Glove Slap

Does anyone apart from Statesman ever take Hand Clap?

Bruiser.

Imperius uses it a LOT, which is why I generally call him "Captain Knockback." But then, he is really just a variation on Statesman.

I actually took it on one of my characters, just for the heck of it. I never use it seriously -- just for fun every now and then when solo.

I think Wretch has it. Can't say I've ever seen a player with it.

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Freakshow Tank Smashers use it.

Therefore I took it on my Freakshow-themed SS/Inv Brute.

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I had a Simpsons flashback when I read the subject title.

Glove slap, baby!

My wife has a brute that took it (it was her first SS). She has slowly stopped using it unless we are covered up in ambushes and she wants a moment to breath but usually I beat her to it with a domaination-enhanced Glacier. My guess is that she'll eventually respec out of it.

BTW - I'd love a Gloveslap emote!

I had it on my SS/Fire Brute. It was useful when there was one or a couple annoying guys that just would NOT close to melee... I'd hop out to the opposite side of the guy, then clap, then hop back into the mass. It was even more useful when there were multiple mobs sticking at range, in which case I could clap one closer to the other, then stand around the two that are now about next to each other and let the melee-ers follow.

Although, then they added -range to Taunt powers... making the little usage for Lighting Clap much less... useful. I wouldn't mind seeing the Clap powers changed to actually help. Even before the Taunt change, I was the only person that'd ever do anything like that that I ever saw. The only time I ever saw anyone else use a Clap generally resulted in someone dying due to the aggro getting spread out across the team!

Maybe give it a large -range component and boosted taunt... so that they'll want to run back to you, just as soon as they get up (and for some, shake off the stun).

We've been saving Paragon City for eight and a half years. It's time to do it one more time.

I must confess: I have a level 50 SS/Invuln Tanker that still has Hand Clap.

Why ? Concept idea: it was my 1st toon, and I wanted to make him with *all* its primary powers and *all* its secondary powers - I even took "Hurl", which is even more useless to me than Hand Clap.

I use it from time to time to:

a) clear up a mob that would have sneaked past me and is attacking a non-melee player (ex. Empath Defender) - especially if I notice the health bar of that player melting like butter in a saucepan...

b) play "bounce ball" with a lieutenant standing between me and a wall 10 feet away...

c) break up a large mob, mostly when I solo - "OK, that's enough - I'll get to you in a moment..."

My 32 I/SS tank still has it. Same reason as Archiviste. I wanted "ALL" the powers (though I'm still waffling on Hurl, considering Vengeance instead). And occasionally it becomes useful. But mostly it sits waiting to be used, collecting cobwebs.

It's too much knockback, and too little disorientation. I wish it was the other way around.

The times I see it get used most in teams are the instant I do Build Up and start to activate either Full Auto, Ignite, or Rain of Fire, and end up killing a single enemy. Repeat for nearly every spawn.

BABs, statesman, imperious, the bruiser in the thugs set, a lot of low lvl praetorian police use a version of hand clap, several types of freakshow use it, i think almost all NPCs with super strength use it with a few exceptions

i think only BABs, states, and imperious have cheaty versions that do tremendous dmg too lol

I have it on my Tank's solo build. It gives me something to do during the Rage crash.

And here I thought this was going to be a suggestion for a glove slap emote... Which I would have backed!

I actually have Hand Clap on my SD/SS tank, Amazing Ape!
I took it for concept reasons, mostly...
And, while I do not use it frequently, I have found it to be useful from time to time.
Since I tend to solo a lot and I have not IO slotted out the character at all, he occasionally runs into issues and Hand Clap is a good tool to mitigate things.
It's funny... people who min/max can eliminate such powers, but then some people may mistakenly think of those powers as useless.

I also have no problems with leveraging knockback powers and using KB strategically.

I was looking at new build ideas for my tank and was thinking that I'd be okay with ditching Hand Clap... Then I was playing him a bunch and realized that I want to keep that power.

I'd rather have an under-performing character that can use different tricks to leverage those weaknesses, than a character that has a bunch of extra defensive powers and less tricks to use.

Anyway... not like I can't have both! Just saying... when it comes down to one or the other... I'll take the bag of tricks and/or concept over maximizing survival.

So if I'm reading Red Tomax right (which I might not be):

It has a mag 2 stun (PvE)
plus a 50% chance for a mag 1 stun (PvE)

which means it effectively does a 2-3 mag stun? In theory, a mag 2 stun is enough to stun a minion, or even a lieutenant, maybe? Bosses only have 3, so there's a 50% chance to stun a boss, too... right?

too bad jab only gives a 10% chance of a stun.