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Adeon Hawkwood,
Posted on: 2011-07-15 10:18 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
How does an upgrade work if you're buying GR on Steam but you've got a pre-existing non-Steam account? Does Steam give you a serial number to apply?
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Yes. Once you purchase it instead of installing it go into your game library and select the game. You should then have an option that says "CD Key" over on the right hand side of the interface. Clicking that will give you a serial code that you can use to upgrade your account on the NC Soft Website.|
Originally Posted by SlickRiptide
How does an upgrade work if you're buying GR on Steam but you've got a pre-existing non-Steam account? Does Steam give you a serial number to apply?
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Originally Posted by Zombie Man
It's also a good way to add a second account to use as a Freemium account to complement your VIP account, since this edition is a complete game purchase (CoH + CoV + Preatoria).
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It took a little more work than Adeon described but I did it. I couldnt just create my Steam account buy the game then get the CD Key from the site. I had to download the Steam Client and get it there. Still, my old Trial is now shiny and upgraded, and will be Premium once Freedom hits. Good deal.
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Well, this is rather unsettling news. I purchased it for a friend through Steam not realizing that you have to install the Steam Client in order to be able to get the codes even if you aren't playing it through Steam.|
Originally Posted by Lemur Lad
It took a little more work than Adeon described but I did it. I couldnt just create my Steam account buy the game then get the CD Key from the site. I had to download the Steam Client and get it there. Still, my old Trial is now shiny and upgraded, and will be Premium once Freedom hits. Good deal.
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Since he and I both refuse to install Steam on our computers, I guess I'll have to contact them for a refund.
Such a shame that they force you to install their crapware just to claim a game code or CD Key.
If the game spit out 20 dollar bills people would complain that they weren't sequentially numbered. If they were sequentially numbered people would complain that they weren't random enough.
Black Pebble is my new hero.
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Sorry, I kinda went with the assumption that anyone buying it on steam would have steam installed, I wasn't aware you could buy stuff without having it installed |
Originally Posted by Lemur Lad
It took a little more work than Adeon described but I did it. I couldnt just create my Steam account buy the game then get the CD Key from the site. I had to download the Steam Client and get it there. Still, my old Trial is now shiny and upgraded, and will be Premium once Freedom hits. Good deal.
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There are quite a few people I know that refuse to install the crapware Steam Client on their computers. Oddly, all are computer technicians that have had to remove some really nasty malware from multiple computers.|
Originally Posted by Adeon Hawkwood
Sorry, I kinda went with the assumption that anyone buying it on steam would have steam installed
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EDIT: It seems rather ridiculous to require the installation of the Steam Client just to be able to claim a game code to apply to an existing game account that isn't accessed through Steam.
If the game spit out 20 dollar bills people would complain that they weren't sequentially numbered. If they were sequentially numbered people would complain that they weren't random enough.
Black Pebble is my new hero.
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They're not very good technicians then, if malware springs from a void of nothing around them.
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Originally Posted by Texas Justice
Oddly, all are computer technicians that have had to remove some really nasty malware from multiple computers.
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Perhaps I'll ask people that bring us their infected machines to clean how they are connecting to a void of nothing. Since that is apparently where you think malware springs from.
The techs I speak of wouldn't know since they keep their machines clean.
If the game spit out 20 dollar bills people would complain that they weren't sequentially numbered. If they were sequentially numbered people would complain that they weren't random enough.
Black Pebble is my new hero.
Obviously they don't as they appear to be the only people anywhere, ever, that have malware spontaneously spring on to their systems due to Steam alone.
ive had the steam client on my comp for over 1.5 years now and never had a problem, but then again im also tech savvy enough to know how to avoid malicious software lol
(the same cannot be said for my sister who has gotten 3 laptops with problems or infected with something)
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Please show me anywhere in my posts where I said that the malware they had removed from people's computers came from Steam.
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Originally Posted by g_masque
Obviously they don't as they appear to be the only people anywhere, ever, that have malware spontaneously spring on to their systems due to Steam alone.
