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Amy_Amp

By Amy_Amp,
Posted on: 2011-06-19 20:44 in Brutes

 

Posted

Is possible?

My friend said to make a shield with 40% resistance is already good.

It is better to build a resistance-based damage and incarnates and use for the rest.

It is possible to do a build without using these features purple?

I will be waiting for suggestions and / or builds, thanks in advance.

Hugs

 

Posted

Do you mean actual resistance, or defense? Shield is a def based power set and adding resist is rather difficult with IOs. The goal for Shield defensively is to hit 45% for the def soft cap.

 

Posted

In addition, by slotting Deflection for resistance and taking Tough from the Fighting pool you can get around 35% S/L resistance, which would also be useful to have.

But other than that, as Amy said Shield Defense is primarily a positional defense set, so you want to aim for 45% defense to all positions. And yes, you can pretty easily achieve both goals without purples.

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Posted

You can actually get up to 45% SM/L resistance on a shield brute (and be softcapped).

It requires:

  • ED Capped/Near ED Capped Res slotting in Deflection
  • Cardiac Core Paragon
  • 3% Resistance Shield Wall Unique
That will get you 40-41% SM/L resistance.

Then you can take Barrier Core Epiphany for a permanent 5% resistance to all, which will get you to 45~46%

 

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Amy_Amp View Post
Do you mean actual resistance, or defense? Shield is a def based power set and adding resist is rather difficult with IOs. The goal for Shield defensively is to hit 45% for the def soft cap.
True, but it also has resistance built into it.

Slot for defense first. resistance second. I also like to 6 slot Deflection with three defense IOs (Luck of the Gambler) and three resistances. (Aegis)

 

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Amy_Amp View Post
Do you mean actual resistance, or defense? Shield is a def based power set and adding resist is rather difficult with IOs. The goal for Shield defensively is to hit 45% for the def soft cap.
That's right, my friend said it is not hard to reach 40% of res! But since he stopped playing, I did not know how.

 

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Finduilas View Post
In addition, by slotting Deflection for resistance and taking Tough from the Fighting pool you can get around 35% S/L resistance, which would also be useful to have.

But other than that, as Amy said Shield Defense is primarily a positional defense set, so you want to aim for 45% defense to all positions. And yes, you can pretty easily achieve both goals without purples.
My question is: how? Do you have build?

 

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Deus_Otiosus View Post
You can actually get up to 45% SM/L resistance on a shield brute (and be softcapped).

It requires:

  • ED Capped/Near ED Capped Res slotting in Deflection
  • Cardiac Core Paragon
  • 3% Resistance Shield Wall Unique
That will get you 40-41% SM/L resistance.

Then you can take Barrier Core Epiphany for a permanent 5% resistance to all, which will get you to 45~46%

I want it only to build, no need to use the incarnate! Making the build based on damage and res, I use the incarnates for endurance and recharge!

 

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Quote:
Originally Posted by DoctorWhat View Post
True, but it also has resistance built into it.

Slot for defense first. resistance second. I also like to 6 slot Deflection with three defense IOs (Luck of the Gambler) and three resistances. (Aegis)
Do you have any build?



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Quote:
Originally Posted by DoctorWhat View Post
True, but it also has resistance built into it.
I should of asked 40% resistance of what. Yes, Shield has resistance, but you are really looking only at getting S/L high up and not say 40% to everything.

 

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I was thinking one thing.

We build based on the res and damage. Incarnate to solve the problem of endurance and improve rech ...

Where comes the ACC? Because brute has a small problem with that is not it?

 

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dinamo View Post
Do you have any build?



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I have one for a TANK. Gimmie time, I can make one for a brute

 

Posted

40% resistance to all is not worth the effort, even if its possible.


Your character does not have capped defense. Depending on your AT the cap is between 175% - 225%. Your defense is not teal in the combat window, it can go higher. STOP SAYING IT IS CAPPED! The correct term is Soft Cap.
I enjoy playing in Mids. I specialize in Melee Characters, other AT's usually bore me.

 

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Quote:
Originally Posted by _Pine_ View Post
40% resistance to all is not worth the effort, even if its possible.
40% to all, yes. To just S/L, doable.

Made a build. It needs the PvP +3% Res IO to get 41.5%, but even without it it's at 38.5 which is damn near close. Plus softcap.

