Lord Recluse: The Rodney Dangerfield of Archvillains
By
Arilou,
Posted on: 2011-06-21 09:04 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
In point of fact, Recluse is the *WILDCARD* in all of this. He's the one who is actively trying to REJECT the Well of the Furies, so as to reclaim his own destiny. As strange as it sounds, Recluse is even MORE devoted to Freedom than Statesman is (albeit the "freedom" of villainy, rather than heroism). Just listen to the speechifying in Grandville at immigration on the monitors.
The other thing is that Lord Recluse killed The Weaver to become leader of Arachnos, and he also killed Jean Marchand to become the ruler of the Rogue Isles.
Emperor Cole killed Stephan Richter at the Well of the Furies in Praetoria ... and for this reason, Lord Recluse absolutely will NOT trust Emperor Cole any further than he can throw the entire cosmos (ie. not at all)! There will be NO cooperation, of any kind, between Lord Recluse and Emperor Cole.
But Jean Marchand still lives in Praetoria, as the trusted ally of Emperor Cole. How will Marchand "respond" to a Primal Stefan Richter who killed the Primal Marchand? Will he have the same reaction as Lord Recluse has towards Emperor Cole? Or will Praetorian Marchand see some other opportunity for advancement through Lord Recluse ... and work to build a relationship with Lord Recluse behind Emperor Cole's back, to the benefit of *both* Lord Recluse and Jean Marchand?
If anything, I'd imagine that Lord Recluse's purposes are furthered best by NOT being at the forefront of the advertising you cite above. It allows him to weave his webs out of sight of prying eyes, affording him the opportunity to gather his forces and invest his power where it'll make the most difference at the crucial moment.
Or it could all just be yet another Nemesis Plot, and the Statesman we see in all those posters is really just an Incarnate Automaton sent from the future into the past and living up through into the present. Yeah ... that's gotta be it ... 
It's the end. But the moment has been prepared for ...
Makes it seem like Tyrant and the loyalists are the main villains now 
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Hell, look at Statesman's degeneration.
He goes from squaring off dramatically against his sworn archvillain, to getting put behind his evil, goatee self who's been getting hyped more than he ever has, and now he doesn't even fight and AV, that's an A or BCU, they're Lieutenants at best!
So now Statesman has to put all his dramatic power behind fighting an enemy even PCs can slaughter wholesale in the Maria Jenkins arcs.
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Much like the branding of the game, it's now all a matter of perception. The cynic in me says that the PR department has more power than Statesman and Recluse combined.|
Originally Posted by Golden Girl
Makes it seem like Tyrant and the loyalists are the main villains now
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Hmmm, maybe PR is the Well's new and most effective champion??
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Originally Posted by EvilGeko
Poor Lord Recluse. We went from this:
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I apologise to those who've read my previous rantings on this subject. And, yes, I'm aware that I have the choice to quit the game if I don't like what Paragon Studios are doing with thier IP, but I won't, as that would be foolish. I would only do this if they cut resources to villain-side (e.g. a new TF without a new SF (not counting co-op content, which obviously is accessible to all characters)).
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Not at all. Remember, Cole has some of those A/BCU's being tougher than others. You know, like the ones you see in Trials, that kick even Incarnates butts.
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Originally Posted by AzureSkyCiel
Hell, look at Statesman's degeneration.
He goes from squaring off dramatically against his sworn archvillain, to getting put behind his evil, goatee self who's been getting hyped more than he ever has, and now he doesn't even fight and AV, that's an A or BCU, they're Lieutenants at best! So now Statesman has to put all his dramatic power behind fighting an enemy even PCs can slaughter wholesale in the Maria Jenkins arcs. |
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Recluse has always been an Anti Sue. Now he's just being put in his proper place: the nearly-inconsequential generalissimo of a pirate's den that only continues to exist because it's not really dangerous enough to be worth the effort of crushing.
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Originally Posted by Venture
Recluse has always been an Anti Sue. Now he's just being put in his proper place: the nearly-inconsequential generalissimo of a pirate's den that only continues to exist because it's not really dangerous enough to be worth the effort of crushing.
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I kind of got the idea that he was sitting to the side letting the Coles wear themselves out fighting each other.
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Is it time for the dance of joy yet?
Is still wonder what that "Right Hand of Recluse" badge that BS was sporting some time ago was about... New TF? Or just cool dev. bling?
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Originally Posted by Arilou
Is still wonder what that "Right Hand of Recluse" badge that BS was sporting some time ago was about... New TF? Or just cool dev. bling?
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You be his right hand, i'll be the boot up his a**
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Poor Lord Recluse. We went from this:
To this:
To this:
Replaced by a emo goatee Statesman and a robot.
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