KB protection question and a vengence one two
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Amy_Amp,
Posted on: 2011-06-02 15:31 in Archetypes and Powers General Discussion
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I believe most of the KB that blows through a single IO is around mag 10, so +11 protection should work fine.
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Originally Posted by Cheetatron
It's often said that +8 kb protection(2 IOs) offers no more benefit than +4, and that +12(3 ios) does protect you from a greater amount of KB powers but what I want to know is does that hold true for + 11 protection as well or is it +12 or bust?
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Which is really annoying for those trials. Some poor blaster gets blasted and no one cares ;(
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Originally Posted by Darkness3221
No veng only works for dead team mate
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Thx for the reply do you know off hand any powers that are of that magnitude?
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Originally Posted by StrykerX
I believe most of the KB that blows through a single IO is around mag 10, so +11 protection should work fine.
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Acro would be the answer, but it only provides -7/-9 KB protection. Even a mez toggle on a melee is -10. Offhand, the amount of times a melee character is going to be KBed with their protection on can be counted on one hand.
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Originally Posted by Cheetatron
Thx for the reply do you know off hand any powers that are of that magnitude?
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Anyone with a mez toggle gets mag 10 knockback protection and 10,000% resistance to knockback. This essentially means any knock applied gets reduced to 1/1000th of its value, then protection applied.|
Originally Posted by Amy_Amp
Acro would be the answer, but it only provides -7/-9 KB protection. Even a mez toggle on a melee is -10. Offhand, the amount of times a melee character is going to be KBed with their protection on can be counted on one hand.
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Acrobatics does not have this resistance.
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Heh. I skipped right past that info on CoD. I know Acro got changed, but it still does cover the vast majority of times one would get KBed.
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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison
Anyone with a mez toggle gets mag 10 knockback protection and 10,000% resistance to knockback. This essentially means any knock applied gets reduced to 1/1000th of its value, then protection applied.
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I actually went with 4 IOs for KB protection.... thats 16 points of it. And in certain situations (multiple fissures) I watch the majority of my teams bouncing around and I often find myself wondering why my troller isnt.
It may be overkill, but in some situations, I've enjoyed it immensely.
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the few things i know that will ignore kb regardless of how much you have is one attack from both BABs and sister p
BABs has a power called [back alley power punch] which is a special version of energy transfer which does unresistable mag 28 KB
sister psyche just has a version of levitate with unresistable knockup
off top of my head i do not really know of much which passes the mag 12 mark aside from AV very high mag stuff or AV unresistable kb as in the examples above
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If remember right in apex clocks do 10.5
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Originally Posted by Cheetatron
Thx for the reply do you know off hand any powers that are of that magnitude?
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Do not forget that you can put a knockback I/O in acrobatics, that will increase the value to just over 10.
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Good to know thx
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Originally Posted by ultrawatt
If remember right in apex clocks do 10.5
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Force Bolt and the AV level Nemesis Staff blasts can be over mag 12, and I think there are a couple of other attacks too. It's very rare though... three KB IOs or Acrobatics plus one IO will make you immune to almost all knockback and a single IO will stop 95% of it or more.
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Originally Posted by Necrotech_Master
off top of my head i do not really know of much which passes the mag 12 mark aside from AV very high mag stuff or AV unresistable kb as in the examples above
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Cascade, level 50 Blaster (NRG/NRG since before it was cool)
Mechmeister, level 50 Bots / Traps MM
FAR too many non-50 alts to name
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I always find it worthwhile to pile at least the Zephyr's -KB into a squishy. For a melee with no KB protection I'd slip in 3.
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Originally Posted by StrykerX
Force Bolt and the AV level Nemesis Staff blasts can be over mag 12, and I think there are a couple of other attacks too. It's very rare though... three KB IOs or Acrobatics plus one IO will make you immune to almost all knockback and a single IO will stop 95% of it or more.
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It's often said that +8 kb protection(2 IOs) offers no more benefit than +4, and that +12(3 ios) does protect you from a greater amount of KB powers but what I want to know is does that hold true for + 11 protection as well or is it +12 or bust?
Can vengeance be used on league mates not on your team?