Non-farming Elec/Fire; Brute or Scrapper?
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Amy_Amp,
Posted on: 2011-06-02 22:44 in Archetypes and Powers General Discussion
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I am not really one to answer this as I am not a numbers person, but I do have both Scrappers and Brutes, and while I do have IO builds they are not ones filled with the "Hawt stuffs."|
Originally Posted by Obscure Blade
I'm considering making an Electric Melee/Fire character. I know that Brutes have better hit points and resist caps and more aura damage, while Scrappers get better damage from Lightning Rod. What are the pros/cons for an Elec/Fire that isn't made for farming, no fancy expensive IO builds; just a frankenslotted character meant for general play. If I go scrapper for the better out-of-the-box damage will the lower survivability be noticeable? If I go Brute will the lower damage be a big deal?
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So, talking as Jane on the street, casual player, since we are talking/Fire here, I would go Brute. I say this because/Fire scrappers are close to Blasters in survivability..and I suspect that is why /Fire has one of the best and most funnest self Rezzes in game.
But you have a point about about Lightning Rod being better on scrappers...hmmm.
You could always eat some red and yellow candy before firing it off. I find chewing on the reds helps a lot while my fury is subpar. And Lightning Rod, whether is does uber damage or not, is a lot of fun.
Elec/Fire does sound fun...quick and attractive looking attacks, AOEs....urggg, I might have to make one. If I do I will go Brute and take Ghost Widow as my Patron. Soul good.
Good luck.
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I understand that the problem is that the damage for Lightning Rod on a Brute is capped low because it's a pseudo-pet power; you can't boost it as high as a scrapper can.
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Originally Posted by McCharraigin
But you have a point about about Lightning Rod being better on scrappers...hmmm.
You could always eat some red and yellow candy before firing it off. I find chewing on the reds helps a lot while my fury is subpar. |
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It's also much easier for a brute to keep things in Burn due to their better ability to taunt mobs even without using Taunt.
Brute.
They are more survivable. Plus, their taunt aura will keep enemies sticking to you better. Heck, they even have taunt.. so take that too! (Confront =/= taunt.)
I myself have an Elec/Fire brute which is frankenslotted and I like him a lot. Most fun character I have played, and I don't notice his damage being weak.
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Originally Posted by Wavicle
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This is a tough one, elec/ is WAY better on a scrapper, yet /Fire is WAY better on a brute.
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@Caucasiafro
Basically it depends on if you care if things scatter when you use burn. It doesn't have the afraid effect any more, but things still scatter without some kind of taut. I ran a /fire scrapper up to 30 and decided I really didn't like having everything run away right after I drop burn. If you don't want scatter, then brute is better. If you don't really care, then scrapper might be better.
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Hmm....|
Originally Posted by Obscure Blade
I'm considering making an Electric Melee/Fire character. I know that Brutes have better hit points and resist caps and more aura damage, while Scrappers get better damage from Lightning Rod. What are the pros/cons for an Elec/Fire that isn't made for farming, no fancy expensive IO builds; just a frankenslotted character meant for general play. If I go scrapper for the better out-of-the-box damage will the lower survivability be noticeable? If I go Brute will the lower damage be a big deal?
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Here's a wacky suggestion: Make a tank!
You get the best of both worlds: Brute/scrapper damage, broot/tank toughness! And none of those pesky 'better on which AT' discussions.
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Meh. I don't like tanks at all. Low damage and they get their attacks late.
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Originally Posted by mauk2
Hmm....
Here's a wacky suggestion: Make a tank! |
Arc #40529 : The Furies of the Earth
Go Brute, grab Gloom to help on your single target damage 
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While the damage for most scrapper and brute builds (of the same type) are mostly comparable, I would not consider a tank a rival in terms of damage output. Also, with the somewhat recent buff to tanks HP, I would consider fiery aura to be substantially more durable on a tank and not comparable to brute /fa durability.|
Originally Posted by mauk2
Hmm....
Here's a wacky suggestion: Make a tank! You get the best of both worlds: Brute/scrapper damage, broot/tank toughness! And none of those pesky 'better on which AT' discussions. |
Personally, I would make it a brute. ELm/ is better for scrappers, but the only big difference I see is Thunderstrike. Perhaps I am overlooking something here, but the rest of the attacks should be comparable output seeing that TS is the only one that uses the pet damage mechanic. Fiery aura will do better on brutes for the reasons listed above. Better leveraging of burn due to auto gauntlet of brutes and higher hp for brutes.
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You mean Lightning Rod I think?
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Originally Posted by magikwand
ELm/ is better for scrappers, but the only big difference I see is Thunderstrike. Perhaps I am overlooking something here, but the rest of the attacks should be comparable output seeing that TS is the only one that uses the pet damage mechanic.
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Arc #40529 : The Furies of the Earth
I'm considering making an Electric Melee/Fire character. I know that Brutes have better hit points and resist caps and more aura damage, while Scrappers get better damage from Lightning Rod. What are the pros/cons for an Elec/Fire that isn't made for farming, no fancy expensive IO builds; just a frankenslotted character meant for general play. If I go scrapper for the better out-of-the-box damage will the lower survivability be noticeable? If I go Brute will the lower damage be a big deal?
Arc #40529 : The Furies of the Earth