Is This Guy for Real?


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For a thread about someone who has no objective accomplishments - never published anything in a peer-reviewed journal or evidently patented any of his remarkable innovations - this one has unexpected staying power. This person's main qualifications seem to be the ability to talk up his pseudoscience to third-rate journalists and write press releases for the Internet.

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"Later this month, Marshall Barnes will present a scientific paper at the 7th annual International Mars Society Conference in Chicago.
The Mars Society is not a scientific body, only a "space exploration advocacy" association. Presenting a "scientific" paper at this venue (presumably to distinguish it from the science fiction they also host) is nowhere near close to peer review. If that's the best he can do, then he's one step from a monologue about how those fools at the academy laughed at his ideas.


A huge red flag went up with this testimonial:
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FRED ALAN WOLF, PhD, physicist, author (TAKING THE QUANTUM LEAP, others), cinema star (WHAT THE BLEEP DO WE KNOW? , AMERICAN VIDEO DIARY) March 2005
If this guy is getting support from anyone associated with that fraud award-winning piece of cinematic New Age nonsense passing itself off as a scientific-religious documentary, then his credibility is only taking on water.


"SuperScience"? Seriously? Is this from the Venture Brothers?
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"Barnes...believes bringing his presentation entitled "SuperScience for High School Physics" will get students interested in areas of physics they never thought possible."
What's most dismaying is his habit of making presentations to high school students, an audience in no position to adequately assess his claims but one in need of regular instruction in scientific methodology and the detection of BS.


 

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Originally Posted by TrueGentleman View Post

A huge red flag went up with this testimonial:
If this guy is getting support from anyone associated with that fraud award-winning piece of cinematic New Age nonsense passing itself off as a scientific-religious documentary, then his credibility is only taking on water.
Oh god. I totally glossed over the mention of that film. What complete garbage.


@Quasadu

"We must prepare for DOOM and hope for FREEM." - SirFrederick

 

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Now I remember where i've seen this guy before... all the UFOlogy "philidelphia experiment" nonsense...

Still saying lets wait and see as i haven't seen anyone out right say that what he is saying is not true and in fact thee are reports of people having seen his device in action... And i also know of similar research...

But at the same time I wouldn't be all that surprised to see this as one big sham, especially with connections to the UFOlogist nonsense...


 

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Originally Posted by Durakken View Post
Now I remember where i've seen this guy before... all the UFOlogy "philidelphia experiment" nonsense...

Still saying lets wait and see as i haven't seen anyone out right say that what he is saying is not true and in fact thee are reports of people having seen his device in action... And i also know of similar research...

But at the same time I wouldn't be all that surprised to see this as one big sham, especially with connections to the UFOlogist nonsense...
He's also done the Art Bell (radio) Show a time or two and uses them as "good things" in his quotes section on the speakers websites. Not exactly a glowing endorsement there. My gut instinct is he's a fraud who's paded his resume with jargoned-up terms for common junk which any of us could do. he's just good at self promotion and gotten noticed for basically nothing.


 

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Originally Posted by Durakken View Post
Now I remember where i've seen this guy before... all the UFOlogy "philidelphia experiment" nonsense...

Still saying lets wait and see as i haven't seen anyone out right say that what he is saying is not true and in fact thee are reports of people having seen his device in action... And i also know of similar research...

But at the same time I wouldn't be all that surprised to see this as one big sham, especially with connections to the UFOlogist nonsense...
I don't think we need to wait and see anything. It's staring us right in the face - and if he had demonstrated this thing as actually working, in a convincing way, to anyone with half the brainpower it would take to not be bamboozled by this charlatan, then the aerospace industry would be falling all over themselves to buy his patent, which he does not apparently have.


@Quasadu

"We must prepare for DOOM and hope for FREEM." - SirFrederick

 

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Originally Posted by Quasadu View Post
Thanks.

Unsurprisingly, that turns up no patent results either.
How long does it take to get a patent anyway? All my copyrights took a year to get filed.


 

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Originally Posted by TrueGentleman View Post
The Mars Society is not a scientific body, only a "space exploration advocacy" association. Presenting a "scientific" paper at this venue (presumably to distinguish it from the science fiction they also host) is nowhere near close to peer review. If that's the best he can do, then he's one step from a monologue about how those fools at the academy laughed at his ideas.
Yet a number of scientists speak at that forum.


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Originally Posted by TrueGentleman View Post
"SuperScience"? Seriously? Is this from the Venture Brothers?

What's most dismaying is his habit of making presentations to high school students, an audience in no position to adequately assess his claims but one in need of regular instruction in scientific methodology and the detection of BS.
SuperScience is the name of the program he created to get kids interested in science. I don't believe you're ragging on that. That's pretty petty.


 

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Originally Posted by Durakken View Post
Now I remember where i've seen this guy before... all the UFOlogy "philidelphia experiment" nonsense...

Still saying lets wait and see as i haven't seen anyone out right say that what he is saying is not true and in fact thee are reports of people having seen his device in action... And i also know of similar research...

But at the same time I wouldn't be all that surprised to see this as one big sham, especially with connections to the UFOlogist nonsense...
Yeah, I remember that, but if I remember correctly the major part of the body of evidence he presented about that were that the people debunking the claims about it were frauds themselves.


 

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He's also done the Art Bell (radio) Show
So has Michio Kaku, Phil Plait, and Seth Shostak. Are they frauds too? C2C does have its reality check kind of episodes, y'know. Hell, even Carl Sagan, before he died of cancer, had appeared on Art Bell numerous times.


 

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So has Michio Kaku, Phil Plait, and Seth Shostak. Are they frauds too? C2C does have its reality check kind of episodes, y'know. Hell, even Carl Sagan, before he died of cancer, had appeared on Art Bell numerous times.
You seem to have missed "and lists it as a good thing." Beyond that, the four you listed have a history of actual verified accomplishments, papers and scientific discoveries under their belts. Barnes has none of that, making his claims and his appearances on C2C closer to "contrail nutbag of the week" than Sagan. Appearing an C2C doesn't make one a nut but without a history of not being one, it definitely points to being a nut.

By your logic the guy claiming that the UN is in league with aliens from Zeta Retucli and the Masons to create chemtrails to steralize reptelian aliens disguised as George W Bush so the Illuminati can take over Madison County to steal Clint Eastwoods brain for Obama to perform satanic rituals with is just as credible as Carl Sagan.


 

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By your logic the guy claiming that the UN is in league with aliens from Zeta Retucli and the Masons to create chemtrails to steralize reptelian aliens disguised as George W Bush so the Illuminati can take over Madison County to steal Clint Eastwoods brain for Obama to perform satanic rituals with is just as credible as Carl Sagan.
That's what they want you to think.
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That's what they want you to think.
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