2XP: your guesses?


Amy_Amp

 

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During 2XP, you can traditionally do the following:
Sell generic IO's at 1-2 million each
Double the price on low-end set IO's (sell 10 million inf IO's for 20 million, like that)

... what do you think is going to happen to the prices on high-end IO's? I've currently got a 3% Defense IO that I'm selling for 2.5 billion (I know, everyone else is selling for 2.25) and I'm wondering if it's going to go to 3 billion after 2XP, or possibly even higher. . .

I don't think uniques are going to go up MUCH, because there are a couple hundred spare ones out there for e.g. Numina's; but Kin Combat, LoTG global Def, and other shinies could go pretty high pretty fast.

What does everyone else think?


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Originally Posted by Fulmens View Post
What does everyone else think?
I think the market as a whole is going to have its usual DXP spasm, salvage prices are going to rise, desirable recipes are going to shoot up for at least the short-medium term, dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria (ah, sorry, I seem to have descended into quoting films).

I see common and rare salvage prices going up, uncommons seems to have been a little unstable recently anyway, so I see those rising too, recipes are likely to increase due to the usual inf earning versus recipe drop rate discrepancy.

Generally then chaos, and a chance for those who are selling to profit.


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It really depends on whats being farmed. If its straight missions, then high end salvage/recipes are going to go up, low/mid are going to drop at first, then shoot up again (people PL to 25-30, then stop to work on another character dumping salvage as it fills, then coming back and buying at BUY IT NAO prices) and most of your purples/high end recipes are going to sky rocket.

With the fact AE is unaffected, and iXP is unaffected i do see salvage going sky high all around (especially for about 2 weeks after DXP) and very few 50s being played, so very little supply for high end recipes, but extreme demand for them with all the new level 50s that will ding, but not get much play time as a level 50.

If that makes any sense at all


 

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I got a character with just about all of the market slots full, a full tray of enhancements, and ones in my e-mail just waiting for this weekend to hit. I'll be very happy to clear all of that out shortly. If salvage goes crazy, then that's what AE is for. If I wanted to, I could likely cake walk making a billion this weekend alone. I could likely do more, but I want to level as well.


 

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I just realized, this is going to completely ruin my next project. I was planning to make a big spreadsheet with weights and costs and such for all of the Bronze, Silver, and Gold rolls you can get in AE. That would let me determine the best way to spend tickets for all the new Claws/Electric Brute farmers I've created due to the "Cebr" guide I posted in the Brute forums. But prices are going to be completely wacked for a few weeks most likely. Hmm...


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You just need to wait until it settles back down. I'm not going to IO out a build for a while due to this.


 

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I just realized, this is going to completely ruin my next project. I was planning to make a big spreadsheet with weights and costs and such for all of the Bronze, Silver, and Gold rolls you can get in AE. That would let me determine the best way to spend tickets for all the new Claws/Electric Brute farmers I've created due to the "Cebr" guide I posted in the Brute forums. But prices are going to be completely wacked for a few weeks most likely. Hmm...
Get the data you can get today and tomorrow ASAP.


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I predict: Ghost town. I21 beta starts in 5 hours!!!!


 

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So it's crunch time if I want to get my SS/Fire brute to 50 and IO'd up?


 

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So it's crunch time if I want to get my SS/Fire brute to 50 and IO'd up?
Bought my purples and PvP IOs three weeks ago to avoid the crush.


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I just realized, this is going to completely ruin my next project. I was planning to make a big spreadsheet with weights and costs and such for all of the Bronze, Silver, and Gold rolls you can get in AE. That would let me determine the best way to spend tickets for all the new Claws/Electric Brute farmers I've created due to the "Cebr" guide I posted in the Brute forums. But prices are going to be completely wacked for a few weeks most likely. Hmm...
Anecdotally, 35-39 Silver rolls have been doing great for me.
Pulling 5,000,000 - 40,000,000 per roll out there excluding the really crappy stuff. Been doing much better than the Bronze rolls of late.


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I think prices will go up for 2 or 3 weeks after double xp weekend.


 

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There's a potentially interesting wrinkle been thrown up by i21 Beta being on at the same time as DXP.

And I'm not talking about a proportion of the population being off on Beta rather than playing DXP.

I'm referring to the fact that unless you've got about 4 years of vet status behind you (as I understand it), then Free/Premium players don't get IO access at all in the current build, even generics.

So, if there are people looking at going free/premium and don't have the requisite veteran status, and aren't planning to buy the IO licences when i21 goes live, will they start offloading their IO's onto the markets? Or is that a complete random bit of speculation? And if they do offload, what would this do to prices between now and i21/Freedom launch?

The long term hardcore market goons aren't likely to be affected, as I suspect they'll mostly subscribe still, but this may mean a reduction in the market for IO's once it goes live.

Just something that occurred to me, that's all.


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Salvage prices seem unchanged so far. Have the AE farms made double xp obsolete?


 

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Well... missed most of 2xp weekend due to Wifely family visiting... no amount of coin that I could have made would have made up for the wifey aggro.


 

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Salavage prices have gone up and down, depending if it's a rare salvage or not. Atleast I've noticed the rare (orange) salvage gone down ALOT in price. Just my opinion.



