A premium feature I'm surprised no one has asked for yet with the new F2P system


Arcanaville

 

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Wow. I can't believe that some of you still don't believe that the devs won't do this because it goes against their design for the game. Even with quotes straight from the devs. Get it through your heads, this is NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN. I also think that a few of you don't understand this F2P concept. I think you need to go read up about it before spouting anything about it anymore.


 

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Originally Posted by Sharker_Quint_OOI View Post
Wow. I can't believe that some of you still don't believe that the devs won't do this because it goes against their design for the game. Even with quotes straight from the devs. Get it through your heads, this is NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN. I also think that a few of you don't understand this F2P concept. I think you need to go read up about it before spouting anything about it anymore.
Hey Sharker.

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okay, I just asked Positron about this subject on Ustream.

He did answer it.

According to Positron the subject of an archtype or power-set respec has been asked for internally.

The developers have done research into the possibility of such a respec.

According to Positron an archtype-respec is functionally impossible.

A power-set respec is technically possible.

However, it is a "lot of work", and as such not currently on the development schedule.

Positron also commented that "if" they did it, they would not know how much it would cost in the Paragon Market in order to cover development costs.

So, I stand corrected on where the developers stand. It appears that the Developers position on a power-set respec have softened from the flat no it was before.


 

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Originally Posted by je_saist View Post
okay, I just asked Positron about this subject on Ustream.

He did answer it.

According to Positron the subject of an archtype or power-set respec has been asked for internally.

The developers have done research into the possibility of such a respec.

According to Positron an archtype-respec is functionally impossible.

A power-set respec is technically possible.

However, it is a "lot of work", and as such not currently on the development schedule.

Positron also commented that "if" they did it, they would not know how much it would cost in the Paragon Market in order to cover development costs.

So, I stand corrected on where the developers stand. It appears that the Developers position on a power-set respec have softened from the flat no it was before.
Thank you for getting that answer from Posi. You may have a bacon flavored internet cookie.


 

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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project View Post
You disagree that the devs said that? Sorry to burst your bubble but that's exactly what they said.

We all have characters we'd use this on if it was something the devs wanted to allow, however they don't and their constant refusal to allow it is a great example that they aren't solely motivated by profit. In their eyes some things aren't worth doing regardless of how much money they could make on it.
Not disagreeing they said that, I'm disagreeing that making this change makes the game less alt-friendly. I'd still roll alts even if I could change my "main(s)".

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Originally Posted by je_saist View Post
okay, I just asked Positron about this subject on Ustream.

He did answer it.

According to Positron the subject of an archtype or power-set respec has been asked for internally.

The developers have done research into the possibility of such a respec.

According to Positron an archtype-respec is functionally impossible.

A power-set respec is technically possible.

However, it is a "lot of work", and as such not currently on the development schedule.

Positron also commented that "if" they did it, they would not know how much it would cost in the Paragon Market in order to cover development costs.

So, I stand corrected on where the developers stand. It appears that the Developers position on a power-set respec have softened from the flat no it was before.
Cool, makes sense, and pretty much what I expected if anything further was to be said on this. Who knows, maybe we'll see it a few issues down the line after incarnates are done.

Best,
-MT


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Originally Posted by je_saist View Post
okay, I just asked Positron about this subject on Ustream.

He did answer it.

According to Positron the subject of an archtype or power-set respec has been asked for internally.

The developers have done research into the possibility of such a respec.

According to Positron an archtype-respec is functionally impossible.

A power-set respec is technically possible.

However, it is a "lot of work", and as such not currently on the development schedule.

Positron also commented that "if" they did it, they would not know how much it would cost in the Paragon Market in order to cover development costs.

So, I stand corrected on where the developers stand. It appears that the Developers position on a power-set respec have softened from the flat no it was before.
Positron did not say that because powerset respec was a lot of work it was not the development schedule. Positron said powerset respec was not on the development schedule which is dev-speak for "we're not working on it" and separately from that said it would take so much work to implement he had no idea what they could possibly price the feature at (assuming it was a Paragon Store feature).

In jest, he suggested agreement with a suggestion by a ustream comment that suggested $50. Although that was obviously a joke, it nevertheless implies in broad strokes both the level of effort involved and the likelihood we'll be seeing this feature anytime in our foreseeable future.

Positron did seem to not be unilaterally opposed to powerset respecs, but that represents only the first of many other non-technical barriers to them being implemented.


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Originally Posted by Arcanaville View Post
Positron did not say that because powerset respec was a lot of work it was not the development schedule. Positron said powerset respec was not on the development schedule which is dev-speak for "we're not working on it" and separately from that said it would take so much work to implement he had no idea what they could possibly price the feature at (assuming it was a Paragon Store feature).

In jest, he suggested agreement with a suggestion by a ustream comment that suggested $50. Although that was obviously a joke, it nevertheless implies in broad strokes both the level of effort involved and the likelihood we'll be seeing this feature anytime in our foreseeable future.

Positron did seem to not be unilaterally opposed to powerset respecs, but that represents only the first of many other non-technical barriers to them being implemented.
Translation from Devspeak to Forumspeak:

No.


 

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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project View Post
Then you are delusional. What will actually happen is that the power gamers (and we have thousands of power gamers) will use those respecs to change their second and third builds to different archetypes/powersets so one character can have a farming AT/build, a PvP AT/build, and an incarnate AT/build.

Respecs only apply to the active build so changing one doesn't change the others.

And since builds are directly linked to the characters level they need only level one build up to 50 and the other two are auto-leveled to instant 50's.
I don't know why your assuming a powerset respec would work in the same multiple builds way as our current respecs


 

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Originally Posted by ThePill View Post
Totally disagree.

I actually did re-roll a SR/fire tank to kin/energy brute. That's the beauty of fiery fists combat-only aura. Got the fiery looking hands for attacks and got to look more kung-fu in the process.
if you rerolled that character as one with 2 different sets and a different AT I cant objectively see that original roll as a character you enjoyed playing

That character was not turned into a fire/sr brute or scrapper so it doesn't really apply to that part of what i said either


 

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Originally Posted by Cheetatron View Post
I don't know why your assuming a powerset respec would work in the same multiple builds way as our current respecs
I don't know why you're assuming that the devs would change builds so they were linked to the primary power set/AT choice.


But it doesn't matter because the devs have given us their official response via Ustream which is they aren't doing it.