Lady Grey and Hamidon


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Has anyone else had trouble with EoE's not necessarily protecting you from the weakened Hamidon's bolts?

I was on my tanker last night. While we were taking down the last 1 or 2 green mitos Hami got aggroed somehow. No problem, I had 2 EoE's so I took one, taunted him and moved off to give the others a break.

Each hit took me down 25% and eventually I died while the EoE was still active. I used an awaken, turned my mez protection back on, chewed a few blues and my last EoE and ran back in. By this point the party was hacking on Hami so I taunted and braced myself for another death... except it didn't hurt. The 2nd EoE seemed to work fine.

I'm still puzzled by what happened.

BTW - I had us do it oldstyle with the party taking out the rikti and pylons first, then the mitos then hami. I still get comments that we should save the pylons for last. I'm beginning to doubt myself on that... it really really doesn't matter... right?


 

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I've never used the EoEs myself so I can't comment on that, but I can tell you the order in which you destroy the pylons or mitos matter as much as the points do on Whose Line is it Anyway.


 

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Originally Posted by Golden_Avariel View Post
BTW - I had us do it oldstyle with the party taking out the rikti and pylons first, then the mitos then hami. I still get comments that we should save the pylons for last. I'm beginning to doubt myself on that... it really really doesn't matter... right?
Not sure what happened with the EoE's, but the pylons serve the same function as the crates in the Terra Volta Trial...they do nothing.

As long as no one hits hami (damage and taunt auras count) or gets too close (stay outside the circle of green mitos seems to be enough) he won't aggro on the team. This is true regardless of whether the Pylons are up or not, and I think is the safest way to handle Hami.


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Have never tried using the EoE's on the LGTF, but I do know that the order in which you take down the pylons, etc. does not matter. I've seen it done first, last, middle, etc. and nothing changes. I run the LGTF's that I lead exactly as you do.


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but I can tell you the order in which you destroy the pylons or mitos matter as much as the points do on Whose Line is it Anyway.
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Originally Posted by Draggynn View Post
but the pylons serve the same function as the crates in the Terra Volta Trial...they do nothing.
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but I do know that the order in which you take down the pylons, etc. does not matter.
And, in my experience, it does matter. Others have reported this also. (shrug) This particular issue is still open to debate.

As for the pylons affecting Hamidon's damage, no, there has never been any indication of that. It seems you got some weird bug with the inspiration simply not working.

Assuming they were both the same type. I was on one run (a Master run, yet) where the tank popped an 'EoE' and ran in to start taunting. Sadly, it was not actually an EoE. The tank had a supply of Ambrosia from the Eden trial. Oops.


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from testing, the pylons do not buff hami's stats

the pylons however, dont do absolutely nothing, they actually make the hami core untouchable until they are all taken down


 

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And, in my experience, it does matter. Others have reported this also. (shrug) This particular issue is still open to debate.
I'm curious what impact you think you have seen the pylons have?


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from testing, the pylons do not buff hami's stats

the pylons however, dont do absolutely nothing, they actually make the hami core untouchable until they are all taken down
Right. They're a step. Before you take out Hami, you have to take out Pylons and Greens (to overcome heals) and Blues and Yellows (which will eventually destroy you if you don't take them out while trying to kill Hami).

And to take out Pylons, you have to take out Rikti.

So, you peel the thing like an onion: Rikti, Pylons, Yelllows, Blues, Greens, Hami.

Or, you pull the Rikti into the goo as cover to destroy the Mitos without Mito agro and you get all the Rikit killed at the same time. Then destroy Pylons uncontested, then Hami.


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Or Wormhole the Mitos


....Seriously


 

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Originally Posted by Necrotech_Master View Post
from testing, the pylons do not buff hami's stats

the pylons however, dont do absolutely nothing, they actually make the hami core untouchable until they are all taken down
Is this a Carnie-type cheater's untouchable that allows Hami to attack you while you cannot attack him or is it a true phase where neither can attack the other?

Because if it's the later then that would be a big reason to hold off on the pylons.

But if it is the former, and the pylons aren't debuffing hami's attacks/stats, then it truely doesn't matter.


 

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I'm curious what impact you think you have seen the pylons have?
Reduced aggro radius for Hami. We had an entire thread about this and a lot of people stated they had observed this effect. Plenty also stated the opposite. Given that, at worst, it makes no difference, I always leave the pylons up while taking out the Mitos.


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Originally Posted by Golden_Avariel View Post
Is this a Carnie-type cheater's untouchable that allows Hami to attack you while you cannot attack him or is it a true phase where neither can attack the other?

Because if it's the later then that would be a big reason to hold off on the pylons.

But if it is the former, and the pylons aren't debuffing hami's attacks/stats, then it truely doesn't matter.
He can definitely still attack you with the pylons up. Just died on an LGTF to verify that fact.

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Reduced aggro radius for Hami. We had an entire thread about this and a lot of people stated they had observed this effect. Plenty also stated the opposite. Given that, at worst, it makes no difference, I always leave the pylons up while taking out the Mitos.
I always run with pylons down in which case aggro radius is closer than the greens. If it actually gets smaller than that, I'd be surprised, but it's possible.


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