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I sold a lot of overpriced generics (I had sellers at 1.2 million, 2.1 million and 4.1 million; the biggest sales I noticed were a couple of 8-millions and a 10-million.) Probably 200 million profit there. Flipped a bunch of respecs at normal pricing. Flipped 30 or 40 common salvage for 500K+ each.

People haven't bought any of my supershinies at superprices yet, but the traditional buying binge starts AFTER 2XP. (and the traditional salvage prices have gone down during the middle of 2XP except for the random items that sell out and spike; any price hikes will likely happen tonight or next Friday.)

I always think "This may be the 2XP where we don't have huge price spikes." And it may. On the other hand, there's enough floating inf that a lot of people don't care whether they pay 215M for a respec or 300 . I love those people.


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People haven't bought any of my supershinies at superprices yet, but the traditional buying binge starts AFTER 2XP.
+1. My most loaded up character didn't sell a single thing the first two days of 2x exp weekend. After that things started to move.


 

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My guesses were right and it was fun to flip some 25-30 generic IOs for great starting cash on my new lowbies.

Still need to check if my pie-in-the-sky priced generic IO ever sold.


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There's a potentially interesting wrinkle been thrown up by i21 Beta being on at the same time as DXP.

And I'm not talking about a proportion of the population being off on Beta rather than playing DXP.

I'm referring to the fact that unless you've got about 4 years of vet status behind you (as I understand it), then Free/Premium players don't get IO access at all in the current build, even generics.

So, if there are people looking at going free/premium and don't have the requisite veteran status, and aren't planning to buy the IO licences when i21 goes live, will they start offloading their IO's onto the markets? Or is that a complete random bit of speculation? And if they do offload, what would this do to prices between now and i21/Freedom launch?

The long term hardcore market goons aren't likely to be affected, as I suspect they'll mostly subscribe still, but this may mean a reduction in the market for IO's once it goes live.

Just something that occurred to me, that's all.
I would guess this is not going to happen much. People who are happy to play without IO's probably don't have a lot of IO's to start with. And why would they bother selling them? If you aren't using IO's, then you have nothing much to buy. SO's are dirt cheap these days. Keep a few million inf to start off with, and your freemium characters will never find anything they can't buy.

Personally, I was surprised that generic IO prices didn't spike the way I'd been hoping, though I did manage to sell a bunch of stuff I hadn't wanted anyhow. I spent most of the weekend in the kitchen, and when I was in game I focused on xp (and did rather poorly there as well).


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I would guess this is not going to happen much. People who are happy to play without IO's probably don't have a lot of IO's to start with. And why would they bother selling them? If you aren't using IO's, then you have nothing much to buy. SO's are dirt cheap these days. Keep a few million inf to start off with, and your freemium characters will never find anything they can't buy.

Personally, I was surprised that generic IO prices didn't spike the way I'd been hoping, though I did manage to sell a bunch of stuff I hadn't wanted anyhow. I spent most of the weekend in the kitchen, and when I was in game I focused on xp (and did rather poorly there as well).
Prices haven't spiked much on generics IME, but demand's definitely been up. (I still make my money mostly off generic IO's, force of habit mainly)

I've been listing a few times a day over the weekend, and it's not slowed down yet.

There were a few spikes on certain IO's, Resistance and Heals, IIRC, but they were small and short lived. Either that or I missed all the spikes through unlucky timing <shrug>.

I'm not going to complain. Through Generic sales, and mostly selling drops, I've made about a Billion this weekend. And that's far higher than normal for me. (by mostly, I mean that about 85% came from a couple of lucky purple drops, but I'll take it where I can find it )


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I was able to log in a few times over the weekend and sell a tray full of assorted lvl 30-40 accuracy IOs for a million inf each.


 

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I certainly saw generics spike. Like mentioned above, I was selling things like common L50 Run Speed enhancers for 1M inf. I even sold one for 1.5M. A few other commons benefited from this as well. L50 Recharge was another one I noticed (and got part of the action for).

It was a brief spike to be sure, but it was definitely a spike.

Overall, it was a wonderful weekend for getting memorization badges. People were pumping out low- and mid-level salvage, and prices on ones I looked into dropped nicely, while the price ceiling / demand for crafted IOs shot way up. So I was crafting on the cheap and selling some things for 2-3x their unmemorized crafting cost.

That may have amounted to small potatoes in the scope of my overall horde, but it was still pretty nice.


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Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
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See, there's a bit of a disconnect on "spikes." Stuff I look at hits 800K regularly (the infamous midlevel End Mods, for instance.) So 1M is not that much of a change. It's still 5-20 times as much as it costs you to make, though.

(300M or so for me in generics, 300M or so for me in flippin' respec recipes. Not much traditional selling, I may have overpriced.)


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I define a spike as a major increase in price of the item compared to its recent-but-relatively-long-term average. It's more meaningful if its sustained, making it more of a hill than a spike. If it lasts for 10 sales, that's not really significant. If it lasts a day, that's more worth notice.

I sell a lot of the things I was selling normally, and I was selling them for 2-3x what I experience as their longer term average. I sell L50 recharge IOs for 1M from time to time, but but this weekend I was selling basically all of them for that or more.


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American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA