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Do you think the Devs will ever make a dark controll set for Dominators and Controllers?

I think it would be cool! I would make a Dark/psi Dom


 

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Word on the street is that Doms will be getting a new set sometime after I21, basically as a repayment for not getting any powerset proliferation in I21. Whether that is Dark Control, some sort of Dark Illusion set, or something else is yet to be seen. It's also not clear whether or not Controllers will get it, too. Just keep in mind though that they just got electric control recently.


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I could see doms getting a new set after I21 despite getting elec control with going rogue in I18 which is still relatively recent. Considering there's something new for I think literally every non-epic archetype except doms in I21 if you could the paid sets. Two new sets for some, even.


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Originally Posted by TheScotty View Post
Do you think the Devs will ever make a dark controll set for Dominators and Controllers?

I think it would be cool! I would make a Dark/psi Dom
I'm just hoping that any new control sets do NOT come with a pet (and are balanced appropriately for that). That's what makes Mind Control so superior.


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Do you think the Devs will ever make a dark controll set for Dominators and Controllers?

I think it would be cool! I would make a Dark/psi Dom
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Actually Synapse and I have been puzzling over the dark sets. Just for fun, I'll shed some light on the subject.


So, lets start this with a riddle, since the explanation is just as incomprehensible. Why does Dark Miasma overlapping Dark Control powers make a straight port of Dark Manipulation problematic?


The explanation is, there are a couple powersets that would be sharing an interesting combination of powers. For example, Controllers want Dark Control and Dark Miasma, except Dark Miasma is already a very control heavy set which would supply a lot of Dark Controls powers. Combining Dark/Dark this way could lead to a lot of overalap.

Dominators would want Dark Control and Dark Assault, so Dark Assault would have to be careful not to include control powers from Dark Blast or Dark melee.

Blasters are easier, however the powers that go to blasters would likely be included in Dark Assault, which goes opposite dark control.

Then there are the general AT wide no-no's. Such as: giving armor powers to non-armored classes, or overlapping powers alread in patron pools.


So in the end, it's not designing one powerset. It's designing 3 different powersets:

Dark Control/Dark Miasma for Controllers
Dark Control/Dark Assault for Dominators
Dark Blast/Dark Manipulation for Blasters
Fast forward to: http://www.cityofheroes.com/news/new..._power_se.html

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Blaster
  • Dark Blast (Primary)
  • Darkness Manipulation (Secondary)
...

Since our talented artists are working their rear ends off making content in Issue 21 shine, this round of Power Set Proliferation required that there would be no art time used.

With Dark Blast / Dark Manip on the way for blasters, this means that Dark Control for Dominators, Dark Assault for Dominators, and Dark Control for Controllers have been power-mapped out.

The requirement that this round of power-set proliferation require no new animations or art assets means that powers in those sets require new animations, and will not be using animations that are already available in the game.

So yes, Dark Control / Dark Assault is on the way, when the art team has time for it.

My suspicion is that because it hasn't been announced yet, Dark Control / Dark Assault will likely be the feature(s) punted to a later work schedule in order to fix the collective disaster with the proposed C.O.T. revamp.


 

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My Dark Control Idea:
Penumbral Grasp 1 Ranged, Minor DoT(Negative), Foe Immobilize, -To-Hit
Soul Storm 1 Ranged, Moderate Damage over Time(Negative), Foe: Hold
Tenebrous Tentacles 2 Ranged (Cone), Minor DoT(Negative), Foe Immobilize, -To-Hit
Shadow Fall 6 Toggle: PBAoE, Team Stealth, +DEF(All), +Res(Energy, Negative, Psionics, Fear)
Death Shroud 8 Toggle: PBAoE, Minor DoT(Negative)
Dark Pit 12 Ranged (Targeted AoE), Foe Disorient
Death Scream 18 PBAoE, Foe Hold, Minor DoT(Negative)
Tar Patch 26 Ranged (Location AoE), Foe -SPD, -Jump, -Fly, -Res(All)
Minor Shadow 32 Summon Three Minor Shadow : Melee, Range Minor DMG(Negative)

My Controller Dark Miasma Changes:

Twilight Grasp 1 Ranged, Foe -Regen, -DMG, -To-Hit, Team Heal
Darkest Night 2 Toggle: Ranged (Targeted AoE), Foe -DMG, -To-Hit
Howling Twilight 4 Ranged (Targeted AoE), Minor DMG(Negative), Foe Disorient, -Regen, - Recharge, -SPD, Ally Rez
Soul Consumption 10 Point Blank Area of Effect Moderate Damage(Negative), Team +Endurance
Dark Thoughts 16 Ranged, Ally +Res(Disorient, Hold, Sleep, Immobilize, Fear, Confuse), +Perception, +Resist Psi DMG + Resist End Drain
Fearsome Stare 20 Ranged (Cone), Foe Fear, -To-Hit
Petrifying Gaze 28 Ranged, Foe Hold
Black Hole 35 Ranged (Targeted AoE), Foe Intangible
Dark Servant 38 Summon Dark Servant: Ranged, Debuff, Special

The reasons I changed the Dark Miasma for Controllers is that I did not think it made sense that they have a toggle team stealth in some of the primary powers and have it available in the secondary as well. I moved Tar Patch to the primary to avoid having the ability to have two Location AoE. I would really like to see how well Quick Sand and Tar Patch would stack, but I rather get a new power instead.

P.S. this is my idea and is not the actual dark control primary.

P.S.S. I also thing Opressive Gloom would be a good alternative for Death Shroud since Soul Master for trollers does not have that power.

P.S.S.S. I also think Tar Patch and Death Shroud can be swapped in leveling order.


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The day they allow Mind/* Controllers to get a pet, is the day Nemesis's Plots are revealed to be media speculation.


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proposed C.O.T. revamp.
The Cavern of Transcendence is getting a revamp? Or is there some other CoT getting revamped? Either way, I've not heard about it, can you share or link the info?

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The Cavern of Transcendence is getting a revamp? Or is there some other CoT getting revamped? Either way, I've not heard about it, can you share or link the info?
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Circle of Thorns. Big thread here.
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The day they allow Mind/* Controllers to get a pet, is the day Nemesis's Plots are revealed to be media speculation.
Just FYI Mind/* Controllers can get a pet.

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