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Posted on: 2011-08-07 21:28 in Comic and Hero-Villain Culture
when I first saw this I was like what are the kooks saying now... then I read the article and was like cool. A source of anti-matter that can be exploited for a number of things and will push us to explore space for energy! but then I remembered, doesn't the magneto-sphere every so often turn off...wouldn't that be a bad thing if that magnetosphere turned off and all those antiprotons dropped on us...
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And thus the new doomsday theory calls for the collapse of the magnetosphere causing the Earth to be obliterated in a massive matter/antimatter explosion.|
Originally Posted by Durakken
when I first saw this I was like what are the kooks saying now... then I read the article and was like cool. A source of anti-matter that can be exploited for a number of things and will push us to explore space for energy! but then I remembered, doesn't the magneto-sphere every so often turn off...wouldn't that be a bad thing if that magnetosphere turned off and all those antiprotons dropped on us...
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But yea, it's a cool discovery/
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Well let's hope it doesn't, because it would mean that there wasn't any matter between it and us, which would odd. Also, space is big - really big - and while matter/antimatter annihilation produces a lot of energy, in the context of the size of space, it's really not that much.
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Originally Posted by Durakken
...wouldn't that be a bad thing if that magnetosphere turned off and all those antiprotons dropped on us...
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Aren't we in trouble if the magentosphere shuts off anyway? Isn't that what keeps out a lot of the dangerous radiation from the sun?
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Yes it does, but I may be remembering this wrong, it has turned off in the past for short periods it didn't cause too many problems... of course that would have been 100s of thousands of years ago whn it happened but... yeah >.>
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Originally Posted by mousedroid
Aren't we in trouble if the magentosphere shuts off anyway? Isn't that what keeps out a lot of the dangerous radiation from the sun?
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Originally Posted by Durakken
Yes it does, but I may be remembering this wrong, it has turned off in the past for short periods it didn't cause too many problems... of course that would have been 100s of thousands of years ago whn it happened but... yeah >.>
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Yeah we'd be pretty screwed without a magnetosphere even if there wasn't any anti-matter out there. Basically the main reason why Mars is not currently a "second Earth" life-wise right now is that most of its atmosphere has been blasted away by solar wind due to its lack of a significant magnetosphere.
I don't think the Earth's magnetosphere has ever completely "turned off" before. But there is plenty of evidence for how the magnetic north/south lines periodically switch poles. This means that like every million years or so a compass would switch between pointing north and pointing south.
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I foresee this being worked into a remake of Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea somehow (though that movie may be so far off the radar that even Hollywood doesn't remember it's there to recycle). For those who don't know, the original involved the twin horrors of the Van Allen belts catching fire (for some reason) and Frankie Avalon being a submarine officer.
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I thought we had this anti-matter discussion before. It's not until you can gather enough anti-matter particles into a anti-matter mass large enough to be seen with the human eye that you have enough anti-matter that if annihilated through contact with matter would release enough energy to be dangerous to nearby humans. So, it would take billions of anti-matter particles to get to a firecracker level of damage.
The article doesn't say how many anti-protons are caught in the Van Allen belt or their density... since the VAB is freakin' huge. It could contain trillions of trillions of anti-protons in the VAB and it's density would still be so rarefied, it would be as if they weren't even there.
Then just try to collect them...
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I foresee this being worked into a remake of Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea somehow (though that movie may be so far off the radar that even Hollywood doesn't remember it's there to recycle). For those who don't know, the original involved the twin horrors of the Van Allen belts catching fire (for some reason) and Frankie Avalon being a submarine officer.
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When the magnetosphere switches, it goes through a few thousand years of complicated behavior. During that time it's very weak and it has a lot of holes in it. (It actually goes from being a dipole to a multiple pole field. Those multiple poles eventually migrate back together and re-form the north and south poles.) So it's effectively 'off' for a while.|
Originally Posted by Lothic
I don't think the Earth's magnetosphere has ever completely "turned off" before. But there is plenty of evidence for how the magnetic north/south lines periodically switch poles. This means that like every million years or so a compass would switch between pointing north and pointing south.
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But that wouldn't affect us very much. It's not the magnetosphere that protects us organic life from the sun; it's the ozone layer that does that, and the fact that we have miles of atmosphere between us and the solar wind. Life would barely notice the disappearance of the magnetosphere. There would be some increased storm activity (holes in the magnetosphere are correlated to increased cloud production from ionic seeding) and terrific auroras, and that's about it.
On the other hand, electronic devices would be screwed, from electrical transformers to consumer appliances...and orbital satellites may as well be in a microwave oven. We humans would survive, but we'd also be reduced to a pre-industrial age. Whether that counts as 'survival' for the species or not is up to you.
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Yes technically the magnetosphere alone does not protect us from all the various cosmic radiations. But if the magnetosphere was totally gone (as opposed to its periodic reversals) then the ozone (along with the rest of the atmosphere) would be left unprotected from the solar wind. Once the ozone was burned away we'd eventually be SOL.|
Originally Posted by RemusShepherd
When the magnetosphere switches, it goes through a few thousand years of complicated behavior. During that time it's very weak and it has a lot of holes in it. (It actually goes from being a dipole to a multiple pole field. Those multiple poles eventually migrate back together and re-form the north and south poles.) So it's effectively 'off' for a while.
But that wouldn't affect us very much. It's not the magnetosphere that protects us organic life from the sun; it's the ozone layer that does that, and the fact that we have miles of atmosphere between us and the solar wind. Life would barely notice the disappearance of the magnetosphere. There would be some increased storm activity (holes in the magnetosphere are correlated to increased cloud production from ionic seeding) and terrific auroras, and that's about it. On the other hand, electronic devices would be screwed, from electrical transformers to consumer appliances...and orbital satellites may as well be in a microwave oven. We humans would survive, but we'd also be reduced to a pre-industrial age. Whether that counts as 'survival' for the species or not is up to you. |
It's probably most accurate to say as far as life is concerned all of these things play a part.
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