Best AS Set to Slot?


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Just made my 1st stalker a couple days ago and am coming up on the issue of how to slot or, rather, what set to slot into AS.

I'm a scrapaholic so I started to think about my usual slotting for a melee attack and then realized that this is a special case and, therefore, may require a special type of thinking.

He's a BS/DA stalker, if that helps.

Thank you kindly...


 

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Slot it like you would a regular attack with a long recharge and moderate end cost. Aside for the interupt period the power has it can be used as a regular attack now so there is no reason not to slot it as such.


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So, Hecatomb full set or 5 Hecatombs and slot the 6th for interrupt redux? I usually go with Kinetic Combat sets for my melee dmg powers but it seems that a set capped at 35 doesn't do the dmg of a full blown 50 set, regardless of being the Hecatomb set itself. And with AS being the burst power of all burst powers, I'm guessing that the higher you can push that "Average Damage: XXX(XXX%)" listing the better...


 

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Don't put Hecatomb in your AS.

Put hecatomb in an attack you will be using often to make use of the 33% proc rate.

I would minmally slot AS as its a extremely situatonal power.

(My Stalker is EA, so i put a set of 30 Kinetic Combat in there.)


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Ah, good point. So, slot Kin Com as usual but 6 slot it with a dmg IO for max dmg %? Or is the base dmg not a real priority?

This is the stalker-type mentality I was hoping for. Thanks guys.


 

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Originally Posted by Orynn View Post
Ah, good point. So, slot Kin Com as usual but 6 slot it with a dmg IO for max dmg %? Or is the base dmg not a real priority?

This is the stalker-type mentality I was hoping for. Thanks guys.
Because the critical damage is also affected by slotting, I want the most out of the damage slotting I can get - a base damage of 389 on the critical means that 20% lost not topping it off is around 78 extra hp on the actual attack. That's the difference between killing a Lt and leaving them with a sliver of health (around 9% of their hp at level 50).

For sets, since I tend to use six Touch of Deaths if I want defense or five Crushing Impact for recharge - but I also usually am trying to build positional defense and those sets hit past the ED cap for +damage. If you want just S/L defense Kinetic Combat works, and I plan to put them on my KM/EA who still needs to respec for the i21 changes, but I bump up the accuracy and damage with extra slots every time I use Kinetic Combats because the enhancement numbers are pretty low otherwise.

For minimal slotting, toss in 2 Acc/Dam (S)HOs and a damage enhancement, and don't use it that often.


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Just to be clear. I 4 slot my AS with Kinetic combat.

As I use the Concentrated Strike Hidden Build Up refresh feature heavily on my KM/EA, I don't use Assassins strike at all. I just mule it for the bonus, and low level exemplar play.

If AS is something you plan on using Siolfir gives more suitable slotting advice.


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For stalkers in general you might want to go for set bonuses that give damage. It makes a significant impact as well but do this only after you have soft capped or go for the other needed stuff to help out your secondary.


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Originally Posted by Orynn View Post
So, Hecatomb full set or 5 Hecatombs and slot the 6th for interrupt redux? I usually go with Kinetic Combat sets for my melee dmg powers but it seems that a set capped at 35 doesn't do the dmg of a full blown 50 set, regardless of being the Hecatomb set itself. And with AS being the burst power of all burst powers, I'm guessing that the higher you can push that "Average Damage: XXX(XXX%)" listing the better...
AS doesn't accept Interrupt IOs.

For typed def sets like EA I like 4 kin combats plus a crushing impact acc/dam (or an acc/dam HO) or acc/dam/rech, AS has higher base acc than other attacks (although you don't really wanna miss). Or 6 touch of death for positional def sets.

I don't worry about slotting for recharge like say, Total Focus, because I don't use it as often, especially in the higher levels, with global IO rech bonuses it will probably be up everytime you need it.


 

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Just out of curiosity is it pve or pvp build?

Pve I 5 slot Assasin strike with. Crushing

Pvp ( build 2) I use crushing but sixth is something with extra huff like touch of death or something. Or a hami or a disorient ( basically a special io)

I might have missed if pvp or pve so excuse my poor reading comprehension


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Originally Posted by Orynn View Post
Just made my 1st stalker a couple days ago and am coming up on the issue of how to slot or, rather, what set to slot into AS.

I'm a scrapaholic so I started to think about my usual slotting for a melee attack and then realized that this is a special case and, therefore, may require a special type of thinking.

He's a BS/DA stalker, if that helps.

Thank you kindly...
I like to slot Pounding Slug Fest until I'm at lvl 30, then I switch over to Touch of Death. I find both very good enhancements. PSF for regeneration, damage, and disorient bonuses. ToD for the increase across the board for all major categories. It comes down to personal preference.


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I like crushing impact, it's cheap provides ED capped damage with 5 slots, and has good set bonuses without having to put a full 6 slots into it.


 

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I like crushing impact, it's cheap provides ED capped damage with 5 slots, and has good set bonuses without having to put a full 6 slots into it.
Yeah CI's are great for melee attacks, and aren't too pricey either. Since you're /DA, I'd consider 4 kinetic combats and a quad mako (or just 4 KC's enhanced with boosters, which roughly comes out to the same value as the 4 + mako).

That's of course if you are wanting to try for softcapped S/L, what I usually do on resist stalkers is take the power pool defensives (CJing, weave, maneuvers), toss in the +3% defense IO and pick up shadow meld. This will put you at 45% to pretty much everything when SM is active. Assassinate also grants a 30' -7.5% tohit debuff for 15 seconds to boot, so my routine is shadow meld + BU + assassinate a nuisance target + placate + disembowl a second target (since it is a guaranteed crit rather than the 50% crit from headsplitter) and then start scrapping.

That's the great thing about stalkers: -you- determine when and how the fight will begin and which mobs will need to be dealt with first, which is a large part of why solo stalkers can be so successful.