Mind/Psi can do it without purples. Mine only uses 2 purples sets and runs with 120% global recharge without Hasten.
SG: Guadians of Paragon - VG: Paragon's Darkness
The Usual Suspects: Fimboolvetr (Icer Tank), Tsukiyomi (Mind/Psi/Ice Dom), Smiting Dragon (Dm/Sr Scrap), Widow Mortis (NW)
Up and Comers: Ameterasu (Km/Reg Scrap), Arrhymian (Elec/Nin Stalk), TDMKII (Bot/Traps MM)
Sorry for the thread jack but I wanted to ask if a person was to use all purples whats the lowest possible level you can exemplar to and still have perma dom with no haste. Only saying exemplar to not for the set bonuses but to have the powers active so they still count or do set bonuses on purples still work even at lvl 1 if you dont have the powers those where slotted into?
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This is a rough draft of a long term project to make my mind/psi dom perma at level 25. It doesn't do it without hasten, however. I could probably tweak it with 3 additional purple sets to achieve it without hasten, though.|
Originally Posted by EvilRyu
Sorry for the thread jack but I wanted to ask if a person was to use all purples whats the lowest possible level you can exemplar to and still have perma dom with no haste. Only saying exemplar to not for the set bonuses but to have the powers active so they still count or do set bonuses on purples still work even at lvl 1 if you dont have the powers those where slotted into?
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SG: Guadians of Paragon - VG: Paragon's Darkness
The Usual Suspects: Fimboolvetr (Icer Tank), Tsukiyomi (Mind/Psi/Ice Dom), Smiting Dragon (Dm/Sr Scrap), Widow Mortis (NW)
Up and Comers: Ameterasu (Km/Reg Scrap), Arrhymian (Elec/Nin Stalk), TDMKII (Bot/Traps MM)
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Purple set bonuses remain active even if the power is not available.
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Originally Posted by EvilRyu
Sorry for the thread jack but I wanted to ask if a person was to use all purples whats the lowest possible level you can exemplar to and still have perma dom with no haste. Only saying exemplar to not for the set bonuses but to have the powers active so they still count or do set bonuses on purples still work even at lvl 1 if you dont have the powers those where slotted into?
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I'm going to stand by level 25 for my answer to your question. Here's my tweaked build. 140% recharge without hasten and hasten is still in the build o.0
EDIT: Pardon. 135% at level 25. 140% at level 30 (technically this would be levels 22 and 27).
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SG: Guadians of Paragon - VG: Paragon's Darkness
The Usual Suspects: Fimboolvetr (Icer Tank), Tsukiyomi (Mind/Psi/Ice Dom), Smiting Dragon (Dm/Sr Scrap), Widow Mortis (NW)
Up and Comers: Ameterasu (Km/Reg Scrap), Arrhymian (Elec/Nin Stalk), TDMKII (Bot/Traps MM)
Not a single purple in my Plant/Fire/Fire and I'm Permadom and capped on range defense. Not that hard to do and one of the cheaper builds I've made.
Lots, I would say most builds can do perma-dom without purples. I expect most builds could do it by the early 30s. This is natural build, not talking about exemping down. Generally most exemplar builds would have a hard time going below 27, a number of good sets only go down to 30. As Infini posted, it's possible, but usually more effort then I'm interested in. For getting perma-dom at low levels, I rely a lot on LOTG +recharge, Basilisk Gaze, and some others. Doms have a fairly easy time capping 6.25 bonuses, so thats 31.25, 5 LOTGs and 2 Basilisk gaze, thats another 52.5, that right there is enough for perma dom I think, though I personally like a bit more. If you fit in a melee attack or pbaoe, you can grab a 5% bonus or two. Generally you have to get into the low 30's to get enough slots. But it's definitely possible.
Here is a sample build I'm working towards on a Plant/Fire I'm leveling. I take alot of mules for LOTG, but I don't really have slots for anything else, so anything I take there is going to be unslotted, so an LOTG mule helps me get to permadom. Build is fully functional, may not have everything everyone wants, but works well enough for me. Has 88.75% global recharge by 34, 82.5% by 31.
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Mind posting your build, Crysys? I have a Plant/Fire/Fire (my main) that I haven't been able to get capped range defense on, despite my best efforts.
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Originally Posted by Crysys
Not a single purple in my Plant/Fire/Fire and I'm Permadom and capped on range defense. Not that hard to do and one of the cheaper builds I've made.
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I build pretty much all my dominators for perma-dom by the early/late 30's. Exactly how you do it depends on your primary/secondary and power choices, but some things are pretty common through all my builds:
LoTG +Recharge (7.5% global) - I generally slot up at least 4 of these by 30. Stealth, invisibility, grant invisibility and either combat jumping or hover. You could fit in a 5th if you took both CJ and hover, although that might be to many throwaway powers.
6.25% global recharge bonuses: These are usually easy to get on dom's - decimation in ranged attacks, positrons blast in cones. You can also use the following sets depending on your primary:
Malaise's Illusion (confuse)
Stupify(stun)
Call of the Sandman (sleep)
Glimpse of the abyss (fear)
Call to Arms/Expedient re-inforcement (pets)
5% Global Recharge bonuses: You can get these from crushing impact for melee attacks and Obliteration for PBAoE attacks - I also sometimes can fit in a doctored wounds set in heal other/heal self or something like spirit tree for plant dom's, although its hard to get enough free slots to use them on less usefull powers this early in the build.