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If the game spit out 20 dollar bills people would complain that they weren't sequentially numbered. If they were sequentially numbered people would complain that they weren't random enough.
Black Pebble is my new hero.
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Originally Posted by Texas Justice
There are quite a few people I know that refuse to install the crapware Steam Client on their computers. Oddly, all are computer technicians that have had to remove some really nasty malware from multiple computers.
EDIT: It seems rather ridiculous to require the installation of the Steam Client just to be able to claim a game code to apply to an existing game account that isn't accessed through Steam. |
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Originally Posted by Texas Justice
Please show me anywhere in my posts where I said that the malware they had removed from people's computers came from Steam.
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No, you instead used a logical fallacy to associate Steam with technicians having to remove really nasty malware. Your remark about the several people you know who refuse to install Steam being computer technicians who through the course of their job, had to remove malware from computer is irrelevant.|
Originally Posted by Texas Justice
Please show me anywhere in my posts where I said that the malware they had removed from people's computers came from Steam.
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Additionally, it's irrelevant that the people you know who refuse to install Steam being computer technicians.
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People need to learn reading comprehension skills. Two separate sentences, two separate thought processes.
People are trying to read things into my posts, again, that are not what I'm stating.
The only thing that should ever be read into my posts that isn't explicitly stated is sarcasm.
If the game spit out 20 dollar bills people would complain that they weren't sequentially numbered. If they were sequentially numbered people would complain that they weren't random enough.
Black Pebble is my new hero.
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Your second statement depends on the first statement to exist. Or else you are referencing an undefined 'they'. So, let's go ahead and combine your second statement, that's supposed to be taken alone with appropriate nouns make explicit.|
Originally Posted by Texas Justice
People need to learn reading comprehension skills. Two separate sentences, two separate thought processes.
People are trying to read things into my posts, again, that are not what I'm stating. The only thing that should ever be read into my posts that isn't explicitly stated is sarcasm. |
Oddly, I know quite a few computer technicians that have to remove really nasty malware from multiple computers who refuse to install the crapware Steam Client on their computers.
That is the statement being drawn into question. If that is not what you meant, it is not the reading comprehension of the second party that should be questioned it is the ability of yourself to communication that needs to be questioned.
That said, I don't think it's a case of you just wanting to brag about having computer technician friends who remove really nasty malware from multiple computers. I think it is more a case of utilizing a logical fallacy.
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Originally Posted by Texas Justice
There are quite a few people I know that refuse to install the crapware Steam Client on their computers. Oddly, all are computer technicians that have had to remove some really nasty malware from multiple computers.
EDIT: It seems rather ridiculous to require the installation of the Steam Client just to be able to claim a game code to apply to an existing game account that isn't accessed through Steam. |
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Originally Posted by reiella
Your second statement depends on the first statement to exist. Or else you are referencing an undefined 'they'. So, let's go ahead and combine your second statement, that's supposed to be taken alone with appropriate nouns make explicit.
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Originally Posted by reiella
Oddly, I know quite a few computer technicians that have to remove really nasty malware from multiple computers who refuse to install the crapware Steam Client on their computers.
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Originally Posted by reiella
That is the statement being drawn into question. If that is not what you meant, it is not the reading comprehension of the second party that should be questioned it is the ability of yourself to communication that needs to be questioned. |
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Originally Posted by reiella
That said, I don't think it's a case of you just wanting to brag about having computer technician friends who remove really nasty malware from multiple computers. I think it is more a case of utilizing a logical fallacy.
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You think it is a case of utilizing a logical fallacy because you are misinterpreting what was said and are trying to make it into something it isn't.
You can keep trying to put words and meanings into my posts that aren't there. I don't have to stand by and let your fallacious interpretations of what I've said stand unchallenged.
If the game spit out 20 dollar bills people would complain that they weren't sequentially numbered. If they were sequentially numbered people would complain that they weren't random enough.
