Steam Jump power should be perma
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Posted on: 2011-05-19 08:15 in The Global Training Room Test Server
Agreed.
Does it have stats similar to the Good vs. Evil packs Jump Pack?
I would assume if Beast/Ninja Run are near identical that the Steam Jump/GvE Jump Pack would be too...
http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Inherent_Powers#Jump_Pack
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Without the timer and recharge delays this would make it a permanent flight power not a jump/leap one, the only other option would be to shorten the recharge and lower the duration and make it into a ground only activateable power. But then you lose the ability to double jump or use it for short flights.|
Originally Posted by Paragon Wiki
This Jump Pack grants you the ability to not only jump great distances, but also jump and gain altitude in mid air! The Jump Pack will automatically shut down after 30 seconds of continuous use.
Effects Self Toggle +Jump +Fly Special |
There are several tricks to using powers like these, for 1 they are +fly, so that increases your flying speed on characters that can, you also have the flight boost ability, fly towards the ground at 45 degrees and hold jump, these and the temp Zero G jump pack all help this way...
Additionally they seem to carry forward momentum, so if you are running fast and jump with them you seem to jump further as looks like you keep most of your forward speed.
I haven't had a chance to test it yet personally due to trying to figure out EU to NA Test/Beta and losing all my Test characters in the process.
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The Steam Pack power lasts for thirty seconds and recharges in thirty seconds.
Yeah, I could see it being a little imbalanced if they made it perma without changing the stats and stuff.
Really, why don't they just make the steam jump pack a costume part itself? That way we'd still be able to have the same effect, at least aesthetically. And since we apparently have the tech for that kind of stuff now..
Honestly, I would prefer the power simply be a much more traditional +jump power (stats up to the devs) than a version of the jump pack. I think the idea is that it will provide a bit of vertical for those using ground based travel like SS or Ninja Run, but the animation is awesome on the power and I would love to have it always available.
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Bout the same as the GvE one then...
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Originally Posted by Xzero45
The Steam Pack power lasts for thirty seconds and recharges in thirty seconds.
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And the GvE JumpPack lasts for thirty seconds and recharges in 2 min 30 seconds.|
Originally Posted by Xzero45
The Steam Pack power lasts for thirty seconds and recharges in thirty seconds.
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Otherwise all their stats are the same.
And it seems... I have to test some more... if you use both at the same time, they stack... it lasts for 60 seconds.
Stacking them does not stack jump or fly speeds, though. But it will max out jump height.
If you have both, you can go: SteamJump > GvEJump > SteamJump for a full 90 seconds of the jump boost.
Hasten alone will have SteamJump back up in 20 seconds.
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Personally, I feel they should have made that into a costume piece. That would have ended the problem right there.
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Agreed.
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
Personally, I feel they should have made that into a costume piece. That would have ended the problem right there.
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This. Right here.|
Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
Personally, I feel they should have made that into a costume piece. That would have ended the problem right there.
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Or both. Steam jump as a power. And the rocket pack it uses as a tintable persistent costume item under backpacks.
Now that we have a backslot and the geometry is already done AND the tech exists to make parts turn FX on with flight (rocket boots?), I don't see why this ISN'T a costume item.
Still buying the booster regardless. But this would sweeten the deal for me.
Is there any new items in the back slot other than capes and wings?
And it is on the (Gah... NA) test server after all, for final tweaks 
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Yes, there's a back pack, but the Steam Jump pack looks different.
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Originally Posted by Coolio
Is there any new items in the back slot other than capes and wings?
And it is on the (Gah... NA) test server after all, for final tweaks |
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Nope, not yet anyway. There's a new category called 'Back Packs', though, so hopefully the beaten brass pack won't be the only option it ever gets.|
Originally Posted by Coolio
Is there any new items in the back slot other than capes and wings?
And it is on the (Gah... NA) test server after all, for final tweaks |
Edit: Whoops, misread. That's what I get for missing my coffee this morning. Yeah, there's more than just capes and wings now, but there's only one option in the category ATM.
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The Steam Jump pack is the smaller dual canister pack seen in the first segment of the promo video. It looks really nice in terms of options for a retro rocketeer type character both at rest and while animated.
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Originally Posted by EvilGeko
Yes, there's a back pack, but the Steam Jump pack looks different.
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Well hopefully when the pack goes live or shortly after they will consider tweaking the other existing backpack type items into costume ones...
For example: (As colorable animating costume pieces like the rocket boots.)
1. Minibooster Jetpack
2. Raptor Pack
3. Zero G Pack
And other items such as the Resistance Glowing Backpiece.
It should allow for Military backpacks and so on in future...
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Don't forget the Goldbricker rocket pack! ..Even though it looks kinda goofy.
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Originally Posted by Coolio
Well hopefully when the pack goes live or shortly after they will consider tweaking the other existing backpack type items into costume ones...
For example: (As colorable animating costume pieces like the rocket boots.) 1. Minibooster Jetpack 2. Raptor Pack 3. Zero G Pack And other items such as the Resistance Glowing Backpiece. It should allow for Military backpacks and so on in future... |
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Well I did say as an example, but I'm sure the Devs will want a full list of backpack suggestions at some point if there isn't a thread for it already...
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Originally Posted by Mephistroth
Don't forget the Goldbricker rocket pack! ..Even though it looks kinda goofy.
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I could see it just having a longer duration with the current recharge time.
and I also agree that it should be available as a costume piece.
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If you had it perma, you could move at capped Fly speed with Hover, which...might be a problem? It's kinda borderline.
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Agreed. I also agree with having it as a costume piece (but I'd love to see the rocket pack as one as well).
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Originally Posted by EvilGeko
The Steampunk pack is phenomenal. However the Steam Jump power should be perma. It's ultra cool, but even with the much lower recharge it's just not as useful as it could be.
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theres a Backpack part for Vanguards also i would like to see as a option.
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It's possible to get hover close to the cap with certain builds anyway, and with the booster there can be ways to make it perma by combining it with certain powers.|
Originally Posted by Vanden
If you had it perma, you could move at capped Fly speed with Hover, which...might be a problem? It's kinda borderline.
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IMO, it's better for boosters to include travel and convenience powers. Due to Ninja Run you can skip the pool versions easily now anyway.
A game is not supposed to be some kind of... place where people enjoy themselves!
The Steampunk pack is phenomenal. However the Steam Jump power should be perma. It's ultra cool, but even with the much lower recharge it's just not as useful as it could be.
The City of Heroes Community is a special one and I will always look fondly on my times arguing, discussing and playing with you all. Thanks and thanks to the developers for a special experience.