7.5% global recharge bonuses: Any dom can generally slot 2 Gaze of the Basilisk sets for 2 more 7.5% bonuses on top of the LoTG. Later in builds I sometimes squeeze in a sting of the manticore or kinetic crash - but again, that's a lot of slots on what is basically going to be a throw away power for global bonuses, so fitting them in before the 40's is rare.
The real trick prior to the late 30's/early 40's is having enough slots to fit in the sets that take 5-6 IO's for the global recharge bonus without crippling your build by slotting kinetic crash sets in attack powers or something similar. Assuming you can fit in 5 6.25% bonuses, 4 LoTG recharges and 2 GoTB sets, that gives you (5 x 6.25) + (6 x 7.5) = 76.5% global recharge, which puts you just at perma-dom. You will be slightly over, as 70% is barely perma-dom, but things are really not comfortable until about 90% - before that you have to queue up domination/hasten as soon as they recharge and can't afford any -recharge debuffs.
Globals: @Midnight Mystique/@Magik13
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My Mind/Fire is Permadom at lvl 22 thanks to the help of lvl 25 LotG's and purples.
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Originally Posted by EvilRyu
Sorry for the thread jack but I wanted to ask if a person was to use all purples whats the lowest possible level you can exemplar to and still have perma dom with no haste. Only saying exemplar to not for the set bonuses but to have the powers active so they still count or do set bonuses on purples still work even at lvl 1 if you dont have the powers those where slotted into?
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I'm interested in how many builds can achieve perma-dom w/out purple recipes. Here is the Dom I currently play:
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Sinister Subzero: Level 50 Science Dominator
Primary Power Set: Ice Control
Secondary Power Set: Icy Assault
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Concealment
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Ice Mastery
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Level 1: Block of Ice
(A) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Hold
(3) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Recharge
(3) Basilisk's Gaze - Recharge/Hold
(5) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge/Hold
(5) Lockdown - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge/Hold
(7) Lockdown - Chance for +2 Mag Hold
Level 1: Ice Bolt
(A) Decimation - Accuracy/Damage
(7) Decimation - Damage/Endurance
(9) Decimation - Damage/Recharge
(9) Decimation - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge
(11) Decimation - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(11) Devastation - Chance of Hold
Level 2: Ice Sword
(A) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage
(13) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance
(13) Crushing Impact - Damage/Recharge
(15) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(15) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
Level 4: Frostbite
(A) Enfeebled Operation - Accuracy/Recharge
(17) Enfeebled Operation - Endurance/Immobilize
(17) Enfeebled Operation - Accuracy/Endurance
(19) Enfeebled Operation - Immobilize/Range
(19) Enfeebled Operation - Accuracy/Immobilize/Recharge
Level 6: Combat Jumping
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
Level 8: Hasten
(A) Recharge Reduction IO
(23) Recharge Reduction IO
(23) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 10: Ice Blast
(A) Decimation - Accuracy/Damage
(25) Decimation - Damage/Endurance
(25) Decimation - Damage/Recharge
(27) Decimation - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge
(27) Decimation - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(29) Devastation - Chance of Hold
Level 12: Ice Slick
(A) Endurance Reduction IO
Level 14: Super Speed
(A) Endurance Reduction IO
(29) Run Speed IO
Level 16: Stealth
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
(31) Endurance Reduction IO
Level 18: Shiver
(A) Accuracy IO
(31) Range IO
Level 20: Frost Breath
(A) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage
(21) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
(31) Positron's Blast - Damage/Endurance
(33) Positron's Blast - Damage/Recharge
(33) Positron's Blast - Damage/Range
(46) Range IO
Level 22: Maneuvers
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
(34) Endurance Reduction IO
Level 24: Tactics
(A) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff
(34) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Recharge
(34) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Endurance/Recharge
(36) Adjusted Targeting - Endurance/Recharge
(36) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Endurance
Level 26: Glacier
(A) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Hold
(36) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Recharge
(37) Basilisk's Gaze - Recharge/Hold
(37) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge/Hold
(37) Lockdown - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge/Hold
(39) Lockdown - Chance for +2 Mag Hold
Level 28: Vengeance
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
Level 30: Invisibility
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
Level 32: Jack Frost
(A) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Recharge
(33) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage
(39) Expedient Reinforcement - Damage/Endurance
(39) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(40) Expedient Reinforcement - Endurance/Damage/Recharge
Level 35: Ice Slash
(A) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage
(40) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance
(42) Crushing Impact - Damage/Recharge
(42) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(42) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
Level 38: Bitter Ice Blast
(A) Devastation - Accuracy/Damage
(40) Devastation - Damage/Endurance
(43) Devastation - Damage/Recharge
(43) Devastation - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(43) Devastation - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
(45) Devastation - Chance of Hold
Level 41: Hibernate
(A) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 44: Hoarfrost
(A) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Endurance
(45) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Recharge
(45) Doctored Wounds - Recharge
(46) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Endurance/Recharge
(46) Doctored Wounds - Heal
Level 47: Ice Storm
(A) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage
(48) Positron's Blast - Damage/Endurance
(48) Positron's Blast - Damage/Recharge
(48) Positron's Blast - Damage/Range
(50) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
Level 49: Power Boost
(A) Endurance Reduction IO
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Level 1: Brawl
(A) Damage Increase IO
Level 1: Sprint
(A) Run Speed IO
Level 2: Rest
(A) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 1: Domination
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift
(A) Run Speed IO
Level 2: Health
(A) Miracle - +Recovery
Level 2: Hurdle
(A) Jumping IO
Level 2: Stamina
(A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
(21) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Accuracy
(50) Performance Shifter - EndMod
(50) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Recharge
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