyway.
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Originally Posted by Nethergoat
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The last time the game crashed for me was ... hmmm ... let me think a bit.
*think*
*ponder*
*head scratching*
*wonder*
Aside from my ISP crashing and me losing all internet connection, the last time I can remember the game freezing and crashing on me when playing on the Live servers was during either a Hami raid or a Mothership Raid back around issue 15 or so. I didn't even crash or freeze during the one and only ITF I ran, and that was back before they actively worked on reducing lag issues in the ITF.
I've had a few crashes on the Beta and Test servers, but it's when I was pushing thing for testing purposes. I didn't even crash during the Freedom stress test this summer and I was on a server with an intentionally high load.
And yes, I'm running an ATI card. I know enough of the history of graphics driver issues (both nVidia and ATI) with OpenGL support in the drivers to ever update to the most recent drivers until someone else reports good things with them.
I broke my own rule on this during Issue 17 Beta testing with the 10.1, 10.2, and 10.4 drivers since those were the drivers supporting the new OpenGL calls being introduced. Someone beat me to installing 10.3 and finding that one of the problems was worse in those than in the previous driver, so I skipped that one.
Rant and rage all you want, but you are misplacing your hostility. Does PS make mistakes? Sure. Are there unresolved issues in the game? Sure. Are there bits of code that could likely be cleaned up? Sure. Are the game freezes and crashes PS' fault for bad coding? Highly doubtful. If it were bad coding causing it, it would affect everyone equally.
EDIT: Oh yeah, as for that other game you mentioned? It runs on DirectX, not OpenGL. The DirectX part of the graphics drivers much better testing as there are many more games using DirectX than there are using OpenGL.
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This doesn't help. Something like a CoH Helper and Hijack This log will give us a better notion as to how your system's built and what's running.|
Originally Posted by comdo99
I been getting this allot durren game play.
it will freeze and crash every day I play the game. some times 15 minutes play time or more. I built my own pc I have windows 7 ultimate. motherboard asus quad core amd 3.20ghz ram 12gb video card 1gb hard drives 2 x for now, 1.5tb each. internet cable timewarner turbo. have all drives and windows updated. |
Head to this link
.Follow the directions there, and start a help request post in the Gameplay & Technical Issues forum. Posting it in the beta forums doesn't help any, as it's out of the way and since i21 has already dropped, not checked as frequently.
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I been a pc tech for over 20 years now. and so far this the only game that bothers me with the freezing and crashing. |
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| I played age of conan which is a more high end graphics game and more things to it then city of heroes can come close too ! |
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| but this game freeze and crash every dang day i play it ! |
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| there is coding error in this game and it needs to be fix asap. |
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and I talked with other gamers who play this game too. and they have the same stupid issue I do with it. |
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| so its not our computers that has the errors or the cause for it to freeze up. |
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| its in the games coding it self ! |
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| the programmers of this game should take it back to the drawing board and find the major error and recode the dang thing. |
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| and I been in to programing my self for a few years and if I have to use my tools to find the error in the game my self and slap in the coders face I will. |
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| cause this just plain stupid for them to skip this major error. |
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| no wonder the game went free to play lol. |
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| allot of the gamers left cause of this major issue ! |
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| who in their right minds want to play a game that's gonna constantly freeze up and crash without any error message. |
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| this just annoying as hell. |
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| since I am new to the game I let right for tops 1 month till they get off their butts and repair the problem. |
That's the lazy cop-out.
Provide us with the info I requested and we can at least give you a better idea if it is a driver issue, a systems issue, or a genuine issue with the game itself.
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if not I'll cancel my VIP access and my account for the entire game !! cause there's always better games then this out there to play even for free full access. |
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Quite the reverse. It has to do with the drivers and their compatibility with the game and the OpenGL standards.|
Originally Posted by Severe
it does have to do with the game and its combatibility with ati cards. so infact it is an issue.
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The fact that the 10.9's rectified so many issues with the game only reinforces the point.
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Originally Posted by Hyperstrike
Quite the reverse. It has to do with the drivers and their compatibility with the game and the OpenGL standards.
The fact that the 10.9's rectified so many issues with the game only reinforces the point. |
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If something had changed in CoH that broke OpenGL support, nVidia users would have suffered the same problems.
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Originally Posted by Severe
or had to fix what cox changed.yes indeed
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If the game spit out 20 dollar bills people would complain that they weren't sequentially numbered. If they were sequentially numbered people would complain that they weren't random enough.
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Originally Posted by Severe
or had to fix what cox changed.yes indeed
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Oh that's right. It doesn't happen.
*Pulls off tin foil hat*
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I dunno, Koishi, that pic DOES rather look like a crash due to driver issues...
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I dunno, Koishi, that pic DOES rather look like a crash due to driver issues...
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Originally Posted by Texas Justice
If something had changed in CoH that broke OpenGL support, nVidia users would have suffered the same problems.
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nVidia users are having problems (Search of only the Gameplay/Technical Issues forum; searched only for the last 6 months; some "false positives" will be there as posters have gone into ATI threads demonizing ATI and praising nVidia), particularly with the new issue.
Unless nVidia and AMD/ATI use the same driver code, we can't compare client reactions between the two brands.