Black Pebble is my new hero.
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Two separate observations both in the same message, one of which either has absolutely no relevance or is posing a logical fallacy.|
Originally Posted by Texas Justice
Now see, there we get to it. Nothing in my sentence was bragging about having computer tech friends that remove malware. It was two separate observations about a group of friends.
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Just to shift the implication around, let's change Steam with say City of Heroes.
There are quite a few people I know that refuse to install City of heroes on their computers. Oddly, all are computer technicians that have had to remove some really nasty malware from multiple computers.
The second remark holds no real relevance, hence why it's a logical fallacy to be included in a discussion about City of Heroes.
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You can twist my words all you want and try to say I'm saying something that I'm not.
That doesn't change the fact that I've not said what you are saying I've said.
You may have incorrectly inferred that I implied something, but that doesn't mean that I've said that thing. It means your inference was wrong.
The fallacy is yours, not mine.
If the game spit out 20 dollar bills people would complain that they weren't sequentially numbered. If they were sequentially numbered people would complain that they weren't random enough.
Black Pebble is my new hero.
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To be fair, the twist was removing some more of the loaded language in your post, and simply changing the program in question to City of Heroes instead of Steam.|
Originally Posted by Texas Justice
You can twist my words all you want and try to say I'm saying something that I'm not.
That doesn't change the fact that I've not said what you are saying I've said. You may have incorrectly inferred that I implied something, but that doesn't mean that I've said that thing. It means your inference was wrong. The fallacy is yours, not mine. |
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Originally Posted by Texas Justice
There are quite a few people I know that refuse to install the crapware Steam Client on their computers. Oddly, all are computer technicians that have had to remove some really nasty malware from multiple computers.
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Let's Dance!
It's two observations about some people I know. Nothing more. You are trying to make it say something that was not the intent of the post.
I could bring up the price those technicians paid for flash drives and it wouldn't make it fallacious, even though it would be an observation that is irrelevant to both of the other observations. It would merely be 3 separate observations about the same group of people.
I've always stated that they were separate observations. You are the one trying to tie them into being connected in some manner other than that it is observations about the same people.
Another incorrect inference by you.
If the game spit out 20 dollar bills people would complain that they weren't sequentially numbered. If they were sequentially numbered people would complain that they weren't random enough.
Black Pebble is my new hero.
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Then why mention they remove really nasty malware?
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Originally Posted by Texas Justice
It's two observations about some people I know. Nothing more. You are trying to make it say something that was not the intent of the post.
I could bring up the price those technicians paid for flash drives and it wouldn't make it fallacious, even though it would be an observation that is irrelevant to both of the other observations. It would merely be 3 separate observations about the same group of people. |
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I'm not sure if her pedantry or back-pedaling is funnier.
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I made an observation about friends of mine. Another thought about those same people occurred to me so I added it to the post.|
Originally Posted by reiella
Then why mention they remove really nasty malware?
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Sometimes one thought brings up another thought. That doesn't mean that they can't be stated in the same post. It just mean that two separate thoughts were stated.
It also doesn't mean that the second observation is linked by anything more than the fact that it is discussing the same group of people.
If the game spit out 20 dollar bills people would complain that they weren't sequentially numbered. If they were sequentially numbered people would complain that they weren't random enough.
Black Pebble is my new hero.
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It isn't clear if you think reiella is female or if you think I'm female. If you are trying to claim I'm female, then you've made another incorrect conclusion.|
Originally Posted by g_masque
I'm not sure if her pedantry or back-pedaling is funnier.
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If you are refering to me, I've not done any back-pedalling. I've stuck to exactly what I said and what I meant. People incorrectly assuming I'm saying something I didn't say isn't me back-pedalling. It's them making an incorrect assumption.
If the game spit out 20 dollar bills people would complain that they weren't sequentially numbered. If they were sequentially numbered people would complain that they weren't random enough.
Black Pebble is my new hero.
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