Starting my Elec/Psi: Is PermaDom a priority at all for Elec/?


Alef_infinity

 

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Just came back after a bunch of issues and decided to give Dominators a go since they are one of the ATs of which I don´t have a 50.

Dont know much at all about how a Dom works and when I took a break from CoH doms had some issues.

I´ve been reading over the boards getting some ideas as to what to expect and came across a couple of people mentioning the lesser or minimal effect of Dominance on the Elec/ set.

Is that true? Why is that? and if that is the case should I not lean towards getting permadom?

thanx.


 

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Permadom will give you permanent mez protection, frequent endurance refills (but also more rapid endurance usage), one-shot holds on bosses (you still get a rapidly recharging ST hold and a long recharge AoE Hold), one-shot confuse on a boss if you target them as the first target for Synaptic Overload, and those levels of recharge will cause all of your controls to be up far more often plus help you attack with your higher damage attacks more often.

So it's up to you whether you want to go for it. Elec might gain less benefit than other sets (no short recharge AoE mezzes that benefit from Domination), but that kind of recharge likely would still benefit it and your Assault set with or without Domination. Plus you're going for /Psi, and more recharge means more uptime for Drain Psyche.


 

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I concur with Alef. Domination is just that good. You want it all the time.

When Domination is up you can walk into just about any room in a regular mission and ... Dominate! When it's down you feel like a shadow of your former self.

Having it be perma avoids having to rebuild Domination. If you tend to solo a lot, you'll definitely want it perma because Domination is much slower to rebuild when you're alone. Playing on a big team fills your Domination bar faster.


 

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The benefits have been discussed already. To expand on acquiring permadom you only need 80-85% global recharge with 3 slotted hasten. I prefer to tell folks to shoot for 90% as it makes maintaining it much easier.

It also largely depends on what your endgame plans are for your build. It is possible to make Drain Psyche perma (I have done so on my mind/psi), which requires a lot more recharge. You can also shoot for some s/l defense to make yourself more survivable.

If you have the budget for it, you could also get perma DP and defense.

All that said, any dominator should first and foremost attain perma dom as the mez protection alone increases your survivability and the +mez to your powers increases your effectiveness.


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The Usual Suspects: Fimboolvetr (Icer Tank), Tsukiyomi (Mind/Psi/Ice Dom), Smiting Dragon (Dm/Sr Scrap), Widow Mortis (NW)
Up and Comers: Ameterasu (Km/Reg Scrap), Arrhymian (Elec/Nin Stalk), TDMKII (Bot/Traps MM)

 

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thanx for the good advice.

was convinced on several of those benefits. Your info defintely convinced me completely.

What I wasn´t to sure about was the Elec set in general and how domination affected it since, like I mentioned I really don´t know much about dominators and wasnt sure how to fit in those comments I bumped into about Elec not receiving much benefit from domination.

Does domination also affect those powers from your secondary that have mez effects?

Still trying to find my place in the AT.
My elec/psi is only 10 right now. still very low. Just checked out Jolting chain and at low level I definitely expected more of a freezing rain behavior, but it only knocked them down once thats it, then they attacked. I expected a more continued behavior. Kind of meh so far. hopefully that will improve.

Will try a few more combos.
Thinking mind/elec , mind/fire , ice/energy.

Does any combo in general do ok in pvp? or is there any I should not use.


 

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With elec/psi, you want to pick up the damage interface and /ice app for ultimate carnage. Once there, you can completely squash anything you want by overly excessive application of domination driven chain fences. Yes, dom works just fine on chain fences, and the extended duration on it means you can manipulate your position much easier than without the extended duration.


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Originally Posted by OneFrigidWitch View Post
With elec/psi, you want to pick up the damage interface and /ice app for ultimate carnage. Once there, you can completely squash anything you want by overly excessive application of domination driven chain fences. Yes, dom works just fine on chain fences, and the extended duration on it means you can manipulate your position much easier than without the extended duration.
will consider that.
was concidering mu, but i´ll give that ice some thought.

btw does jolting chain change in later levels? How long it lasts or something?
right now it hits once and thats it. not liking it as a control power.

Static field is nice though. Those other sleep powers I did not like, but this once is a nice way of making a sleep power more useful.


 

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Originally Posted by goesto View Post
thanx for the good advice.

was convinced on several of those benefits. Your info defintely convinced me completely.

What I wasn´t to sure about was the Elec set in general and how domination affected it since, like I mentioned I really don´t know much about dominators and wasnt sure how to fit in those comments I bumped into about Elec not receiving much benefit from domination.

Does domination also affect those powers from your secondary that have mez effects?

Still trying to find my place in the AT.
My elec/psi is only 10 right now. still very low. Just checked out Jolting chain and at low level I definitely expected more of a freezing rain behavior, but it only knocked them down once thats it, then they attacked. I expected a more continued behavior. Kind of meh so far. hopefully that will improve.

Will try a few more combos.
Thinking mind/elec , mind/fire , ice/energy.

Does any combo in general do ok in pvp? or is there any I should not use.
Mind/fire is amazing in both pve and pvp. Mind/elec is a lot of fun and great pve but not as strong pvp. Ice/energy I dont have much experience with but I do have an ice/fire that is incredible pve/pvp along with a mind/energy that is great again for both.


 

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It shouldn't really be that surprising that a power with an 8 second recharge is different from a 60 second recharge one, should it?

Personally, the trick I like with Jolting Chain is to use it just before firing off another AoE power. That way enemies are less likely to get a chance to retaliate before Static Field sleeps them again. Although this may be less useful in the long term for /Psi, if you can get perma-Drain Psyche.


 

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Originally Posted by goesto View Post
Does domination also affect those powers from your secondary that have mez effects?
Yes. PSW and Subdue from /Psi, for example, are 'buffed' by domination.


SG: Guadians of Paragon - VG: Paragon's Darkness
The Usual Suspects: Fimboolvetr (Icer Tank), Tsukiyomi (Mind/Psi/Ice Dom), Smiting Dragon (Dm/Sr Scrap), Widow Mortis (NW)
Up and Comers: Ameterasu (Km/Reg Scrap), Arrhymian (Elec/Nin Stalk), TDMKII (Bot/Traps MM)

 

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I've not played an elec/ dom to 50 yet, but I don't think there's any doubt that while leveling up domination is a great thing for 1 shot holding bosses early on and later 1 shot confusing entire spawns with synaptic overload.

Elec/ is one of the few control sets I truely trust to cover survivability without padding lots of defenses from IOs and epic sets. Domination with Synaptic Overload is one major reason.


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Originally Posted by Shred_Monkey View Post
I've not played an elec/ dom to 50 yet, but I don't think there's any doubt that while leveling up domination is a great thing for 1 shot holding bosses early on and later 1 shot confusing entire spawns with synaptic overload.

Elec/ is one of the few control sets I truely trust to cover survivability without padding lots of defenses from IOs and epic sets. Domination with Synaptic Overload is one major reason.

Domination only works with the initial blast of Synaptic Overload, it won't spawn down the chain. Mind you that's often good enough anyway.


 

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I would think 2 or three times before skipping sleet from the chill mastery. Knockdown from your jolting chains, knockdown from your gremlins, knockdown from sleet is a TON of mitigation.


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