How's this for a build?
By
Bloodspeaker,
Posted on: 2011-06-22 24:23 in ALL ACCESS Gameplay Technical Issues Bugs
Sounds like you need a new nosmoke.exe for that computer.
If the game spit out 20 dollar bills people would complain that they weren't sequentially numbered. If they were sequentially numbered people would complain that they weren't random enough.
Black Pebble is my new hero.
Ya well, it's a 7 year old Dell 3GHz P4 w/HT. Iirc, those 8400 cases used a non-standard size PSU, so replacing that is, if not tough, then a PITA.
Perhaps I should phrase that slightly differently.
Sounds like you need a new nosmoke.exe for that computer.
If the game spit out 20 dollar bills people would complain that they weren't sequentially numbered. If they were sequentially numbered people would complain that they weren't random enough.
Black Pebble is my new hero.
I knew what you were getting at.
However, the PSU gnomes decided to have a smoke break and well, the little buggers fell asleep.
I'm guessing there's no real problems with it, seeing as how there's been no negative response. I'd like to get the order in today so's I could possibly get the stuff before the weekend. I'm jonesin' for my real comp... 
Apparently, XP does not play well with multicore processors. Every time I try to have the other 5 cores running, it does not want to boot into Normal mode. Gives me an IRQL error + blue screen. Turn off the other 5 and it boots normally. If I try Safe mode, it'll boot just fine with the other 5 and display them in the little panel that pops up with Ctrl+Alt+Del.
I had forgotten just how much I hate reinstalling Windows as well... /headdesk
Did you reinstall XP from scratch or simply move over a drive with XP already installed?
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Tempus unum hominem manet
I tried at first to just move the drive over. Didn't work. (No point in not trying the easiest thing first. )
Did a format/reinstall and up until the point that I could manage to get some different mobo/processor drivers installed, it would BSOD me every time I tried having more than a single core active. Was finally able to get it working decently.
I had to laugh when I realized I had seven fans going in this box. Four from the case, one on the vid card, one on the PSU, and one on the CPU. I dunno what the optimal temp ranges are, but overclocked to 3.7ghz w/that 1000w PSU in there and it hovers around 100F. It was, 120F standing in RWZ tonight with graphics settings pretty high. Doesn't seem like it's going to overheat, but I kinda wish there weren't so many cables from that PSU, since they take up a lotta space.
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Originally Posted by Dark One
I had to laugh when I realized I had seven fans going in this box. Four from the case, one on the vid card, one on the PSU, and one on the CPU. I dunno what the optimal temp ranges are, but overclocked to 3.7ghz w/that 1000w PSU in there and it hovers around 100F. It was, 120F standing in RWZ tonight with graphics settings pretty high. Doesn't seem like it's going to overheat, but I kinda wish there weren't so many cables from that PSU, since they take up a lotta space.
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...huh, 10 fans in my case in my main Mid-Special system...Beat'cha!
There's one thing I always forget when doing an OC...it's to factor in what the temperature is now, and what it's going to be in the middle of summer (which it's starting to *actually* look like here in California).
Just sayin' 'cause I had recently been reminded of that fact when...kaboom!
Edit to add: Modular cabling...the best thing to happen to PSU's ever!
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I keep mine in the basement. Hovers around 70-75 even when it's 90+ outside. |
Originally Posted by Mid_Forever
*starts counting fingers...*
...huh, 10 fans in my case in my main Mid-Special system...Beat'cha! There's one thing I always forget when doing an OC...it's to factor in what the temperature is now, and what it's going to be in the middle of summer (which it's starting to *actually* look like here in California). Just sayin' 'cause I had recently been reminded of that fact when...kaboom! Edit to add: Modular cabling...the best thing to happen to PSU's ever! |
When I was stripping the old one for parts, I took a look at the DVD burner...
There was a scorch mark around the SATA power connection/on the drive itself and the connection point. It was using a molex->SATA connector and that had a bit of melted plastic on it. That's the first time I've ever seen that. It was neat, in a way, but scary as hell. If I hadn't been awake when it happened, I could very possibly had a fire going.
Well it is called a "burner".
Father Xmas - Level 50 Ice/Ice Tanker - Victory
$725 and $1350 parts lists --- My guide to computer components
Tempus unum hominem manet
Better off with an i3-2100 than any AMD processor right now, at least for gaming. No AMD processor at this moment is worth it for gaming.
I have benchmarks to prove my point. And for the same price as the 1100T, you could get an i5-2400.
But I think it's too late. I didn't see this thread until now. Think you jumped the gun a little bit too soon.
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Originally Posted by Lakevren_
Better off with an i3-2100 than any AMD processor right now, at least for gaming. No AMD processor at this moment is worth it for gaming.
I have benchmarks to prove my point. And for the same price as the 1100T, you could get an i5-2400. But I think it's too late. I didn't see this thread until now. Think you jumped the gun a little bit too soon. |
Most of the newer PC games, I can get on xbox. The ones that I can't, either require Steam (which I refuse to use) or have some asinine DRM scheme (that I also refuse to have on my comp).
Or if you mean 'City Of Heroes' for gaming, then I think it's going to do alright. I just want to be able to play my older games, Fallout 3, Co*, etc., at a good to very good clip. I haven't been on an Incarnate Trial yet, but so far, it's running pretty smooth at fairly high Ultra mode settings in CoH. If I can make this processor last as long as my old one, I'll be ecstatic. I don't need to run Crysis at 80FPS.
For $600, I'm quite happy with this build.
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Originally Posted by Dark One
Depends on what you mean by 'gaming'.