Since most of the ATI crashes - if left alone long enough when they happened - had Windows reporting the the driver has stopped responding, and that Windows has stopped the program, it is possible that nVidia codes a more graceful error handling. Or other variation in methodology that doesn't show actual compatibility.
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Originally Posted by Hyperstrike
How does a game company change a standard API like OpenGL?
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I find it hard to believe. While not OpenGL related, I find it educational to watch both brands scurry to write Beta drivers that work with brand new games every year. If there was an actual DirectX standard (that even game developers followed) you would think the driver writers would be on top of such things.
I find it unlikely there is actually a clear standard for all parties to follow.
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Is there an actual standard?
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I have an ATI card. And it stinks. And I wouldn't be able to play if it weren't for all the great players in the Tech forum, and the assistance they've provided me over the years. I'm not disparaging the difficulties that the OP is having with the game--I'm disparaging the part where he's refusing to work with people to solve his problem. He won't even acknowledge that he's the one with the problem.
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Originally Posted by Severe
im gonna help you out here..in the recent issue updates this game has been not very helpful when it comes to ati cards.myself included have had to suffer through a game has changed ALOT in the last 7 years.since i came here in dec of 2004 i can tell you that i have not had any issue with crashing or freezing since this year.
it does have to do with the game and its combatibility with ati cards. so infact it is an issue. do you know i was unable to run the last 4 updates with ati to this game dumple?...no i bet you didnt.so while your not helpful at all. i can tell you that it is infact the game that is the problem.but its also ati as well. please read up next time before making your statements. as a paying customer he also has a right to complain about the product he pays for.so your comments arent very smart and not helpful at all for new players.way to shine pal! |
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Taking context into account, I am guessing you meant this as a less-than-obvious insult as to my sanity. If not, then take it a clue as to why people do not find these forums/this community all that friendly.|
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Besides, you post that as if you have definitive proof that they don't.
Next you will be trying to claim there is zero chance the Fort Knox vault is empty, or that there is zero chance that the moon landing footage was faked.
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Taking context into account, I am guessing you meant this as a less-than-obvious insult as to my sanity. If not, then take it a clue as to why people do not find these forums/this community all that friendly.
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As for "friendly". You aren't required to "like" what I say, if it is any consolation. On the upside of that, you know I'm not going to get all mealy-mouthed and fawning over you just in the hopes that you'll "like" me. So I'm at least shooting straight with you.
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But are you going into it with an open mind or are you merely playing this game?
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Given what people do with their pcs and macs, it could be ANYTHING. I'm with TJ a little here, CoH has been as reliable as any other piece of software I install on my system. Now, having said that, I run a very clean system, software gets heavily scrutinized before it is installed and I keep very little in active memory. Its worth it, my computer runs flawlessly, does everything I tell it to, and City of Heroes, never gives me trouble.
As to the OP, we need more info to lock down your issue, just saying blah blah blah won't help. The people here know that certain things cause issues with CoH, yeah a lot of the Ati drivers, good example, but there are plenty of other things out there. Now, Hyperstrike mentions CoHhelper and Hijack this, get to it !
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Well, since the OP hasn't responded in almost a week, I'm assuming he's either gotten his problem fixed and not said anything about it or RAGE QUIT.
(Given his other three posts prior to the one that started this thread as a sample of his personality, I'm guessing it was probably the latter.)
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Originally Posted by Nethergoat
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There is also the little tidbit that the OP never asked for help or input...
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This is a public forum. If he didn't want input, he'd have PMed a mod or submitted a bug report, not ranted about it where people can respond. That's like complaining that if you're ranting about something about something around a bunch of other people, they shouldn't say anything at all.
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There is also the little tidbit that the OP never asked for help or input...
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Did you just use "casual gamer" and "purpled-out warshade" in the same sentence?
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I been getting this allot durren game play.
it will freeze and crash every day I play the game.
some times 15 minutes play time or more.
I built my own pc I have windows 7 ultimate.
motherboard asus quad core amd 3.20ghz
ram 12gb video card 1gb hard drives 2 x for now, 1.5tb each.
internet cable timewarner turbo.
have all drives and windows updated.
I been a pc tech for over 20 years now.
and so far this the only game that bothers me with the freezing and crashing.
I played age of conan which is a more high end graphics game and more things to it then city of heroes can come close too !
and that I have on max settings and performance wise too.
and it never freezes or crashes I can play that game for over 24 hrs tops or more straight and not even a bit of lag from it.
but this game freeze and crash every dang day i play it !
there is coding error in this game and it needs to be fix asap.
and I talked with other gamers who play this game too.
and they have the same stupid issue I do with it.
so its not our computers that has the errors or the cause for it to freeze up.
its in the games coding it self !
the programmers of this game should take it back to the drawing board and find the major error and recode the dang thing.
and I been in to programing my self for a few years and if I have to use my tools to find the error in the game my self and slap in the coders face I will.
cause this just plain stupid for them to skip this major error.
no wonder the game went free to play lol.
allot of the gamers left cause of this major issue !
who in their right minds want to play a game that's gonna constantly freeze up and crash without any error message.
this just annoying as hell.
since I am new to the game I let right for tops 1 month till they get off their butts and repair the problem.
if not I'll cancel my VIP access and my account for the entire game !!
cause there's always better games then this out there to play even for free full access.