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Level 50 Science Brute
Primary Power Set: Super Strength
Secondary Power Set: Shield Defense
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Punch -- T'Death-Dam%(A), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), T'Death-Acc/Dmg(31), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx(34), T'Death-Dmg/Rchg(39), T'Death-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(40)
Level 1: Deflection -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(3), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(11), Aegis-ResDam(13), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(13), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg(15)
Level 2: Battle Agility -- RedFtn-EndRdx(A), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(3), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(15), RedFtn-Def(17), RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg(46), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(48)
Level 4: Haymaker -- Mako-Dam%(A), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), Mako-Acc/Dmg(17), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx(39), Mako-Dmg/Rchg(39), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(40)
Level 6: True Grit -- Numna-Heal/Rchg(A), Numna-Heal(9), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(45), Aegis-ResDam(45), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(45), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg(48)
Level 8: Knockout Blow -- C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(9), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(40), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(42), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(42), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42)
Level 10: Active Defense -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(11), EndRdx-I(34)
Level 12: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(43)
Level 14: Super Jump -- Winter-ResSlow(A)
Level 16: Against All Odds -- EndRdx-I(A), EndRdx-I(48)
Level 18: Boxing -- C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(19), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(19), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(21), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(21)
Level 20: Phalanx Fighting -- SW-ResDam/Re TP(A)
Level 22: Rage -- GSFC-Build%(A), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(23), GSFC-ToHit(23), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(36), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(36), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(36)
Level 24: Tough -- Aegis-ResDam(A), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(25), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(25), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg(29)
Level 26: Weave -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(27), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(27), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(29)
Level 28: Grant Cover -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(31), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(31)
Level 30: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(46)
Level 32: Foot Stomp -- Erad-%Dam(A), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(33), Erad-Dmg(33), Erad-Dmg/Rchg(33), Erad-Acc/Rchg(34), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(46)
Level 35: Shield Charge -- Oblit-%Dam(A), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37), Oblit-Dmg(37), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(37), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(43), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43)
Level 38: One with the Shield -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A)
Level 41: Superior Conditioning -- EndMod-I(A)
Level 44: Physical Perfection -- EndMod-I(A)
Level 47: Taunt -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 49: Maneuvers -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(50), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(50), LkGmblr-EndRdx/Rchg(50)
Level 50: Cardiac Core Paragon
Level 0: The Atlas Medallion
Level 0: Task Force Commander
Level 0: Portal Jockey
Level 0: Freedom Phalanx Reserve
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Fury
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Mrcl-Rcvry+(7)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod(7)
Level 4: Ninja Run



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Posted

It's worth keeping the manauvers? It does not consume a lot of endurance?

Tks for build! I'll try when I get home!

 

Posted

Maneuvers does not use enough endurance to warrant dropping it. It is worth the endurance for the defense it gives.


Your character does not have capped defense. Depending on your AT the cap is between 175% - 225%. Your defense is not teal in the combat window, it can go higher. STOP SAYING IT IS CAPPED! The correct term is Soft Cap.
I enjoy playing in Mids. I specialize in Melee Characters, other AT's usually bore me.

 

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Quote:
Originally Posted by _Pine_ View Post
Maneuvers does not use enough endurance to warrant dropping it. It is worth the endurance for the defense it gives.
Not to mention that, stacked with Grant Cover, a LOT of teammates will be QUITE happy fighting by you with a 15% boost it defense.

Do note that you CAN turn off Drop Cover to conserve endurance when you solo but it has a good chunk of your defense debuff resistance, so make sure you have it when you need it.

 

Posted

Try taking Darkest Night from the Soul Mastery Epic Pool. Toggle, -tohit/-21% damage debuff, 25' radius, 16 target max.

Hope this build helps. You will need the Cardiac Core alpha:

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Level 50 Magic Brute
Primary Power Set: Super Strength
Secondary Power Set: Shield Defense
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Leaping
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Punch