Most of the newer PC games, I can get on xbox. The ones that I can't, either require Steam (which I refuse to use) or have some asinine DRM scheme (that I also refuse to have on my comp). Or if you mean 'City Of Heroes' for gaming, then I think it's going to do alright. I just want to be able to play my older games, Fallout 3, Co*, etc., at a good to very good clip. If I can make this processor last as long as my old one, I'll be ecstatic. For $600, I'm quite happy with this build. |
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Most of the newer PC games, I can get on xbox.
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The ones that I can't, either require Steam (which I refuse to use)
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or have some asinine DRM scheme (that I also refuse to have on my comp).
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If you were gonna go for an AMD Processor, you might have been better off with a 955BE. Those extra two cores on the 1100T might not do much.
The other predicament is the upgrade path, provided if you even consider it. The current AMD line-up is at a complete dead-end, unfortunately.
But no matter. It's better, by far, than that Pentium 4.
Oh yeah, the Corsair PSU, I believe, is better. Don't judge by wattage, at all.
In fact, this might have been good enough: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-020-_-Product
Really depends also on the video card power requirements.
But this might have been all in hindsight, considering it's been more than a week.
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I have my reasons. Mostly due to the fact that by using/buying any Steam game, you are giving up any and all First Sale rights. It's not strictly limited to Steam, but outside of an MMO and DLC for xbox games, any game that requires that of me is not purchased or played by me.| Oh boy. This excuse has gone wafer thin over the years, imo. |
I'm not against digital download services, after all, I buy stuff from GOG. But I don't buy any that require me to tie them to an account that they have the capability of closing out at any point with little to no recourse on my end or games that are priced anywhere near their boxed counterparts.
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| Shame. Unless, of course, it's a bad PC port, then I can understand that. |
For me, PC gaming is all but dead. I can't really think of anything coming out that I feel an overwhelming need to get. I might look into Skryim at some point, provided it isn't a Steam-based game, but eh.
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Oh yeah, the Corsair PSU, I believe, is better. Don't judge by wattage, at all. In fact, this might have been good enough: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-020-_-Product Really depends also on the video card power requirements. But this might have been all in hindsight, considering it's been more than a week. |
The good thing about this build is that if I ever need to, I can always change it out. I could easily see keeping this case for as long as the fans hold out and the ATX form factor for mobos is kept. I'm not one that is constantly on the upgrade treadmill. I will use a comp for as long as it's feasibly possible and still useful. I mean, heck, I still have a Pentium Pro 200 box and a Tandy 1000 that still work.
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Originally Posted by Lakevren_
Better off with an i3-2100 than any AMD processor right now, at least for gaming. No AMD processor at this moment is worth it for gaming.
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Apples to apples, the 1100t wins over the i3-2100 *today, upgrade path or no.
Seen that 1100tBlack get upwards of 4.4GHz on air.
*not any day, mind you, but today.
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Doing nothing more than flipping a toggle on the mobo and the CPU goes up to 3.7. No messing with voltages or any of that stuff.
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Originally Posted by Mid_Forever
...but the 1100T has an unlocked multi.
Apples to apples, the 1100t wins over the i3-2100 *today, upgrade path or no. Seen that 1100tBlack get upwards of 4.4GHz on air. *not any day, mind you, but today. |
Just gave it the first real test tonight and exceeded my expectations. Medium-highish graphics settings (on a Radeon HD 5750) and I was getting 15-20FPS on a Rikti mothership raid w/only the typical server side lag (and not just on the decks of the ship, maintaining a 15-20 with spikes to 25ish in the center bowl with everyone there). Hopping back from the raid was hitting 60FPS. I checked the ASUS AI program that came with the driver disc and found that with all six cores unlocked and running, that there was about 50% CPU capacity being used on each one (at stock 3.3GHz speed). Granted, I had a lot of Firefox windows opened, but that only amounted to 10%ish CPU on all six prior to starting CoH.
As far as "gaming" goes, it's a success for CoH, in my estimation.
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At least you're not dealing with a double-XP weekend. |
Originally Posted by Dark One
Apparently, XP does not play well with multicore processors. Every time I try to have the other 5 cores running, it does not want to boot into Normal mode. Gives me an IRQL error + blue screen. Turn off the other 5 and it boots normally. If I try Safe mode, it'll boot just fine with the other 5 and display them in the little panel that pops up with Ctrl+Alt+Del.
I had forgotten just how much I hate reinstalling Windows as well... /headdesk |
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Well, last night my PSU in my main comp died on me. Smoke coming out of it. First time I've ever seen that happen. If I hadn't been awake at the time, there's the chance I coulda had a fire on my hands.
Perfect excuse to build a new comp. Or at least mostly new, as I'm keeping a few components from my old one (vid card, OS, HDD, and optical drive).
Here's what I'm thinking:
RAIDMAX SMILODON Extreme Black ATX-612WEB 1.0mm SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Foldout MB Computer Case
AMD HDE00ZFBGRBOX Phenom II 1100T Black Edition Six Core Processor
ASUS M4A89GTD PRO/USB3 Motherboard
CORSAIR XMS 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800
CORSAIR Gaming Series GS700 700W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC High Performance Power Supply
Cost (minus S/H): $595
Edit - I might swap out the power supply for:
Azza PSAZ-1000A14 Titan ATX Power Supply - 1000W, 80 Plus Bronze, 140mm LED Fan, SLI & CrossFire Ready Active PFC (It's about $40 off that list price with a coupon.) Total would go down to ~$580.