Couple Questions...please calm my worries


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So just came back after a long time and with all the chances things are so different. I have a 50 fire/fire tanker and my wife wanted to start a SS/Fire brute due to the farming stories. So I exempted down to play with her and she is currently 13. I'm only in SO's because I haven't made an IO set yet since coming back, but in DO's shes taking and holding aggro from me. I'm assuming that its due to her fiery aura doing more damage then mine but I just didn't think that she would take all aggro except the mob Im targeting.

Is this how it is at end game TF's and stuff? So brutes hold the best aggro? I also seen in IO sets that brutes basically get the same defense as tankers. I love to tank and thats why its the only class I've taken over 20 but with tanking I enjoy holding aggro! What is the endgame like now? Are brutes and tankers equal?

Also quick other question. Wife has a 50 controller fire/fire. Which would be better to farm with my wife tanker..her 50 controller or her upcoming SS/fire brute?

Thanks all


 

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No brutes do not hold better aggro then tanks, tanks has an inherited power called gauntlet, that is basically a way to get the aggro with your attacks as well as your taunt aura as far as farming sorry I do not farm much.


 

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I understand about gauntlet but like I was saying..we were the same level using the same aura but she was gaining agrro over me. I jumped into the mobs first and everything. It happen for 3 missions in a row.


 

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What do u have slotted in your blazing aura?


 

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I'll have to look at the numbers, if Brute Blazing Aura has the same taunt mag as Tanker Blazing Aura, it may be that either her aura did more damage or you were just catching moments after hers pulsed (one of the aggro list components is duration remaining of Taunt Effect X).

Edit: SS/Fire for the farming question. 1-50 in maybe 2-3 days solo (that's 2-3 days in short sessions, not hermetic grinding), can farm +4x8 immediately by munching insps.


 

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There are 2 possible issues here.
1. Are you both taunting? And if your are are either slotted for acc or taunt
2. The accuracy of your taunt aura. Your blazing aura might be missing more frequently with you being exempted. Remeber you lose any slots you have put on blazing aura post lvl 18 and up.


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Originally Posted by untoldhero View Post
There are 2 possible issues here.
1. Are you both taunting? And if your are are either slotted for acc or taunt
2. The accuracy of your taunt aura. Your blazing aura might be missing more frequently with you being exempted. Remeber you lose any slots you have put on blazing aura post lvl 18 and up.

Although I agree with the gist of what you are saying I do not think the slotting during examplar works like that.

http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Exempl...n_Enhancements

Instead it degrades all the enhancements by an amount based on the level shift. So for the Aura, if 6 slotted would still be 6 slotted but all the values would be reduced.

The end result is still likely how you mentioned though - the accuracy is probably poor.

Also the brute fury affects the aura I believe making the brute Fire taunt aura more damaging most of the time.


 

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My intention isnt to argue with you about this, but im pretty sure set bonus's aren't reduced they are cancelled out while being exempt due to the fact you loose the slots, just like you lose powers. I know the OP is using SO's but I assumed that since set bonuses get cancelled wouldnt the SO buff? Im probably wrong but thats what happens to me.


I dont really know what to say
Electric Armour and the Soft cap
Electric Armour and the 1st 20 levels
Thundra Knight
click here for You want the best TANK!? I'll let you decicde!

 

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My intention isnt to argue with you about this, but im pretty sure set bonus's aren't reduced they are cancelled out while being exempt due to the fact you loose the slots, just like you lose powers. I know the OP is using SO's but I assumed that since set bonuses get cancelled wouldnt the SO buff? Im probably wrong but thats what happens to me.
No, when you exemp you keep the slots, but set bonuses go away.

If you have something 6 slotted at 50, it is still 6 slotted if you exemp to level 12, because the game has no way of knowing what level you put those slots in at. The effectiveness of any enhancements in it gets downgraded based on what class of enhancement you can use at that level (so level 12 would be equivalent to DOs, level 22 should see no noticeable difference), but it still has 6 slots worth.

I'm not going to put money on it, but I'm fairly sure that's how it works.


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So just came back after a long time and with all the chances things are so different. I have a 50 fire/fire tanker and my wife wanted to start a SS/Fire brute due to the farming stories. So I exempted down to play with her and she is currently 13. I'm only in SO's because I haven't made an IO set yet since coming back, but in DO's shes taking and holding aggro from me. I'm assuming that its due to her fiery aura doing more damage then mine but I just didn't think that she would take all aggro except the mob Im targeting.

Is this how it is at end game TF's and stuff? So brutes hold the best aggro? I also seen in IO sets that brutes basically get the same defense as tankers. I love to tank and thats why its the only class I've taken over 20 but with tanking I enjoy holding aggro! What is the endgame like now? Are brutes and tankers equal?

Also quick other question. Wife has a 50 controller fire/fire. Which would be better to farm with my wife tanker..her 50 controller or her upcoming SS/fire brute?

Thanks all
The fire controller would farm better. Typically, and generally speaking, fire/kin controllers are the toons that have the easiest time farming. On Redside, they have tried fire/psi Dominators, but nothing really beats a good fire/kin. The days of fire tanks being used for farming are long gone.


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Originally Posted by Molten_Lava View Post
I also seen in IO sets that brutes basically get the same defense as tankers.
That's not quite true. Tankers will get better defense and resistance numbers. Brutes start lower, but with buffs (for resistance or defense) or investment (for defense) will be able to reach the same caps. So a Brute can reach the same soft-cap you can, but it'll cost him more of his slotting and more money to do so. For some sets, the effect is prohibitive; others can get there with less effort.

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No brutes do not hold better aggro then tanks, tanks has an inherited power called gauntlet
Inherited? Heh.


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The fire controller would farm better. Typically, and generally speaking, fire/kin controllers are the toons that have the easiest time farming. On Redside, they have tried fire/psi Dominators, but nothing really beats a good fire/kin. The days of fire tanks being used for farming are long gone.
OP said Fire/Fire ( which I assume means Fire/Thermal ) not Fire/Kin.. the brute would farm better than a Fire/Thermal IMO.


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