  • (A) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage
  • (43) Mako's Bite - Damage/Endurance
  • (43) Mako's Bite - Damage/Recharge
  • (43) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge
  • (46) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  • (48) Mako's Bite - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
Level 1: Deflection
  • (A) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance
  • (40) Aegis - Resistance/Recharge
  • (40) Aegis - Resistance
  • (42) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
  • (42) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
  • (42) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
Level 2: Battle Agility
  • (A) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance
  • (3) Red Fortune - Defense/Recharge
  • (3) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
  • (39) Red Fortune - Defense
  • (39) Red Fortune - Endurance
  • (40) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
Level 4: True Grit
  • (A) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance
  • (5) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Recharge
  • (5) Numina's Convalescence - Heal
  • (34) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery
  • (37) Gladiator's Armor - Resistance
  • (39) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All)
Level 6: Haymaker
  • (A) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage
  • (7) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance
  • (7) Crushing Impact - Damage/Recharge
  • (13) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (31) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
  • (31) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
Level 8: Knockout Blow
  • (A) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage
  • (9) Mako's Bite - Damage/Endurance
  • (9) Mako's Bite - Damage/Recharge
  • (11) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge
  • (11) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  • (13) Mako's Bite - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
Level 10: Active Defense
  • (A) HamiO:Enzyme Exposure
Level 12: Boxing
  • (A) Empty
Level 14: Tough
  • (A) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance
  • (15) Aegis - Resistance/Recharge
  • (15) Aegis - Resistance
Level 16: Taunt
  • (A) Mocking Beratement - Taunt
  • (17) Mocking Beratement - Taunt/Recharge
  • (17) Mocking Beratement - Taunt/Recharge/Range
  • (23) Mocking Beratement - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (23) Mocking Beratement - Taunt/Range
  • (31) Mocking Beratement - Recharge
Level 18: Rage
  • (A) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Recharge
  • (19) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Endurance/Recharge
  • (19) Adjusted Targeting - Endurance/Recharge
  • (21) Adjusted Targeting - Recharge
  • (21) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Endurance
Level 20: Against All Odds
  • (A) Endurance Reduction IO
Level 22: Phalanx Fighting
  • (A) Kismet - Accuracy +6%
  • (45) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +3% Res (All)
Level 24: Weave
  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
  • (25) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
  • (25) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
Level 26: Hasten
  • (A) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (27) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (27) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 28: Maneuvers
  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
  • (29) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
  • (29) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
Level 30: Assault
  • (A) Endurance Reduction IO
Level 32: Foot Stomp
  • (A) Obliteration - Damage
  • (33) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (33) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge
  • (33) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (34) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  • (34) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage
Level 35: Shield Charge
  • (A) Obliteration - Damage
  • (36) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (36) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge
  • (36) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (37) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  • (37) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage
Level 38: One with the Shield
  • (A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
Level 41: Gloom
  • (A) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure
Level 44: Darkest Night
  • (A) Endurance Reduction IO
Level 47: Combat Jumping
  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
Level 49: Super Speed
  • (A) Celerity - +Stealth
Level 0: Born In Battle
Level 0: High Pain Threshold
Level 0: Invader
Level 0: Marshal
Level 50: Cardiac Core Paragon
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Level 1: Brawl
  • (A) Empty
Level 1: Fury
Level 1: Sprint
  • (A) Run Speed IO
Level 2: Rest
  • (A) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift
  • (A) Run Speed IO
Level 2: Health
  • (A) Miracle - Heal/Endurance
  • (45) Miracle - Heal/Recharge
  • (46) Miracle - Heal
  • (46) Miracle - +Recovery
  • (48) Regenerative Tissue - +Regeneration
Level 2: Hurdle
  • (A) Jumping IO
Level 2: Stamina
  • (A) Performance Shifter - EndMod
  • (45) Performance Shifter - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (48) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Recharge
  • (50) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Accuracy/Recharge
  • (50) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Accuracy
  • (50) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End


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This last build consumes more than endurance recovers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A lot!

 

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dinamo View Post
I was thinking one thing.

We build based on the res and damage. Incarnate to solve the problem of endurance and improve rech ...

Where comes the ACC? Because brute has a small problem with that is not it?
Rage in Super Strength will give you the tohit you need.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dinamo
I want it only to build, no need to use the incarnate! Making the build based on damage and res, I use the incarnates for endurance and recharge!

Cardiac Core Paragon is, in my opinion, the best possible alpha for an SS/SD Brute.

It reduces your endurance consumption across the board AND also increases your resistance.


Endurance is your number once concern on this build, after you are softcapped.



Quote:
Originally Posted by DoctorWhat View Post
40% to all, yes. To just S/L, doable.

Made a build. It needs the PvP +3% Res IO to get 41.5%, but even without it it's at 38.5 which is damn near close. Plus softcap.

I used this build as a base and made some improvements, several things were overslotted or slotted with a bit less efficiency then they could have been. Tough only had 4 Aegis pieces which I didn't understand, you need the 5th piece here.


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If Dinamo is willing to get the 3% Glad Unique, I can increases his recharge.

The Armageddon set in Footstomp is completely optional and can be changed to 5 or 6 piece Obliteration (as Cardiac will reduce the End use)


Accolades and Incarnate must be turned on, the build uses Cardiac Core Paragon.

 

Posted

Thanks for the explanation!

I will not use purple because it is a lot of money, does not compensate in my opinion, even more now with the incarnates powers, the cost/benefit for me no is good!!

My char have a lot of accolades!

 

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Originally Posted by Dinamo View Post
Thanks for the explanation!

I will not use purple because it is a lot of money, does not compensate in my opinion, even more now with the incarnates powers, the cost/benefit for me no is good!!

My char have a lot of accolades!

No problem.

You have a few choices then, but since you are already softcapped I would just stick with Obliteration for the recharge.

1) 5 Slots allows you to take the Force Feedback proc.

2) 6 Slots will also give you enough melee defense to change Touch of Death in punch to Crushing Impact.


Option 1 provides a random boost to your overall recharge, which probably averages out to 15-20% over time if you are always fighting a lot of enemies but gives you very little when you are not.

Option 2 provides a straight 5% increase.

 

Posted

Tomorrow I'll make a compiled tips posted here and try to build a mount for the evaluation of you!

 

Posted

This build is not for tanker right?

Resistance between 30 and 40 is good then? So can I maximize some attacks, I made a build, I post at home for evaluation.